Media Discussion of Spider Hoops
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Thanks for the clarification and validation Fan1. Mystery solved. My apologies to DOBO.
Not sure if you heard JOC this morning on 950, but he said he doesn't expect Gilly to be 100% all year. Mooney's decision to play Gilly the 2nd half of the Wyoming game on a freshly injured groin may end up haunting him, us, and Gilly all year.
It certainly doesn't look like he's healed to me.
It certainly doesn't look like he's healed to me.
I agree he didn't look right, but unless our head coach is deliberately spreading misinformation about his health, he is perfectly healthy.
Mooney has backed himself into a corner. Admitting Gilyard is injured means that Mooney has been mismanaging his health the past few games, by playing a player who was injured. He has to play Gilyard because he so deperately needs to put a "W"'s on the board to save his job. He played him in Wyoming after he shouldn't have. He played him last night after he shouldn't have, but now he has to say he is healthy, otherwise, he is playing a hurt player.
The irony of all of this is that Gilyard not himself last night was actually hurting our teams chance of winning, but Mooney is so set in his ways, he couldn't possibly see that.
I-M-UR - You hit the nail, the time to nip this injury was the Wyoming game. Mooney just chasing another bad decision as usual.
One note, the beauty of our hoops program is that Mooney just sucks the life out of us. If we had a real coach I would actually care and be worried from game to game. Just like Mooney I have lowered the bar and just react to each train wreck (game). I have not felt any actual excitement or nervousness over a college basketball game in a couple years. Its nice and it is not.
One note, the beauty of our hoops program is that Mooney just sucks the life out of us. If we had a real coach I would actually care and be worried from game to game. Just like Mooney I have lowered the bar and just react to each train wreck (game). I have not felt any actual excitement or nervousness over a college basketball game in a couple years. Its nice and it is not.
I hear you. It is sad that I really don't care if we win or lose now, because it just doesn't matter. The only excitement is watching what new and utterly stupid thing that will come forth from our program each game.
1. Lose to Hampton, Mooney unable to answer a coaching 101 question on what he would say to the fan base about the start of the season. Says he will get back to JOC with answer, doesn't.
2. Lose to Oral Roberts and we put the wrong date for the ODU game on the jumbotron up
3. Lose to ODU, feels like an ODU home game in our own arena, play a player who appears to be hurt, but issue steadfast denials that he is hurt.
Program is like an Abbott and Costello routine.
Jim Miller talking to Beck this morning:
"People were saying our OOC was too weak. That seems to be inaccurate."
Really Jim? You think it could get weaker?
"People were saying our OOC was too weak. That seems to be inaccurate."
Really Jim? You think it could get weaker?
Actually it's correct if taken in the context of it being too strong for Mooney to win. To guarantee that, we needed to play the bottom half of Division 2.
Well, Jim is near the top of the list of Mooney apologists.
I did find it funny that Bob opened the show saying (paraphrasing, and he wasn't speaking specifically about UR) "I'm not going to ever again use injuries or youth as an excuse. People are sick of hearing that. Everyone has injuries and young players."
Then at the end of the show when Beck came on Jim's segment - the first thing he brought up as the reason for UR's underperformance? Injuries. Next? Youth and inexperience.
I did find it funny that Bob opened the show saying (paraphrasing, and he wasn't speaking specifically about UR) "I'm not going to ever again use injuries or youth as an excuse. People are sick of hearing that. Everyone has injuries and young players."
Then at the end of the show when Beck came on Jim's segment - the first thing he brought up as the reason for UR's underperformance? Injuries. Next? Youth and inexperience.
Our OOC strength of schedule is 310. And I know the RPI is on its way out, but our current RPI is 332.
Well the good news is that with only 21 teams below us in the RPI, at least we haven't lost to any of them.....
OH WAIT.
OH WAIT.
Hampton is 353. We lost to them by 20 at home. We are their best win (also their only win). Hampton has lost to some crap teams too like a 1 one win Norfolk State team but had they lost to us, we would be their worst loss.
Worst RPI in the A-10, even below 0-10 LaSalle. Rock f-in bottom, my friends.
Odd because VT4700's eye test told us it was very similar to the 2014-015 OOC schedue. No need to drag up that old thread but I should have offered 10-1 odds instead of 2-1. Our schedule is/was embarassingly weak. An A10 school with our resources and history should never be that weak regardless of the circumstances imo.
Jim Miller might as well get a handle on this board with how often he reads it. He retired too soon otherwise totally see him as someone with one of those burner Twitter accounts run by their wife.
