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Ha! I must be off base! Stupid, you know better but do it anyway. Ignorant you are to unintelligent to know better. I grew up in the country. So puzzled to your reply post. Stupid or ignorant?
Looked at this thread thinking there was some information about Spider basketball or the A-10 policies dealing with Covid. Didn't find either....................
Cry for me Argentina.More BS from the peanut gallery.Put the unvaccinated on the streets.
Not an answer, but I would think the number would be very low, if any. These athletes are observed every day by professionals, their health impacts the livelihood of their coaches, not many responsible coaches would let any player go down very far before seeking treatment
if you're going to deny anti-vaxers hospitalizatoin, then you might as well deny smokers.
and drinkers for that matter. and people who eat too much sugar.
and drinkers for that matter. and people who eat too much sugar.
Perhaps our next health care reform will include judgement triages.
"You didn't get the COVID vaccine, ate tide pods, and still smoke. But I see that your IQ is only 70, so you don't know any better. You may see the doctor now."
I think the discussion here relates more specifically to covid cases potentially overwhelming hospitals right now all at once, hence the specificity. None of those other things are doing that at the moment,
or threatening to, like unvaccinated covid cases.
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Well this thread certainly has jumped the shark. Was so nice yesterday in the rva and today, get out and enjoy the weather and stop the spider on spider violence.
But we can make it much safer if people trust the experts. Look at Measles - something that had largely been eradicated because of vaccines (it mainly existed in Africa and Asia where vaccines less accessible). But remember also - that vaccine came out when you trusted your doctor. You went to the doctor, asked him - should I get this - they would say Yes and probably explain why and you did it. You trusted their 10 years of medical school and however many years of experience.
Now - we have a growing subset of population who questions everything and looks to the Internet and Facebook for answers. That is all well and good to do you own research, but you must understand the sources - anyone on this board could write a blog or article on the internet about anything you want. Does not mean your an expert. Just means you have a computer.
And we will get through this - either naturally or through vaccines, or likely a combination of both. The problem you have to think about - especially if you have kids or younger relatives - how do we handle the next pandemic? Because it is more probable than not we have more of these on the horizon and our response to this one I think everyone will agree has been poor at best. I think we are at over 800K deaths in US so far, likely to reach 1 million by the time this thing ends. And you will have to ask yourself - was that really necessary - to lose 1 million people?
But from a sports perspective - you have to remember the NCAA and pro leagues are business. And it is bad for business if 1 kid or athlete dies or ends up seriously injured as a result of this. Even if it is just 1 in 1,000,000 - that 1 will make headlines.
Now - we have a growing subset of population who questions everything and looks to the Internet and Facebook for answers. That is all well and good to do you own research, but you must understand the sources - anyone on this board could write a blog or article on the internet about anything you want. Does not mean your an expert. Just means you have a computer.
And we will get through this - either naturally or through vaccines, or likely a combination of both. The problem you have to think about - especially if you have kids or younger relatives - how do we handle the next pandemic? Because it is more probable than not we have more of these on the horizon and our response to this one I think everyone will agree has been poor at best. I think we are at over 800K deaths in US so far, likely to reach 1 million by the time this thing ends. And you will have to ask yourself - was that really necessary - to lose 1 million people?
But from a sports perspective - you have to remember the NCAA and pro leagues are business. And it is bad for business if 1 kid or athlete dies or ends up seriously injured as a result of this. Even if it is just 1 in 1,000,000 - that 1 will make headlines.
Don’t forget the cost of our health care system rising due to such people
Those that wish to argue that "hospitalization of the unvaccinated" is a major problem with COVID might find interest in an NPR article that includes a link to a graphic that shows up to the minute hospitalization data. https://www.npr.org/sections/health...which-hospitals-are-dangerously-full-is-yours One can hover over their region (nationwide data) to see what percentage of hospitalizations actually involve COVID cases.
In our area, data shows Hanover at 11%, Chesterfield at 10%, and Henrico at 6%. No data is shown for Richmond city. It is generally accepted that a high percentage (but not all) of the hospitalized COVID patients are unvaccinated, so, for this argument, the actual numbers will be slightly lower than those listed.
There are different methods used to count hospital bed capacity. However, the industry generally desires to operate at between 85-100 % daily bed capacity. This is done to maximize profit. This is their goal not mine.
