97spiderfan said:

Have bettors not seen us play yet?

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No, and neither have we…

Any thoughts on health of Walz or White?

And I do feel like we are forcing outside shots. As in all outside shooters are still in motion when they shoot.
Hoping that changes sometime.

SFspidur said:

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There is obviously a W&M person there to steal the trophy. How else does one account for the yellow and green vehicle parked beside the trophy. Theft is the #1 (only?) means of W&M getting the coveted trophy.

Parsons made its bones by admitting anyone who applied, early in the Vietnam War era when a student deferment kept you out of the draft. When that went away, so did Parsons.

MDspider8 said:

Looks like our PR department is already in mid-season form - this is from the digital program for tonight's game.

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The photo might be worse. He looks like a headmaster at an all-male prep boarding school but is actually a child predator in disguise.

Catching up on Gilly's performance from last night and he seems to have found his assist machine form from last season...13 dimes to go along with 7 points and no turnovers in a win over Windy City.

Look for London to reach into his bags of tricks. He loves the gadget plays.

72Spider said:

Was there at '81 game, too. Redden rushed for 280 yards. He was the offense.

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I was there as well. Tear a way jerseys were the thing in those days and Redden went through a box of them that day.

spiderman said:

agreed. I think the schedule (if intentionally weak) reflects the thinking that it might take some time, but we could be strong by January. we'll struggle through it early but beat bad teams. it's not about being battle tested as much as finding the "flow".

nobody expected this team to shoot 26% from 3 though.

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It's all relative. Everybody else gets stronger too. Mooney changes nothing so other teams will be prepared. It's going to be a rough ride.

Regarding the Spider shooting woes, sounds like a baseball analogy. We have a bunch of “5 o’clock hitters”. They can rip it in the batting cage in pregame. But at 7:00 when lights come and it’s game time - no good. Hope I am wrong and team starts improving on these horrid shooting percentages

MDspider8 said:

Looks like our PR department is already in mid-season form - this is from the digital program for tonight's game.

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I don't know about you guys but that fired me all the way up, I'm ready to run through two brick walls now 😤

SFspidur said:

Thanks, totally missed that LSU played last night.

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yeah - I watched the 2nd half - they are going need to be better for sure against 5-0 Pitt on Sat at the Greenbrier. I can't quite figure out their PG Sears .. a scorer but seems out of control at times.

spider23 said:

Crazily enough the dumb money crowd is following me and the line is up to RIchmond -8.5. May have to come back in on other side now

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Have bettors not seen us play yet?

Yeah, we're not last.

SFspidur said:

We also closed with UMass in a Black Friday game back in 2001 after the original September 15 date was postponed following 9/11. Hadn't remembered that.

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Thanks for picking me up. I didn’t see it when I looked, or remember it.

Go Spiders!

spider23 said:

Richmond -5 (What could go wrong)?

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Crazily enough the dumb money crowd is following me and the line is up to RIchmond -8.5. May have to come back in on other side now

We also closed with UMass in a Black Friday game back in 2001 after the original September 15 date was postponed following 9/11. Hadn't remembered that.

Collegian article about the '67 game against Parsons. The school had lost its accreditation the year before and closed a few years later.

I only recall, because I was kind of wondering if they tried to avoid those types of scenarios - but if a guy played at Duke or Kentucky that would be too hard.

Yes, both competitive as hell. Curtis was a little more soft spoken, but super competitor and clutch. I remember Kenny would come take over the carpet gym and halve half the gym hating him .

Thanks, totally missed that LSU played last night.

Was there at '81 game, too. Redden rushed for 280 yards. He was the offense.

LSU looked rough against Charleston Southern for most of the game and was down by 5 at half-time but ended up winning by 9. Charleston Southern looked much better than a team that hasn't won a D1 game yet ..

Dji had a quiet 1st half but ended up 5/6 for FG with 11 points and 3 rebounds. Pretty sure all of made shots were drives to the basket.

Gallipoli said:

I will miss the W&M end of season game. When was the last time it was not played at the end?

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Ha! I can't believe this question got my curiosity up, but I do enjoy Spiders football trivia.

It's happened three times since my first games in the late 1950s. In 1967 the season ended in embarrassing defeat to a little know college in Iowa named Parsons. The Spiders lost 23-0 after defeating the Indians 16-7 the week before. Frank Jones was in his 2nd season of turning the program around. Team finished 5-5.

In 1981 the Spiders finished with Penn. I attended this game and anyone who was there probably remember it was a showcase for RB Barry Redden, who I believe rushed for over 200 yards in the game. The Spiders got a tough 18-12 win after losing to the Indians 35-21 the week before. This was Dal Shealy's 2nd season. The team finished 4-7.

In 1995 the Spiders finished with Villanova. The Wildcats pasted the Spiders 28-0 after losing to the Indians the week before 27-7. The losses spoiled the ending of Coach Jim Reid's 1st season which finished 7-3-1.

If our future games with the Indians aren't at the end of the season I'll be disappointed, but if the Tribe doesn't follow us to the Patriot League they sure will make the non conference season much more interesting.

Go Spiders!

gcarter52 said:

He plays for Youngstown State.

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Well, he'll probably be at Wright State next year. He seems to be on the play 1 year somewhere and transfer cycle

8legs1dream said:

imagine the publicity and national media attention that would come our way if we made that move.

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Yep, pretty sure we wouldn't be getting shut out on the ESPN Friday night showcases if we made that move. Obviously, that won't happen for many reasons not the least of which is we are incredibly bad at creating publicity and media attention.