Mhmm this is quite interesting. The thought process of Goose actually losing minutes instead of gaining minutes doesn’t make a lot of sense. He pretty much missed the first half of last season with the hip recovery, but when he got back, his time not only gradually went back to what he got in the past, but increased to more minutes than he used to get. That wouldn’t be able to be said for a lot of people. So with there being obvious trust in him there, I think a detrimental regression would be necessary for him to not play at least the same amount of minutes, which doesn’t seem likely.
Logical, but we also have two new guys who can play one of his positions better than anyone from last year's team could, so that changes things (or could). The versions of Sherod and Wilson we had last year were not going to supplant Goose for very many minutes per game. Roche and Bigelow (depending how we use him) might. Goose still will play a fair amount, but I don't think he's going to be guaranteed 30 minutes a game or anything like that.
I see what you’re saying. I agree about Roche because I haven’t seen him play enough and not exactly sure what his role will be/can be. I am hoping Dji takes that next step to where he forces Mooney to put him on the floor. Just a little hesitant considering his lack of playing time in the first half of last year, when Goose was still hurt, and Wilson was getting the minutes and few games where Dji played 10+
“Also Dji couldn't beat out Wilson, so not really sure about that comparison. I hope Dji has taken a leap but I'll need to see it.”
Not so much driving me crazy. I was just wondering why you wouldn't say who the other "1s' were. Since Jason and Dji are young, inexperienced, and battling at PG, that could be another reason why they are out there together right now....to give them as much time as possible since the other guys we have talked about have played a lot of college minutes so far. And, the fact that it is a lot of 4 on 4 sounds like they are just getting work in. I could be wrong, but my thinking is we just got to August and have a long way to go before we assume a couple guys are starting because they are "with the 1s".
But, Wilson started 15 games with Jacob last year, and played big minutes in most of those. Doesn't that mean he beat out Dji? I don't want to turn this into a get on Dji topic. That's not my point at all here. I have said numerous times he is talented. I think Jason is talented too, but I don't want him out there at non PG. I think Randolph, Dread, and Noyes are talented, and am excited about their futures, but I don't expect big minutes from them this year either. So, it's not about Dji with me. It is who is in front of him. I just don't expect to see Dji much at non PG. If he proves me wrong, great, that means he has taken his game to another level, and I will be thrilled if that is the case. I am always pulling for Dji, and want nothing but success for him.
Exactly…and I’m not going to give all the info I know out in regards to VTs inquiries. I def know a lot more as do all the parents bc they are our kids. I’m just not going to give you everything sorry. And I know…VT you’re never wrong, you have your beliefs and you’re not changing them…cool. Don’t presume info about “4”s just being a wrkout group either or “1”s. Anytime I give a tidbit of info some like to justify/change it to fit their narrative. Hey none of us know what is going happen except the staff the players. I’m just giving a little insight bc what was happening on court during wrkouts wasn’t matching up with what was being predicted here. That’s all and I’m cool with that and we could all be wrong. 🕷️🏀
“so I can't see a guy who has never made a 3 beating out a guy who made 110 last year.”
You don't need to throw the "you're never wrong" sarcasm in there. Let's not get ugly here. We all have opinions and I have admitted when I was wrong.
I know basketball is about more than 3s. It is also about fit. You have to have the right fit out there. I just happen to think we have better fits at non PG than you do. All good. Just our opinions. And, what could possibly hurt my feelings? If Dji has a great year, you really think my feelings would be hurt? I would be the first one congratulating you, and yes, if it is at non PG I will admit I was wrong.
So, you're not going to give us everything? Hey, that's cool. I can wait. I would rather see stuff with coaches comments and more exact info anyway. All of this picking and choosing your little tidbits to share, act like you know more but aren't telling, and then probably laugh while a lengthy back and forth thread goes on? No thanks. I can wait. Anyway, let's try to keep this cool here. You have said many times you are cool with certain opinions and even some criticism. We can disagree, and thats fine, but we should all be free to give our opinions without having to worry about upsetting anyone, right?
Wilson started 15 games with Jacob, and played 352 minutes those games. Dji got time in 12 of those games and got 107 minutes.
You’re right but don’t assume that I’m sitting back laughing and no I’m not upset.
Can I ask why you downplay the 3 ball so much? I know there is more to the game than that, but I have talked to many parents and AAU coaches of kids who play college ball (and higher), and none have downplayed the 3 like you do. They all talk about it, about how important it is, about how their kid is doing working on it, about how college coaches expect that from guards, etc. I'm not saying 3 pointers are everything, but don't you think they are important?
the 3 is important. ideally everyone shoots it well. but not everyone has to shoot it as long as you bring other things to the table. you should know this being big Goose supporter. in his best year of his 4 years he hit 16. if you shoot under 33%, you really shouldn't be shooting them much.
Sure…I’m not down on it as those who think Curry has ruined the game. But I don’t believe you have to be a Curry/shoot it like him to be able to play the game. Do you need to be respectable…absolutely. For me, maybe I’m old school but I’m about defense first and playmaking & making your teammates better. Has the game changed…yeah. If we were take a look how many guys have a sustained career being just a 3 guy…idk. But I would guess those that can do more have longer careers. Kids today want to be like Steph but he is more than a 3 guy and I think a lot of kids miss that.
I hear you, and you say I'm a stats guy, but the 3 is so much more than stats to me. Making 3s just opens the game up for everyone, and makes everyone else better.
lol. I hope Bigelow is a monster for us! I also hope the next 20 seconds of clips show him in good defensive position because I get (unneccessarily) worried easily!
I def agree with that. I think we may see it from different angles with same result. 🤷🏼♂️
Agree, but to me it is different with guards. Nate's job was getting the ball low and beating his guy one on one. He got better and better at that each year. Last year, going into the year, my main concern was our 3 ball. Well, we struggled from 3 and only went 10-8 IC as a result. We won the A-10 tourney, but our poor 3 point shooting affected our offense and cost us many games. I think we are staring at 10-8 or even worse again if we don't improve our 3 point volume and percentage from last year.
I think this season you will see that Dji will be one of the best if not the best defender on team. He’s at least as good as Goose to me. Just needs the opportunity which I believe he will have.
Kick ass!
I believe in what Dji brings to the table.
