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Will Wade and LSU

keep in mind, one and done was not a ncaa rule, it was a nba rule. we are talking a small % of total scholarship athletes so no money or if money, has to go in a trust until their class graduates whether they do or not.
 
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FYI - LSU and Joe Alleva are reportedly working on an agreement for the AD to step down. He has plenty of enemies in Baton Rouge. And remember - he was the Duke AD who presided over the lacrosse fiasco. He doesn't provide leadership - he takes orders from his superiors. Maybe he didn't please all those superiors this time around. And he did botch hiring Jimbo Fisher twice.
 
No, because I’m not privy to those conversations. But do you disagree that a coach can have a conflict of interest with what’s best for a player?

Take for example Khwan Fore. I’m sure Mooney would never have told him it could be good for him to move on to Louisville. He should have the right to have someone who is in the industry, to be able to give him advice that is him centric. Maybe if he did, the agent tells him he’s better off professionally to stay at Richmond.

To me, the point isn’t whether coaches have given advice correctly to players or not. It’s that they clearly have conflicting factors in what is best for them personally, their team, and the player personally. I would hope that most of the time everyone would align, but the players should have he right to have someone who is in the industry that is 100% in their corner. They don’t have to all hire agents, but they should have the ability to.

I can't say never with about 350 schools out there, but very rarely will a coach make a decision that is bad for the player. You could not even find a good example of one. Fore? That's your example? We have no idea if this was a good decision, and we don't know what Mooney said, so how can you even bring him up? How could an agent possibly know what would have been best for him? Would the agent have talked to Chris Mack and been able to know a certain amount of playing time? That will never happen. Seriously, what good could an agent have possibly done here? I would 100% trust a coach over an agent if still in school.
 
What a shock. NCAA allows yet another one...

I think this is more LSU allowing one right now, and maybe waiting for the NCAA to decide something. If LSU fires him now, they still might have to pay him, but if the NCAA, which is still investigating this, has enough damaging info, LSU will have an easier time firing with cause. I know I would not want this clown anywhere near my program, but I guess I am not slimy LSU and I am not in the slimy SEC.
 
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I can't say never with about 350 schools out there, but very rarely will a coach make a decision that is bad for the player. You could not even find a good example of one. Fore? That's your example? We have no idea if this was a good decision, and we don't know what Mooney said, so how can you even bring him up? How could an agent possibly know what would have been best for him? Would the agent have talked to Chris Mack and been able to know a certain amount of playing time? That will never happen. Seriously, what good could an agent have possibly done here? I would 100% trust a coach over an agent if still in school.
What year did you flunk out?
 
And now ... Billy Liucci from College Station has reported that Scott Woodward will take the LSU AD job. That's right - 30 minutes after the press release on Alleva, Scott Woodward is reportedly leaving Texas A&M to enter the cesspool in his hometown University.
 
And now ... Billy Liucci from College Station has reported that Scott Woodward will take the LSU AD job. That's right - 30 minutes after the press release on Alleva, Scott Woodward is reportedly leaving Texas A&M to enter the cesspool in his hometown University.
Dude's about to clean out the cesspool. I'm sure he's not going to stand for any crap and that his direction is to get it done. First step in getting the funk off the program.

His first act should and likely will be sending Frank packing back to D2. Scumbag. So glad he didn't torpedo our program. It would only have been a matter of time.
 
Dude's about to clean out the cesspool. I'm sure he's not going to stand for any crap and that his direction is to get it done. First step in getting the funk off the program.

His first act should and likely will be sending Frank packing back to D2. Scumbag. So glad he didn't torpedo our program. It would only have been a matter of time.
So getting rid of the guy who actually suspended Wade against the wishes of LSU fans is going to clean up that cesspool???. They’re just looking for a guy who’s better at covering up their cesspool.
 
ironic that we are burying a program and dept because their first priority is winning while we bury our own for not caring.
 