Longwood is 267. They would probably be up above 250 had they not had the win over our 332 self weighing them down.
The good thing is when we play VCU this year, as no matter what happens, their resume is taking a hit. Ha, suck it VCU. How you like those apples?
What would really be great is if you could lay the basketball budgets of each school next to the RPI ranking.
Had not read this thread when I posted on the ODU thread about Gilyard's struggles. Even my 9 year old grandson who loves basketball and plays in a youth league could see Gilyard was struggling. Asked me what I would do if I was the coach and I told him I would play someone else until Gilyard was better. Missing that layup was so uncharacteristic and passing up numerous opportunities to shoot made it obvious something was not right. He is very competitive and a great player but it doesn't help the team or him to force the action if his injury is not healed.
SC Upstate is 333. You know that are spending A TON of cash on that program.
There are only two teams below us with three D1 wins....all the others have 0, 1 or 2. That tells you how much our four wins are actually worth.
The Spiders are tournament spoilers again.
We used to be the team nobody wanted to face in the tournament.
We're now the team nobody should schedule if they want to make the tournament.
We used to be the team nobody wanted to face in the tournament.
We're now the team nobody should schedule if they want to make the tournament.
Maybe I’ve just soured to Mooney, but all I keep hearing now is the undertone of “the players let me down.” A lot of “we missed shots” and “our young guys made mistakes.”
Nothing on how ODU switched systems and switched the game, how they put worked us for boards at crucial times, and how our players looked lost when the 1-3-1 zone came out.
I think it’s OK to mention that we missed some easy shots (we did), but the tone should be more about the coach let the players down and not how the players let the coach down, regardless what Mooney thinks or is actually true. Good coaches take responsibility.
we were up with like 2:30 left, missed a layup, gave up a couple offensive rebounds that turned into a 3 point play, then missed pretty much every shot we took.
he didn't blame his players. he gave ODU a ton of credit. talked about how good they are and how good Stith is.
fact is we were in pretty good position late to win the game, despite our star PG being hobbled. but we needed to make plays and make shots. we didn't. ODU did.
he didn't blame his players. he gave ODU a ton of credit. talked about how good they are and how good Stith is.
fact is we were in pretty good position late to win the game, despite our star PG being hobbled. but we needed to make plays and make shots. we didn't. ODU did.
We are never in a "pretty good position late to win" with Mooney as the coach. Where have you been for the last five years? I never had a doubt even when we were up by eight that ODU would win. We lacked confidence and intensity, and another loss was inevitable. It permeated the air of the RC. I could feel it through my TV.
Blaming the loss on the skill set of those on the opposing team is not a very credible excuse. It lacks the requirement that coaches take responsibility for their own errors. I do not recall ever having heard such an admission by Mooney. Ever. Not once. This is a flaw in his basic coaching strategy. Another one is that he is opposed to change or trying different approaches. Combined, those flaws are fatal.
Same thing over and over again. Different players, same movie. What is the one constant here? Chris Mooney is.
Hasn't Richmond had a second half lead in 10 of the 11 games they've played this year?
You've been going to the chris mooney spin class again haven't you?
You ever meet a guy that brags about the $100k sports car he leaves in his driveway and drives once a year? Or the guy that likes to show off that he paid $200 for a golf shirt that he’ll wear once a year?
We are the definition of judging ourselves based on the investment we make not the returns we get. We feel good because we have spent a ton of money yet somehow don’t feel bad that we aren’t getting much of a return.
DT, this is a great point. And the part that really annoys people is that it seems the more we invest, the worse we do. I remember hearing how Mooney negotiated in the charter flights after 2011, ROI? The RC was beautifully renovated. Raises for assistants. Etc, Etc. New practice facility. I feel like PQ opened the check book and told Hardt: With this practice facility, in two years my boy MoonBro will be winning big. RIGHT.
Ding Ding Ding!
This is Bob Black's go-to argument every time someone says "It seems like the school only cares that Mooney graduates players."
Just Monday (after dismissing the Earl Grant question as "not serious" - rich coming from a guy still trying to sell Hampton as a good team), he addressed another texter with his standard look at all the things that are being done to put them in a position to win. "You don't build a practice facility if you don't care about winning. You don't renovate the RC if you don't want to win. They don't spend the money on expanded recruiting budget and travel....etc etc"
Spend, spend, spend. It doesn't matter if you aren't willing to do the one thing. The hard thing.
Successful investors don't throw good money after bad. They cut their losses and let their winners run.
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