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Louisville is playing 10 guys almost equal time during the easy part of the schedule. For the 1st 2 games he is averaging 19 minutes and 5.5 points per game. He is shooting 37.5% from the field and 44% from the Line.
 
it's going to work out fine for both parties. Woj brings a different dimension that I think we all see we need.
 
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Tonight, he played 14 minutes, took no shots and scored no points. IMHO, he will have a lost season, as his playing time falls even further this year.
 
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Even more telling that he would leave one program with no chance for the tournament, where he would be the featured senior and play 35 minutes a game, for a larger one with no chance for the tournament where he's a role player.
 
Telling that he would rather spend his final year playing a reduced role at a top program for a chance at the tournament instead of a featured role here, isn't it?

He would not have had a featured role here this year. Did you not see the game Jacob had last night? Who do you think is the better PG?
 
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He would not have had a featured role here this year. Did you not see the game Jacob had last night? Who do you think is the better PG?
When was Khwan ever our #1 point guard? He would have played 35 minutes a game this year, that’s the point.
 
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I'm the biggest UL fan here and it's not close. UL has less than 0 chance at the tournament. Long climb back to "top program" status but appreciate the sentiment.

KF had his reasons for leaving. Respect them but not sure why we post updates on him or others that leave the program.
I grew up in Louisville, and was a UL student in the late 70's so you might have a rival for the "biggest UL fan here" :) :).

Kentucky, Louisville, Indiana, and Notre Dame all within 75 miles. Not to mention Purdue, Indiana State, Butler, Western Ky., and all the other big time programs close by. The basketball, the coaching, and the National Championships were amazing.

I am confident that Coach Mack will have the Cardinals back in NCAA title contention soon. May not be this year, but it won't be long.
 
I grew up in Louisville, and was a UL student in the late 70's so you might have a rival for the "biggest UL fan here" :) :).

Kentucky, Louisville, Indiana, and Notre Dame all within 75 miles. Not to mention Purdue, Indiana State, Butler, Western Ky., and all the other big time programs close by. The basketball, the coaching, and the National Championships were amazing.

I am confident that Coach Mack will have the Cardinals back in NCAA title contention soon. May not be this year, but it won't be long.

Love it!!! Where did you go to school?
 
When was Khwan ever our #1 point guard? He would have played 35 minutes a game this year, that’s the point.
No way. We are way better with Wojcik playing alongside Jacob. This would be a no brainier if Khwan were still here. But, sure, it would have been nice to have him here backing them up and playing
When was Khwan ever our #1 point guard? He would have played 35 minutes a game this year, that’s the point.

Maybe you want a 6'0 off guard who cannot shoot and who allows the defense to play off of him and clog the lane to play 35 minutes for your team, but I sure don't for mine. Even though he is a senior, and Wojcik is only a freshman, we are much better with Wojcik on the floor.
 
I always wonder why he never improved left hand dribble , always like DT 1.2. maybe 3 then pcik up dribble.

other things I wonder. for quickness there are drills and to time them used to evaluate quick or slow and for how much improvement in off season. Does our muscle coach use the stopwatch for this?
 
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No way. We are way better with Wojcik playing alongside Jacob. This would be a no brainier if Khwan were still here. But, sure, it would have been nice to have him here backing them up and playing


Maybe you want a 6'0 off guard who cannot shoot and who allows the defense to play off of him and clog the lane to play 35 minutes for your team, but I sure don't for mine. Even though he is a senior, and Wojcik is only a freshman, we are much better with Wojcik on the floor.
You're insane.
 
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No way. We are way better with Wojcik playing alongside Jacob. This would be a no brainier if Khwan were still here. But, sure, it would have been nice to have him here backing them up and playing


Maybe you want a 6'0 off guard who cannot shoot and who allows the defense to play off of him and clog the lane to play 35 minutes for your team, but I sure don't for mine. Even though he is a senior, and Wojcik is only a freshman, we are much better with Wojcik on the floor.
Love Khwan, but you are spot on VT, we are much better with Wojcik playing opposite Jacob. No brainer.
 
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Love Khwan, but you are spot on VT, we are much better with Wojcik playing opposite Jacob. No brainer.
Well, we’ve already equaled our OOC win total from last year, so empirically I guess we are better without him than with him.

It’s still absurd to suggest that we would not be a better team overall with him on the roster.
 
There are some posters on here who are winning gold medals in mental gymnastics explaining how we are better without Khwan and Buck.
I think if they were both here, kwan and wojick would be coming off the bench. The big difference in the starting lineup this year is Cayo, and his athleticism and height/length.

