Will Wade and LSU
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Probably should be fired - but lets not forget, it just came out that Zion Williamson received money at Duke- so you think Coach K is going to get fired?
I operate under the impression that most top 100 recruits get some sort of illegal benefits. And if your top 50 - your likely able to demand some high level cash payments depending on the school you pick. So really doesn't bother me that he paid players as I am sure most of the SEC has at least 1-2 guys on each team who has received something.
I operate under the impression that most top 100 recruits get some sort of illegal benefits. And if your top 50 - your likely able to demand some high level cash payments depending on the school you pick. So really doesn't bother me that he paid players as I am sure most of the SEC has at least 1-2 guys on each team who has received something.
Yep Trap, pretty soon you are going to have to wipe out the entire p6 coaches and AD's and start over. More likely they will break from NCAA. Wade just seems slimy.
As much of this board bitches about UNC's academic scandal, you are right, Coach K has so many of these situations that it is crazy. I recall articles about recruits parents that moved to Durham for jobs they were not qualified for, but again very easy for these coaches to circumvent the system unless someone records them.
As much of this board bitches about UNC's academic scandal, you are right, Coach K has so many of these situations that it is crazy. I recall articles about recruits parents that moved to Durham for jobs they were not qualified for, but again very easy for these coaches to circumvent the system unless someone records them.
a lot goes on, usually coaches or assistants or boosters.
but UNC's was institutional. that shouldn't happen. and it should have been severely punished.
but UNC's was institutional. that shouldn't happen. and it should have been severely punished.
I actually think less of the academic scandal because as much as some think these kids are student-athletes, especially at a place like UNC - they really are not. They are minor league athletes. So if the school wants to give them fake grades - so be it. I rather they get fake classes and grades than just handfuls of cash and cars - if I had to pick my evil.
I'm on the total other side. I think it's a huge deal and an embarrassment for a well thought of University. non-athletes were also in the fake classes. and that somehow was the loophole to avoid punishment.
one school can't decide on their own that kids don't need to take classes. they cheated. got caught, and it went unpunished. I personally think it much worse to have the institution cheat than to have a dirty coach make payments.
one school can't decide on their own that kids don't need to take classes. they cheated. got caught, and it went unpunished. I personally think it much worse to have the institution cheat than to have a dirty coach make payments.
I've said this before on this board, but I am friends with a guy who was a recruiter for a top ACC football program. They wanted Percy Harvin bad, but lost him to Florida in part because some boosters bought Harvin's mom a house down there, among other things. The SEC is an animal unto itself.
I agree it would be bad if it were non-athletes, but we are talking athletes. Most of which will - at big schools will go to either play in a minor league system, pro league, or even go overseas. And if that doesn't work - they will look to do something in their sport - coach, assistants, video coordinators, strength coach - etc.
at UNC the fake classes had non-athletes as well. and that's somehow why they didn't get in trouble.
Maybe that's Willy Wade's rabbit in the hat. When NCAA shows up, for every strong ass offer to Javonte Smart, he is able to show a strong ass offer to Joe Smith in the chess club.
Since the benefit of the classes was not exclusively available to athletes, it was determined to be an academic issue and not an NCAA issue. UNC was heavily sanctioned by the accreditation board for those classes, one step away from having their accreditation removed.
I wouldn't consider a meaningless one-year probation "heavily sanctioned." There were zero repercussions for UNC other than having to make a show of instituting reforms to keep it from happening again.
Lots of SEC friends from various schools - all say if you ain't cheating, you ain't competing.
There were no consequences on the athletic side, that is true and there should have been consequences for the NCAA. However, the only more sever punishment the accreditation board can give out besides probation is a loss of accreditation, which means a loss of all federal funds. This would have been devastating to all the students at UNC, and would be an entirely disproportionate punishment. While it does feel like UNC should be punished for cheating, there is no way to *academically* punish an institution besides removing accreditation or putting it in probation. Putting schools in probation is extremely rare, and the consequences of violating probation and losing accreditation are extreme. Maybe 'heavily sanctioned' is the wrong phrase to describe probation, but it is a serious and dangerous position for a university to be in.
I think the NCAA should be able to punish schools whose athletes disproportionately benefit from fraudulent academics. The NCAA is made up of member schools, and I think a lot of them are afraid of the consequences of allowing that though.
Do you think losing accreditation would have been a reasonable punishment? What else could the accreditation board do that would be reasonable? The NCAA needs to change its bylaws to allow for athletic punishments in situations like this.
This is false. The NCAA should have stripped UNC of 5 biology professors and 15 biology department scholarships. That would have learned 'em.
I think the whole accreditation business is largely a joke. The only thing they could really do is pull it, which is the nuclear option. Other than that it’s all hot air.
Sure, I wish the NCAA could have done something (not that they would have anyway), but the problem was much bigger than that...3000 students over nearly two decades. There’s simply no accountability.
