We lost the game. The reasons don't matter, and the reasons may vary game to game, but we lost and will have a second losing season in a row...unacceptable.
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Spin as you will.
Seems to me that you didn't watch the same game as the rest of us. I suspect that you are in a business where you get paid to spin the company line. If not, you missed your calling.
That deserves its own thread! Maybe two!
Except.....it isn't true. He's fifth. He's not even first on the Spiders.
He is first in scoring in A10 games. If you weren't so quick to downgrade our players accomplishments, you would have known exactly what he meant.
Just stop. I love our players. Current and former.
If he didn't make up half the stuff he posts, I might have known what he meant.
If he didn't make up half the stuff he posts, I might have known what he meant.
I guess the A10 website is not as smart as you. It shows him as 1st in scoring in A10 play. You should contact them and let them know they made a mistake.
1. Jacob Gilyard-UR 16 103 44 35 285 17.8
2. Charlie Brown-SJU 16 98 30 58 284 17.8
3. GUDMUNDSSON, Jon Ax.-DAV 16 81 24 76 262 16.4
4. STOCKARD, Courtney-SBU 16 90 22 51 253 15.8
5. Javon Bess-SLU 16 76 33 65 250 15.6
6. GRADY, Kellan-DAV 16 89 27 42 247 15.4
7. Grant Golden-UR 16 94 7 49 244 15.3
8. D.J. Williams-GW 16 88 21 45 242 15.1
9. Obi Toppin-UD 16 98 6 39 241 15.1
10. Kyle Lofton-SBU 16 91 20 38 240 15.0
11. Pookie Powell-LAS 14 72 29 36 209 14.9
12. Nick Honor-FOR 16 83 40 31 237 14.8
13. Marcus Evans-VCU 16 72 18 71 233
14.6 KIER, Justin-Mason 16 80 16 57 233 14.6
15. Cyril Langevine-URI 16 87 0 58 232 14.5
16. JACK, Maceo-GW 16 73 38 42 226 14.1
17. Nathan Cayo-UR 16 89 1 46 225 14.1
Same website:
RK
1 C Brown Saint Joseph's 26 26 35.7 6.3-14.8 43.0 2.3-5.8 39.3 4.2-5.0 84.0 19.2
2 J Gudmunsson Davidson 29 29 36.4 5.3-11.6 45.8 1.8-5.1 34.7 4.7-5.7 81.8 17.0
3 K Grady Davidson 25 25 37.2 6.2-13.5 45.9 1.8-5.5 32.6 2.7-3.6 75.3 16.9
4 G Golden Richmond 29 29 30.1 6.5-12.5 52.2 0.5-1.5 31.8 3.3-5.0 66.0 16.8
5 J Gilyard Richmond 27 27 37.0 5.9-12.0 49.1 2.4-6.2 38.1 2.5-3.3 75.3 16.6
6 L Pipkins Massachusetts 23 22 32.2 5.1-14.8 34.6 2.0-7.0 29.0 4.3-5.3 80.5 16.6
7 P Powell La Salle 23 23 32.9 5.3-12.8 41.7 1.9-5.4 34.4 3.6-4.3 84.7 16.2
8 L Kimble Saint Joseph's 18 15 34.7 5.3-12.8 41.6 1.7-5.9 28.3 3.8-4.8 79.3 16.2
9 C Stockard St. Bonaventure 23 21 34.4 5.7-14.0 40.6 1.4-5.0 27.8 3.3-4.1 78.9 16.0
10 J Bess Saint Louis 29 29 36.4 4.8-12.1 39.5 2.0-5.8 34.9 3.9-4.9 79.7 15.6
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1 C Brown Saint Joseph's 26 26 35.7 6.3-14.8 43.0 2.3-5.8 39.3 4.2-5.0 84.0 19.2
2 J Gudmunsson Davidson 29 29 36.4 5.3-11.6 45.8 1.8-5.1 34.7 4.7-5.7 81.8 17.0
3 K Grady Davidson 25 25 37.2 6.2-13.5 45.9 1.8-5.5 32.6 2.7-3.6 75.3 16.9
4 G Golden Richmond 29 29 30.1 6.5-12.5 52.2 0.5-1.5 31.8 3.3-5.0 66.0 16.8
5 J Gilyard Richmond 27 27 37.0 5.9-12.0 49.1 2.4-6.2 38.1 2.5-3.3 75.3 16.6
6 L Pipkins Massachusetts 23 22 32.2 5.1-14.8 34.6 2.0-7.0 29.0 4.3-5.3 80.5 16.6
7 P Powell La Salle 23 23 32.9 5.3-12.8 41.7 1.9-5.4 34.4 3.6-4.3 84.7 16.2
8 L Kimble Saint Joseph's 18 15 34.7 5.3-12.8 41.6 1.7-5.9 28.3 3.8-4.8 79.3 16.2
9 C Stockard St. Bonaventure 23 21 34.4 5.7-14.0 40.6 1.4-5.0 27.8 3.3-4.1 78.9 16.0
10 J Bess Saint Louis 29 29 36.4 4.8-12.1 39.5 2.0-5.8 34.9 3.9-4.9 79.7 15.6
As Ronald Reagan would say "there you go again" Why can't you admit that Gilyard is the top scorer in A10 play. Will it kill you to say something nice about a current player or do they have to transfer first?