Analysis of this real-time data in our area could make one believe that "hospitalization of the unvaccinated" isn't nearly the problem it has been made out to be.
Hospital capacity goals vs. staffing capability (personnel shortages), seems to be a much stronger data driven argument when discussing the source of significant stress upon the health and medical system.
In our area, data shows Hanover at 11%, Chesterfield at 10%, and Henrico at 6%. No data is shown for Richmond city. It is generally accepted that a high percentage (but not all) of the hospitalized COVID patients are unvaccinated, so, for this argument, the actual numbers will be slightly lower than those listed.
There are different methods used to count hospital bed capacity. However, the industry generally desires to operate at between 85-100 % daily bed capacity. This is done to maximize profit. This is their goal not mine.
Analysis of this real-time data in our area could make one believe that "hospitalization of the unvaccinated" isn't nearly the problem it has been made out to be.
Hospital capacity goals vs. staffing capability (personnel shortages), seems to be a much stronger data driven argument when discussing the source of significant stress upon the health and medical system.
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I'd venture to guess that the number of hospitalizations due to smoking, drinking, sugar and other things your doctor would advise against probably exeeds Covid cases.
the argument wasn't just against overcrowding either. it's also a matter of increasing medical insurance costs. and everyone making bad decisions contributes to that.
No argument here. Speaking only for myself at least, I was describing how I would handle things IF emergency rooms became overwhelmed. They are not right now, at least now in our area. My point simply has been that IF tons of unvaccinated COVID patients start flooding hospitals, I think hospitals have the right to deny service to some or all of them in order to keep beds open for other needs. None of the other problems cited above in this thread (heart attacks, etc) are flooding into hospitals all at once the way COVID patients are elsewhere in the country.
NCAA says no bubbles for this year’s tournaments. There’s certainly a decent chance we could be in a much better place on the other side of omicron by then, so fingers crossed.
www.ncaa.com
2022 NCAA DI men's and women's basketball tournaments to be played as scheduled
With another surge in COVID-19 cases happening this holiday season, the NCAA DI men's and women's basketball tournaments are planning to go on as scheduled this spring.
www.ncaa.com
Seems likely that Omicron will burn through everyone who isn't vaccinated, and many who are, in the next month or so, and then we should be in the clear, relatively speaking at least, for a few months and hopefully longer.
What ever happened to antibodies? After all the cancellations last year and this, seems like most college basketball players have already had covid.
Here's my issue with that. You can't bubble proof life. How many college athletes have lost their lives to Covid in the past 2 years? I can recall maybe one (Utah football player) early on. And that was before vaccines. Between vaccines and the fact that college kids are young, what is the real risk at this point to college kids. It was really low before vaccines and now maybe 1 in a million. You realize how low that is, in comparison to risks from mental health and substance abuse, all of which have been amplified due to Covid and the rampant restrictions placed on college kids lives.
And is it bad for business? I doubt if it were that bad for business all of the sports leagues would be playing at all right now. It would make for a bad media cycle for the NCAA but business would go on.
That’s what happens when the government, media and big tech continually lie to the American people. It sucks, but our “authorities” lie for political gain. Both sides. I just want to go to a damn basketball game and see a rebound!
Fine with me but obviously they arent worried about it. Id also propose all who are scared to death of this common cold to STAY THE F HOME and let the rest of the world go about living.
And do you really think this would all disappear if we were 100% vaccinated? If you say yes than I have a bridge to sell you.
no it wouldn't be gone if we were 100% vaccinated. but the hosipalization rate would no longer be an issue.
Covid isn't the common cold no matter how many times you say it is. the common cold doesn't hospitalize and kill thousands of people each day.
Covid isn't the common cold no matter how many times you say it is. the common cold doesn't hospitalize and kill thousands of people each day.
Frankly, you don't have anything to sell. And least of all is influence or medical common sense!
Ain't nobody here an expert, so I'm not listening to any of you. You all (for people in the north), ya'll (for people in the south), all ya'll (for people in the deep south), get off your pedestal. If you're worried about it, stay home.
You are so wrong. There are plenty of experts here, even if they self-identify as experts.
So you're either definitely in the tournament or going straight to the NIT, no questions asked? No speculation? No Bracketology? No Joe Lunardi?
OMG where are you getting your stats? Kills thousands of people each day?? What?
Some of you just want this shit to go on and on with no end in sight. Screw it.
