Five Remaining Games, How many wins!
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Host Stony beat #14 Blue Hens today.
Host Towson beat undefeated #23 URI today.
Host UNH lost to Dartmouth today.
WM lost to host Maine today.
Host Towson beat undefeated #23 URI today.
Host UNH lost to Dartmouth today.
WM lost to host Maine today.
| TEAM | CONF | OVR |
|---|---|---|
| Villanova | 3-0 | 5-1 |
| James Madison | 3-1 | 5-1 |
| Rhode Island | 3-1 | 5-1 |
| William & Mary | 2-1 | 4-2 |
| New Hampshire | 2-1 | 3-3 |
| Elon | 2-1 | 3-3 |
| Towson | 2-1 | 3-3 |
| Delaware | 2-2 | 3-3 |
| Maine | 1-3 | 2-4 |
| Stony Brook | 1-3 | 2-5 |
| Richmond | 0-3 | 2-4 |
| Albany | 0-4 | 0-6 |
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I might say Towson. But Stony Brook just beat Delaware. Delaware is without starting QB. Rocco knows our staff and everything. New Hampshire is a nope. So I am going to say a possible two wins? Without coaching that doesn't know how to move a football. It's going to be hard to win. The season was suppose to be a playoff run. Which is definitely not happening.
covid forfeits by our northern opponents may be best hope of any wins
We all know that was the issue. In the spring we beat up on W&M and Elon (without their QB) and it was all that the higher ups needed to convince themselves that no changes were needed. Hopefully a win or two down the stretch doesn’t convince anyone that the future is bright or that we need more time.
I heard what may have just been pure speculation but was a comment that Huesman wanted to part ways with Durden but wasn’t given money to be able to hire a replacement, not sure if that’s true but given that I personally can’t see any reason why Durden is around that explainatiom is scarily plausible
I hate that it feels like we threw away a season with a great defense and a lot of parts, but let’s fix this ship and actually give ourselves a chance to win.
I heard what may have just been pure speculation but was a comment that Huesman wanted to part ways with Durden but wasn’t given money to be able to hire a replacement, not sure if that’s true but given that I personally can’t see any reason why Durden is around that explainatiom is scarily plausible
I hate that it feels like we threw away a season with a great defense and a lot of parts, but let’s fix this ship and actually give ourselves a chance to win.
Correct DT, there is a tight squeeze on athletics spending. we spent $ over the top on a scoreboard, because folks like MO,8 LEG and SATCHMO bitched SO, that they could not read it from their family room!!!
ha! I've bitched about a lot of things lately, but the old scoreboard wasn't one of them...
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Agreed. I would have done it for free and been way more creative and maybe more successful. Of course most anyone on this board could say the same thing.
After Crutcher said what he did this summer about winning championships not being important this shouldn't surprise anyone.
Joe was good at moving the team downfield & putting up points. Me thinks if he would have stayed injury free we might have beaten Tech & even 1 or 2 of the last two games. We are a totally different offense w/out him. Feel badly for the defense. They've done enough to more than give us a chance to win games.
I can't believe how far we have fallen.
so we are recruiting, and/or coaching so poorly that the loss of one player (even a good one) leads to 4 losses in a row?
We lost to Nova with Joe - he has shown flashes but the inconsistency still haunts us when it comes to getting first downs when needed. I don’t think we would have been Tech or JMU…no more injury excuses.
Regardless of recruiting and talent at other positions, losing a guy at the QB position can lead to multiple losses in a row if you have no backup that can throw the ball down the field, allowing the opposing defense to stack the line all game. Injured QBs dramatically affect a team at the NFL and BCS level, so certainly it would be expected that they would at this level. That being said, we should have a backup capable of giving us better offensive production, so if we don't, that is on the coaches.
I agree, and I would have loved to see how the VT game would have turned out had Joe stayed healthy.
I think you just made my case. Remember when Jim Reid got us to the playoffs throwing the ball no more than 8 - 10 times a game? We ran and ran and ran until they put 9 and 10 in the box and then our QB could throw a 15 to 20 yd pass that ended up being a 30 to 40 yd gain.
I think this team has plenty of talent to win. Failure to develop a QB is all coaching. Remember, this team ran the ball some before Joe went down. Clawson wins games with this group in my opinion. Both lines are decent (defensive line better than decent).
It was a different game 20 years ago. Teams ran the ball more than they threw it then. And Jim Reid got us to the playoffs only twice in his 9 seasons, so I'm not sure what your case is here. Do you think we could just run and run and run to set up the pass from the opening play now?
