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Aleem Ford - 2016 Offer

More suitors from lower level conferences joining the party.

 
Aleem just picked up an offer from Saint Louis.

http://hoopseen.com/index.php/news/headlines/item/4185-aleem-ford-s-development-continues .....While he has not taken an official visit thus far, there are two schools that stand a good shot at landing the first chance to bring the IMG senior to campus. “Rutgers and Richmond are two schools that I might want to visit at the end of the season,” Ford told HoopSeen.

Both Rutgers and St Louis fired their coaches so it would seem to me that they might both now be out of the picture. Inasmuch as they were the only two teams recruiting Aleem at our level, would it not be logical to think that we might stand a better than 50% chance with this young man?
 
yeah we better hurry up to beat out Hofstra, Wofford and Quinnipiac.:eek:
if Coach decides Aleem is the guy I'll love him. but this looks like a case where we're his best offer.
he's 6'5" - 6'6" and 180. he looks like he needs a little time. nothing wrong with that, but I'm looking for a guy who can give us time at big forward this fall. Ford's appears to be a SF that can get stronger. in time.
 
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yeah we better hurry up to beat out Hofstra, Wofford and Quinnipiac.:eek:
if Coach decides Aleem is the guy I'll love him. but this looks like a case where we're his best offer.
he's 6'5" - 6'6" and 180. he looks like he needs a little time. nothing wrong with that, but I'm looking for a guy who can give us time at big forward this fall. Ford's appears to be a SF that can get stronger. in time.
Aleem is 6'7". OSC
 
We have 2 scholarship to fill (assuming no transfers). Right now, the only 2 guys we really seem to be active with our Ford and Wesson. I know we will probably be active in the transfer market (but these players have to sit out a year), but are there any other high school recruits that we are really active with at present.

We could easily lose out on both of these guys, just wanted to see if we were fishing in any other waters.
 
FWIW, Verbal Commits rates Aleem a 3 star. Same as Monte and Nick and better than Grant and Andre at 2.5.

Definitely not getting as much attention as Andre though.
 
FWIW, Verbal Commits rates Aleem a 3 star. Same as Monte and Nick and better than Grant and Andre at 2.5.

Definitely not getting as much attention as Andre though.
SF, maybe Andre is garnering more apparent attention because of his father's and brother's reputations. OSC
 
maybe, but Xavier and Butler are there too. I'm confident he's very good, those schools mean more than the # or stars on verbalcommits.
 
Really like Aleem; he could fill out and be a really good player:

 
The more I read about Aleem, the more I like, good student and a post grad (additional year of maturity). I understand we are still in with him, so Aleem pull the trigger become a Spider.
 
If we can't get Wesson, I guess Ford would do. I am not that excited about him at this point, though. Seems like these are the last two HS recruits we have a chance at, though, before we dip back into Dominaus/Singleton/Diekvoss/Smithen territory.
 
Beat Joe Mihalic and Dave Paulsen for a kid that's 6-7 and I'll be reasonably satisfied.
 
Honestly, from my research Aleem may be a better player than Wesson. OSC
 
If we can't get Wesson, I guess Ford would do. I am not that excited about him at this point, though. Seems like these are the last two HS recruits we have a chance at, though, before we dip back into Dominaus/Singleton/Diekvoss/Smithen territory.

Yep, this is my fear. We lose out on these two guys and then hit the panic button and go to the bargain bin to fill out a couple scholarships. I hope Mooney is feeling some intense pressure to not go to that route again and perhaps even prohibited from doing so. Any player that has only 1 or 2 low mid major offers really should be off limits for us signing.
 
I don't think it would be a panic button, but a question of who's still available that we can get. and that guy's likely not the same level as Wesson or Ford. so yeah, we really, really want to land Ford next week.
 