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ironic that we are burying a program and dept because their first priority is winning while we bury our own for not caring.
Very true. Put I don't think any of us want us handing bags of money to potential recruits. That is clearly illegal. Now, can we get a coach who is a much better recruiter than Mooney, who also doesn't cheat. Yes, I think most D-1 coaches fit that bill. There are probably a handful of Will Wades out there though that we should obviously steer clear of.
 
Paying the players would take all of the fun out of college basketball/would make it less competitive, similar to the NBA. No defense, half ass effort, no hussle, no team.
 
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to me their priority is winning and that cheating makes that possible. typically, the school is not paying the players, the boosters are and the school does not want to know about it. think the fbi is after the shoe companies not the coaches but the ncaa wants the coaches and the schools, unless the school is off limits like unc.
 
So getting rid of the guy who actually suspended Wade against the wishes of LSU fans is going to clean up that cesspool???. They’re just looking for a guy who’s better at covering up their cesspool.
Not likely. What makes you believe this? Dude is nothing but a clean upstanding guy. I know it's fun to say stuff like this and bash on the SEC (which does have it's cast of bad characters), but it has to have a modicum of truth to be believable and I have no reason to believe that this guy ever has or ever will do something shady. Frankie is not going to like what's about to happen and he's going to hate working under this guy for as long as he can hang on by his fingernails. Of this I'm sure.
 
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excellent article this morning on yahoo sports concerning the firing of bryce drew at vandy.
 
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Bryce Drew. Sure sounds like the AD had his mind made up the day he got there. 0-19 is bad, but if you don't go to the games or talk to the coach, you are already ready to make a change. I'm not a fan of an AD acting that way. Support your coach while he is there. At least talk to him a few times.
 
buy low, the article seems to indicate that schools are lining up for him though he can be picky with his buyout. stackhouse better be good or the AD won't be there long either.
 
I'd be surprised if he gets a better job than Vandy right away. Tough sell coming off 0-19 an a 40-59 record/getting fired.
 
He was called lazy for hiring the same coach he already hired once, which you already knew.
 
I think he hired a very good coach. I'm not casting judgment on the choice one way or another, just explaining why some called it a lazy choice.
 
Dude's about to clean out the cesspool. I'm sure he's not going to stand for any crap and that his direction is to get it done. First step in getting the funk off the program.

His first act should and likely will be sending Frank packing back to D2. Scumbag. So glad he didn't torpedo our program. It would only have been a matter of time.
Wade did all the same things at VCU. No cares to look.
 
I think he hired a very good coach. I'm not casting judgment on the choice one way or another, just explaining why some called it a lazy choice.


Maybe, I don't know about the process. From some of the things I have heard it was not "oh he's great, would you like the job, yes" easy.
 
most things on here are speculation or anonymous sources but we treat them like they are actually what took place. sound familiar?
 
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I'm not suggesting it does or doesn't. Just explaining why some may perceive it that way.
 
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You really have to think you are bulletproof to pay ELEVEN guys and think that it's going to stay quiet. Last I checked, only five guys can play at a time, so what happens when the 11th guy you paid is getting 5 minutes a game, gets pissed, transfers and some of his boys or his family or maybe even the player himself decides it's time to make a mess on the way out the door. There's basically a 1000% guarantee Wade was doing this stuff at VCU. You don't just NEVER do it in your life and then step into LSU and start paying every single player brazenly.
 
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You really have to think you are bulletproof to pay ELEVEN guys and think that it's going to stay quiet. Last I checked, only five guys can play at a time, so what happens when the 11th guy you paid is getting 5 minutes a game, gets pissed, transfers and some of his boys or his family or maybe even the player himself decides it's time to make a mess on the way out the door. There's basically a 1000% guarantee Wade was doing this stuff at VCU. You don't just NEVER do it in your life and then step into LSU and start paying every single player brazenly.
How in the hell does Will Wade still have a job? I mean he was caught red handed over a year ago and now he is caught again. And yes, of course he was doing this at VCU.
 
How in the hell does Will Wade still have a job? I mean he was caught red handed over a year ago and now he is caught again. And yes, of course he was doing this at VCU.
All I can figure is that it's LSU, and Orgeron probably has been doing worse (if you believe what's been coming out about that program lately).
 
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