Are you saying we shouldn't lose four (actually 3) in a row without Joe? I don't really have an issue with losing three in a row because when you lose your starting quarterback, especially at this level, it's going to affect you dramatically. What I have an issue with is just how bad our offense looks without him. Win or lose, we should still be able to move the sticks a little and put some points on the board. So, I think we're in agreement on that. That's on the coaches. You can't make it so easy on a defense that they can just stack the box and not worry about you throwing it down field successfully. Even if we would be less successful than with Joe out there, it still has to be part of the game plan.
The problem is that our backup QB plays a much different style than our starter. So when the starter goes down, we are now unable to do most of the things the offense was designed to do. I think it’s fair to say that most teams at our level will struggle when their starting QB is out for any length of time, but most also have a backup who is capable throwing the ball 10 yards down the field. We do not. Big problem.
and the bigger problem is the staff thinks english is better and gives them more chance to win, than hardy or wickersham, the kids they brought in to take over one day.
Our starter is a 6th year senior, recruited by Rocco to play in a different system than Durden's. He is only still here because of COVID! How is it possible this staff hasn't brought in someone who can run their system as well as him in 5 years?
It’s mind-boggling, for sure. You can’t run a system that depends entirely upon your starting QB never getting hurt.
Honest question, what is our offensive "system"? Have we had one since Huesman has been here?
what is this system crap anyway? was manusco perfect no , but for those who thought we were better without him , do you still feel that way? the system should be take the players you brought in and adadpt to there strength, for russ to keep venting post game about the play calling , my god does he not see the offensive coordinator everyday,? who the hell is in charge here, call the plays himself could they score any less?
Durden and Huesman like mobile QBs who can throw when they need to. It's what Landers did at JMU when Durden was there. In retrospect, Landers was to Durden's career what Kevin Anderson was to Mooney's. Huesman's kid was very good at this at UTC, too. Mancuso less so, but capable. English and apparently everyone else, not at all so.
Let's bring back a pro-style offense with our next hire.
True. The 20 points scored in 3 games is proof pudding. I don't guess we're going to know until next year how good the young QB recruits are. The little bit of time given other than to English was not enough. English wasn't going to be able to deliver enough to beat JMU. We should have given more time to the guy who did get a few reps. He looked like there was potential.
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Agreed, I was worried about how we played in first two games. We won but was not as dominant as I would have expected.
The real problem, as I have said many times, is recruiting. For two years we had no passing game without Joe. For two years we had no running game without Joe. Don't mistake my words. I'm not suggesting that Joe is All That. What I am saying is that absent Joe, there is nothing there offensively and, now, it has come to fruition.
We have not developed a RH-recruited quarterback in the five years he's been here nor have we developed wide -receivers (our starters the last two years have come from the Transfer Portal). Where's our 225 pound running back? Is our offensive line really a strength? Is Fitzgerald (another Transfer Portal player) even still on the team.
I'm not excusing Durden, but the problem is far deeper than just him.
The life blood of any college football team is recruiting. As bad as our failings are on the field, our recruiting is ten times worse.
This is not an easy post to write, as no one, least of all me, wants to bring the players shortcomings into focus. It's truly not any current player's fault. It's our coaches' eyes for evaluating talent (and offering half million dollar scholarships to over-valued talent) that is causing the problem. Didn't one of RH quarterback-recruits just change positions this year?
POSTSCRIPT: How bad is the recruiting? Don't forget that this year's # 2 Quarterback came from the Transfer Portal, too.
We have not developed a RH-recruited quarterback in the five years he's been here nor have we developed wide -receivers (our starters the last two years have come from the Transfer Portal). Where's our 225 pound running back? Is our offensive line really a strength? Is Fitzgerald (another Transfer Portal player) even still on the team.
I'm not excusing Durden, but the problem is far deeper than just him.
The life blood of any college football team is recruiting. As bad as our failings are on the field, our recruiting is ten times worse.
This is not an easy post to write, as no one, least of all me, wants to bring the players shortcomings into focus. It's truly not any current player's fault. It's our coaches' eyes for evaluating talent (and offering half million dollar scholarships to over-valued talent) that is causing the problem. Didn't one of RH quarterback-recruits just change positions this year?
POSTSCRIPT: How bad is the recruiting? Don't forget that this year's # 2 Quarterback came from the Transfer Portal, too.
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Not to be piling on and his injury was somewhat fluky but RH has a run QB philosophy and the result this year is we lost our only real threat at QB to the run.
Very good point. If you're going to rely on a running QB system, make sure you have a couple of them who can do the same types of things, because odds are the first one will get hurt.
Agree with most of this, but I have no problem adding transfers. Transfers are huge in FCS. Keep brining in FBS wide receivers and I would sign up now for another Michael Strauss. But I agree with you that there is no excuse for not having a QB developed enough to be at least competent in 5 years. No excuse at all.
Hitting the road literally this weekend for a 425 mile bus ride to Stony Brook this weekend.On a Friday,8 hours seems about right. Déjà vu trip to Fordham in 2019.
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