Adding buck to this starting lineup with wojick and kwan coming off the bench for guards and Yates and eventually Sal as centers/forwards, would be an awesome squad. Just thinking about that possibility is making me mad we never got to see it...
 
Well, we’ve already equaled our OOC win total from last year, so empirically I guess we are better without him than with him.

It’s still absurd to suggest that we would not be a better team overall with him on the roster.

I will take him on the roster, playing about 12 minutes a game backing up Jacob and Wojcik.
 
There are some posters on here who are winning gold medals in mental gymnastics explaining how we are better without Khwan and Buck.

We are better without Khwan and Buck. If you still do not see this, you will see as time goes on, although I know you will never admit this.
 
I still think 4700 smells funny. So in tune with the players and details on the current players but never posted until the last year to defend Mooney. One story about Newman, but not a comment on Kenny Wood or Atkinson or Blair or anyone in between. Ok, go hit Google up and tell us another one.
 
we'd be better with Khwan as a role player coming off the bench adding to our depth..
maybe that was discussed, and maybe that's why Khwan is no longer here.
 
we'd be better with Khwan as a role player coming off the bench adding to our depth..
maybe that was discussed, and maybe that's why Khwan is no longer here.

Completely agree with you on the first part of your statement that Khwan would be better off coming in from the bench. However, realistically had he stayed, Mooney would've started Kwhan next to Gilyard instead of Wojcik.

I agree with 4700 and others to some extent who have stated that we are better off without Khwan. I agree we are better off when Khwan and Gilyard aren't on the floor at the same time for significant minutes. Both are shorter guards and both do best with the ball in their hands. If I had to choose to put the ball in Gilyard's hands or Khwan's more, it would be Gilyard. However, Khwan would have been a great asset for us this year if Mooney decided to have a lineup of best team chemistry and not a line up of the most individually talented players. That is why I am worried that next year, having a lineup of both Francis and Gilyard on the floor simultaneously (though both great individually talented players) isn't most conducive to the team chemistry even though we will have more depth of players who can contribute significantly.

Losing Buck is a big loss any way you put it. He was an all around player and gave this team a spark on both ends of the court. We are certainly not a better off team without Buck.
 
Completely agree with you on the first part of your statement that Khwan would be better off coming in from the bench. However, realistically had he stayed, Mooney would've started Kwhan next to Gilyard instead of Wojcik.

I agree with 4700 and others to some extent who have stated that we are better off without Khwan. I agree we are better off when Khwan and Gilyard aren't on the floor at the same time for significant minutes. Both are shorter guards and both do best with the ball in their hands. If I had to choose to put the ball in Gilyard's hands or Khwan's more, it would be Gilyard. However, Khwan would have been a great asset for us this year if Mooney decided to have a lineup of best team chemistry and not a line up of the most individually talented players. That is why I am worried that next year, having a lineup of both Francis and Gilyard on the floor simultaneously (though both great individually talented players) isn't most conducive to the team chemistry even though we will have more depth of players who can contribute significantly.

Losing Buck is a big loss any way you put it. He was an all around player and gave this team a spark on both ends of the court. We are certainly not a better off team without Buck.
Also look at our bench this year. JJ is again doing nothing, only to be helped out by Yates who is somehow doing less than that. And then we have, oh, that is all we had. We only played 7 players against IUPUI.
 
Don't forget Fore first committed to Tennessee, but I think got pushed out because they found a 4 year recruit they really wanted over a 1 year player in Fore. So he is easily chasing an NCAA appearance and UL and Tenn. are both better options than UR. I would watch out for UL this year. They might just sneak on the bubble. The next few games will be telling for them. They take on Tenn., Mich. St. Seton Hall, and Indiana. If they can win 2 of those games - then they got a shot. ACC play will be big for them but I would not count them out yet.
 
Hey 05. Less than zero. Good movie. Bad when discussing NCAA tournament odds.

I mean Louisville should be on probation and banned from tournament. Maybe that is coming but not aware of it. Tho Morehead State should be really worried, NCAA will make them serve the probation on behalf of Louisville.

So right now their chances are substantially higher than zero. In fact this site has Louisville at 31%. I'm not sticking up for this site but I was turned onto it this preseason and has some cool stuff like KenPom. But it's free.

http://barttorvik.com/tourneycast.php

Spiders tourney % chances are 2.1. I believe that is less than 31 but not less than zero. Need to ask Khwan.
 
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