Yep, this is my fear. We lose out on these two guys and then hit the panic button and go to the bargain bin to fill out a couple scholarships. I hope Mooney is feeling some intense pressure to not go to that route again and perhaps even prohibited from doing so. Any player that has only 1 or 2 low mid major offers really should be off limits for us signing.
So here's a really interesting philosophical question: If we end up having up to 3 scholarships open because we don't land any of these high-radar guys, do we leave them open? That's a lot of scholarship depth not to have in a given year but if you want to put some lipstick on the pig, it allows us to:

1) Focus energy/coaching on guys who absolutely must play but aren't known contributors (specifically MW, PF, GG)
2) Jumpstart recruiting for 2017 where more runway might land us better recruits
3) Balance classes a bit better perhaps, although that's presuming we redistribute with some transfers
 
Kind of parallel to the discussion going on right now in the Recruitment thread, but I'd be ok with leaving one open this year. As mentioned, as it stands right now we have no open scholarships for 2018, but have several offers out including one to Bryce Golden. So I'm fine with pushing a scholarship back to balance things better into 2017 and 2018. That said, have to assume there will be some attrition that would open up spots anyway, but still...

I wouldn't want to leave more than one open this year.
 
If we leave 3 scholarships open that is just an abject failure in my book. We knew we had 5 open scholarships for a whole year and weren't able to fill them (and I'm sure Kovien leaving took no one by surprise). Why would 2017 be any different? Again, filling out the roster with appropriate players is a basic job requirement in my book. Using only 75% of our roster slots is unacceptable.
 
I don't think it's acceptable to leave any of these open, but if we have to, it can be no more than one. There are going to be 800 transfers this year. I refuse to believe that we couldn't get at least 2 of them to come here. I would rather have two guys sitting out next year than leave two spots open.
 
I don't think it's acceptable to leave any of these open, but if we have to, it can be no more than one. There are going to be 800 transfers this year. I refuse to believe that we couldn't get at least 2 of them to come here. I would rather have two guys sitting out next year than leave two spots open.
What if the two guys coming in are of the Diekvoss mold? Would you still bring them in? I think that's more of what I was getting at as a "philosophical" question.
 
What if the two guys coming in are of the Diekvoss mold? Would you still bring them in? I think that's more of what I was getting at as a "philosophical" question.

Bringing in two more Diekvosses is unacceptable too and shouldn't even be an option. If Mooney does that or leaves those two spots open, he should be docked a year's salary.
 
Bringing in two more Diekvosses is unacceptable too and shouldn't even be an option. If Mooney does that or leaves those two spots open, he should be docked a year's salary.
agreed, but trying to gauge what people think if we don't end up with guys we really want.
 
I'm really not worried that we'll leave 3 or even 2 spots open. won't happen.
 
Let's get Aleem and call it a great class. OSC
 
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Bringing in two more Diekvosses is unacceptable too and shouldn't even be an option. If Mooney does that or leaves those two spots open, he should be docked a year's salary.
That 1.3 million should be distributed equally among the 2105-2016 season ticket holders. :)
 
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I'm really not worried that we'll leave 3 or even 2 spots open. won't happen.
You have a higher confidence interval than I do that we're going to get 2 quality guys for the 3 open spots. I hope you're right!
 
You have a higher confidence interval than I do that we're going to get 2 quality guys for the 3 open spots. I hope you're right!

He didn't say they would be quality, just that they would be filled. Mooney made be a bad recruiter, but he is not an idiot, and he won't leave two slots open. I'm not sure how Mooney shows his face around other coaches if he leaves 2 scholarships just open. This isn't football, you only have to get 13 players, Now, whether they are filled with quality recruits or someone like KD, that is the great question at this point.
 
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I guess this is my question though, is that how we are doing things? Just filling spots with guys who are unlikely to ever really be competitive for us? Wouldn't we be better off leaving a spot open for next year and instead of recruiting over a guy (which btw, we don't really do) and instead go after someone for 2017 who we give a crap about?
 
I guess this is my question though, is that how we are doing things? Just filling spots with guys who are unlikely to ever really be competitive for us? Wouldn't we be better off leaving a spot open for next year and instead of recruiting over a guy (which btw, we don't really do) and instead go after someone for 2017 who we give a crap about?
IMHO, yes. OSC
 
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