97spiderfan said:

Highly doubt we are playing some 3 dimensional chess game with the NET here. Much more likely we just screwed the pooch on the schedule, didn't get into a quality MTE in time, had to settle for some garbage tournament at the last minute, a couple of our better games backed out and we didn't have any contigency plans for when that happened.

Poor planning and poor execution by those in charge of making the schedule. Let's just call a spade a spade.

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What piece was UR 's own Joe LUNARDI in our next dimensional chess game...Pawn?

imo that's all another reason to go after the real hard schedules. If you are only trying for minimal hard games (and we've never done two road buy games vs. majors in a season so unfortunately I don't think we're trying for those) when u fail too much u end up with bad schedules. If u consistently trying for hard, national schedule when u fail too much u end up with a least solid schedules imo. And again those years when it's too hard...so what...it's still good for the program visibility etc etc. We won't and don't get at large consideration with weak ooc schedules. The evidence is we get in or would have gotten in with hard schedules with lots of majors (wherever u get them). Majors can play chess, they have the league schedule to fall back on, at UR let's play checkers keep it simple u can't game the NET at A10 level the A10 isn't good enough. Cue the just win more strategy. I'm all for it. waiting 20 years and counting.

**I have this in cut & paste mode now and I just change up a few words here & there

really the intentional "schedule softly" u understand a bit for those coaches that are under pressure to win. doesn't apply to Mooney. he has the best job secrity in the country at one of the top basketball programs in the nation.

fan2011 said:

We saw last year that transfers can come in and immediately perform at an all A10 level. Will be interesting to see if Mooney can keep that up, his system had a reputation on this board for taking years to learn in the past.

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I think that reputation was because of the defense we used to employ. It was unique and took time to learn. I think we scrapped that defense a few years back after getting torched on it and we now employ more traditional defensive sets.

I think Dusan's offensive game will translate. Ivy is a good league. he's a scorer with enough size.
no idea what he brings defensively though. that's a question all the newcomers have to answer.
we were unusually strong defensively last year. it's why we won. but many of our best defender have moved on.

SFspidur said:

Looks like it's gonna be VCU, but gotta wait 90 minutes for it to be official.

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The big twist…
He is reclassifying to this season and choosing…

Mount Olive!

Dusan is a wild card - as Philly alluded we have quite a few wild cards for upcoming year. On one hand he had big games against both Duke and SLU. On other hand a little more pedestrian vs top IVY's Princeton and Yale averaging 13.

Looks like it's gonna be VCU, but gotta wait 90 minutes for it to be official.

8legs1dream said:

well thank goodness we were able to hold Auburn to their agreement, imagine this schedule replacing them with Middle Backwoods A&M Community College

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Well, it is on!

Vegas is way off the mark on this one:

We are not as good as we think and Wofford is far better than we think.This is going to be a tight one.

O/44.4

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97spiderfan said:

Highly doubt we are playing some 3 dimensional chess game with the NET here. Much more likely we just screwed the pooch on the schedule, didn't get into a quality MTE in time, had to settle for some garbage tournament at the last minute, a couple of our better games backed out and we didn't have any contigency plans for when that happened.

Poor planning and poor execution by those in charge of making the schedule. Let's just call a spade a spade.

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well thank goodness we were able to hold Auburn to their agreement, imagine this schedule replacing them with Middle Backwoods A&M Community College

97spiderfan said:

Highly doubt we are playing some 3 dimensional chess game with the NET here. Much more likely we just screwed the pooch on the schedule, didn't get into a quality MTE in time, had to settle for some garbage tournament at the last minute, a couple of our better games backed out and we didn't have any contigency plans for when that happened.

Poor planning and poor execution by those in charge of making the schedule. Let's just call a spade a spade.

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probably right. but it does seem like a lot of teams are avoiding playing teams in the 100s and even 200s. the math seems to tell teams to 1) play the top 100 types and 2) fill in the rest with sure wins from the 300 types.

we just skipped the 1st part.

whampas said:

Or worse, lose 5 or 6 OCC games and watch this board go up in smoke. Lol.

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I’m looking more at 27-6 on Selection Sunday and seventh team out…

spiderman said:

agreed, but I don't think it was this soft intentionally. need to do better.
but maybe analytics based on NET says this is the way to go. I don't know.

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Highly doubt we are playing some 3 dimensional chess game with the NET here. Much more likely we just screwed the pooch on the schedule, didn't get into a quality MTE in time, had to settle for some garbage tournament at the last minute, a couple of our better games backed out and we didn't have any contigency plans for when that happened.

Poor planning and poor execution by those in charge of making the schedule. Let's just call a spade a spade.

agreed, but I don't think it was this soft intentionally. need to do better.
but maybe analytics based on NET says this is the way to go. I don't know.

spiderman said:

we're not going to lose 5 or 6 with this OOC schedule.
if we do then we were right to schedule softly, because we're not as good as we thought.

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Well, that all feeds back to the mentality. We need to go with the mentality and schedule with the mentality that we are going to be good every year. Mooney and PQ have shown that they can compete and get players in the portal. No reason not to have expectations. Absolutely no reason to think about "schedule softly".

we're not going to lose 5 or 6 with this OOC schedule.
if we do then we were right to schedule softly, because we're not as good as we thought.

PASpider said:

This sucks. Sh!t schedule full of weak teams nobody wants to see. We could finish with 23 wins and miss the NIT.

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Or worse, lose 5 or 6 OCC games and watch this board go up in smoke. Lol.

SFspidur said:

Barksdale has a final three of Butler, Miami, and VCU.

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Today at 1:30

This sucks. Sh!t schedule full of weak teams nobody wants to see. We could finish with 23 wins and miss the NIT.

Well he apparently did a great job making the UConn teammates better!

Bob Black talked to AP. He talks a bit about his time at UConn, how he ended up at UR, how Soulis has helped him settle in, and briefly describes his game and focus: shooter, winning mentality, making teammates better.

urmite said:

I can’t remember what we decided about more than one from a conference. Does Maui have 2 Big 12?

Or is that wrong because teams changing conferences? I wonder if they will make exceptions with so many changes?


I have so many questions…

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Yeah, it's technically still in effect, and it was one of the gripes the NCAA had with Players Era claiming it was two separate MTEs at the same location, allowing them to have two from the Big Ten.

But yeah, Colorado changing conferences is what allowed them to have two from the Big 12. They make exceptions for that.

Anyway, Tarleton is now off the board with the Baha Mar Nassau Championship field firming up. It's only 6 teams instead of 8, so I do wonder if our MTE may go the same route as options dwindle.

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One way to think about how margin of victory (MOV) impacts NET is that the NET has an assumption about what the MOV of a game SHOULD be based on the current NET ratings of the two teams involved and the location. NET expects the #161 team to be significantly better than the #353 team, and so the MOV should generally be smaller against #161 than #353. If you end up performing better than the expected MOV your NET will improve, if you perform worse your NET will go down. If you perform at expectations NET will pat itself on the back and say I have you ranked perfectly already!

fan2011 said:

Sorting into quadrants is just to make resumes easier for the committee to digest and compare, and isn’t directly used in NET calculations. Beating the #161 team by 18 points will have a much bigger impact on your net than beating the #353 team by 20.

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Very true. Problem is human eyes will see a difference. Oh, Team A has one more quadrant 1 win than Team B. The reality could be that the difference between the team they beat could be as little as one position.

There is also a big difference between beating a team in the same quadrant that is 70 spots higher in the rank. Human eyes may not notice.