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Hey, just like the next fan, I applaud our players' individual accomplishments. But it's not what we're investing over $4M a year for . . . W's and postseason are the goals that matter. And there's a another side to this stat . . . not enough scoring support from rest of the team each and every game. We're lucky to have Jake who really puts this team on his back and has kept us in more games than I can count. Wish he'd get some consistent help, so he could actually get few min break during a game, other than timeouts. It's also not a good thing that he's probably #1 in country in playing time.
I’m proud of all our player’s individual accomplishments but I don’t care if we have nobody averaging double figures if we are winning games and competing for the top of the A-10 standings. I’m betting our players would agree. Just because the Sacramento Kings get a guy on the NBA all star team doesn’t mean they are a good franchise/program. Let’s not confuse individual accolades with the ultimate team goal.
BTW, Choppin. It sounds like you are very successful and a big contributor to U of R based on your signature "Just shut up, give us your money". Just wondering how much you give per year?
Sorry I guess it was just that loss to Stephen F. Austin that always leaves me laughing. Didn't know a first round exit in 3 of your last 4 appearances in the tournament was considered success....if I were a VCU fan I would certainly be expecting more...
I hadn’t seen this or the A10 scoring lists before. Two thoughts:
Gilyard and Golden are awesome. Love the confirmation.
It’s perplexing that we can have 2 of the top scorers in the league and have he record we have...
It’s not that perplexing when you look at our defensive stats.
I will give CM credit, his offense is reasonably effective. It has often been high in the offensive efficiency category. We can be inconsistent with our O but generally that hasn’t been our problem this year.
Conversely, our defense and defensive efficiency unfortunately is just really poor. This is what’s perplexing unless it’s really a function of youth/inexperience which seems likely. Some of it is scheme although the scheme has worked quite effectively in the past.
Read more slowly. I compliment players plenty.
Yes, Gilyard is the top scorer in A10 conference play. You did not specify that in your original post on the subject.
You really need to work on your reading comprehension if you think my signature says anything about my contributions. My signature is a quote of a journalist who was describing an administration's attitude towards their fans when they continue to retain a coach who year after year falls short of their stated goals.
Why do you care how much I give? To basketball? Zero. To other sports and the school? Greater than zero, and none of your business.
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C'mon man. Stop digging. We would kill for a first round exit.
Speak for yourself. If we made the tournament every year losing in the first round would not be a happy result. This just further proves what we at Richmond have known for years. VCU only gets calls in the A10 due to being the darling of the conference. Once they play bigger schools and refs that aren't paid by the conference those calls go away and you see their true mediocrity come through.
Here’s the deal Choppin. You’re constantly using big vocabulary words, making fun of people's grammar and spelling, calling people liars (you called me one multiple times this week) and I find you to be just an overall bully. It is time someone called you out.
You have a signature that insinuates that if there was a good basketball program there would be money flowing from you their way. That’s obviously not the case if you give close to nothing to the University and you don’t buy tickets. You should either eliminate your signature or change it to "Just shut up, give us other peoples money" It sounds like that would be more accurate.
BTW, you still haven't liked the comment about Gilyard leading the A10 in scoring. Is that because it is only in A10 games?
NCCA is my favorite type of basketball. I'm a loer for sure. That VCU "education" is showing through here.
it is bigger schools plural, not singular. I'm seeing now why you're a troll on an opposing board though. Ignorance is bliss
Dude, please. He called you out on a cherrypicked stat. You’ve insinuated a bunch of inane garbage about the only real fans are those who support the program in spite of mountains of evidence that we should seriously consider a change. And you do seem to have a reading comprehension problem at times.
You’ve lost your moral high ground. Dial down the bullying assertions.
I am too. I’m also 100% confident that whatever they’re practicing in practice isn’t working in actual games.
Mr. Tbone. I'm hoping your profile picture is where Mooney will be able to retire to next season
I would kill for the opportunity to test the theory that we would not be happy getting to the tournament every year.
I liked Yates' game yesterday. Obviously the 3 X 3 in the first half stopped the game from snowballing out of control. He was a pretty good pest in the second half. He's also got some football toughness in him and wasn't backing down from the rougher stuff. It was certainly his best game as a Spider, and while I didn't follow him at Yale, I'd wager it was one of the better games of his college career.
I don't understand why he didn't shoot more in the second half. He had the hot hand. I feel like he was in for most of the second half, and almost the entire "4th quarter." I'll have to watch the DVR. Maybe Rhoades told his guys at halftime to deny Yates from 3, and that freed up the rest of the squad to make that comeback. If we just weren't calling his number, that makes no sense to me.
I don't understand why he didn't shoot more in the second half. He had the hot hand. I feel like he was in for most of the second half, and almost the entire "4th quarter." I'll have to watch the DVR. Maybe Rhoades told his guys at halftime to deny Yates from 3, and that freed up the rest of the squad to make that comeback. If we just weren't calling his number, that makes no sense to me.
Sal got a nice offensive rebound and a stick back and was taken from the game for violating the no rebound rule.
As of 3 days ago we were 337 out of 351 teams on rebounding margins & 347 on total rebounds...so for the most part the rule is holding quite well. This is one of the defining characteristics of the Mooney System.
Sorry, my “perplexing” line was tongue and cheek... maybe we should have a sarcasm font?
I'm happy to explain my post.
For the first part - In the 2014 tournament VCU blew a 4 point lead to Stephen F. Austin with 3 seconds left in the game. VCU blowing that game makes me laugh very hard whenever I think of it.
The second part - The last 4 times that VCU has made the tournament they have lost in the first round. That also makes me laugh.
For the third part - If I were a VCU fan and we were making the tournament every year I would be tired of all of the first round exits in recent years, that is all.
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