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Best shooting lineup

brooklyn brownstone

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Seeing scrimmage stats rolling in got me thinking about what is the best realistic shooting team we might see together at times this year, possibly for extended stretches? Realistic in the sense that we know that Hunt will play 30+ minutes, and that we’re not going to play AP at the 5 etc.

Can we play AP, Tanner and Roche together, or will we get smoked defensively?

I also wonder how the injury to B. Artis might affect rotations since others are getting opportunities right now.
 
we're not going to get much perimeter shooting from the 5 spot, but really I think everyone else on the roster is likely an above average 3 point shooter other than Robinson who does other things.
 
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Can we play AP, Tanner and Roche together, or will we get smoked defensively?
I doubt it. And I think it is kind of good message board thought exercise but the question about them playing defense resonates with me. We won the league last year because (in large part) we played good defense. Good shooting will come and go but defense is usually more consistent quantity.

I know Roche is not locking anyone down, I haven't seen AP and Tanner yet but some observations had Tanner getting worked a bit on the defensive end. So, the thought of rolling all of them out there together as a unit, does not really appeal to me.
 
FWIW, Hunt probably isn't in our best possible shooting lineup. He's a career 32.5% shooter from deep and has never really shot the three at a high volume. This lineup probably isn't going to see much time, but it's likely our best possible shooting lineup that is somewhat realistic:

B. Artis, GW3, Roche, AP, Walz

Don't forget Dusan is a career 37.7% shooter from deep, but one of Walz or Beagle will probably always be on the court unless we're in deep foul trouble. Like SMan said, we've got shooters everywhere.
 
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One other note I'm hoping for is that maybe Roche sees a little less attention as "designated bench shooter" from opposing defenses this season and therefore gets some better looks. I do feel like his usage in the past was so one-dimensional that it led to teams keying on him from the moment he stepped onto the court. But if we have shooters on the wings all over the court, and maybe an even better shooter in AP, that Roche doesn't draw that attention. I'd love it if he can break out and shoot a high %. In warmups watching him shoot his shot looks great and the (seemingly) low arc we comment upon in games is not readily evident, the same arc in warmups looks pretty good. This is assuming he gets steady minutes of course - lot of competition out there.
 
FWIW, Hunt probably isn't in our best possible shooting lineup. He's a career 32.5% shooter from deep and has never really shot the three at a high volume.
interesting. looking at Hunt's stats he shot very well from 3 last year (38.6%) on his lowest volume. so it would seem when he's 3rd or 4th option in scoring, he takes good open shots and hits them.

agree with Brooklyn too. our current roster should suit Roche well. he should see clean looks. but then again ... do we really need him on the floor if so many others can shoot well too? guess it depends on if he's shooting 40% or not. he'll need to start the season hot to keep a role, I think.
 
interesting. looking at Hunt's stats he shot very well from 3 last year (38.6%) on his lowest volume. so it would seem when he's 3rd or 4th option in scoring, he takes good open shots and hits them.

agree with Brooklyn too. our current roster should suit Roche well. he should see clean looks. but then again ... do we really need him on the floor if so many others can shoot well too? guess it depends on if he's shooting 40% or not. he'll need to start the season hot to keep a role, I think.
I don't know about current roster suiting Roche well. It seems he has 2 players in Tanner and AP who also play the same position as him, who are also really good shooters, but (and I have not seen this with my own eyes yet to confirm) but probably bring other things to the game than Roche lacks.

Roche has been pretty much a 1 trick pony on offense (3 ball or nothing) and on defense he is certainly a scrapper but often tough for him to guard other big, faster, stronger A-10 players who play the same position.
 
FWIW, Hunt probably isn't in our best possible shooting lineup. He's a career 32.5% shooter from deep and has never really shot the three at a high volume. This lineup probably isn't going to see much time, but it's likely our best possible shooting lineup that is somewhat realistic:

B. Artis, GW3, Roche, AP, Walz

Don't forget Dusan is a career 37.7% shooter from deep, but one of Walz or Beagle will probably always be on the court unless we're in deep foul trouble. Like SMan said, we've got shooters everywhere.
I am going to assume the 2 scrimmages combined is the 3 point % for each…
So
AP 90%
Tanner 54.5%
Hunt 50%
Dusan 50%
GW 37.5%
Roche 33.3%
Tyne 30%
Graham took 3 and missed
Walz & Beagle took 1 each and missed

So I expect this to be the season average ;)
 
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