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So the roster is:

Quinn
Walz
Bigs
Noyes
Roche
Bailey
Tanner

King
Smith
Hunt
Tyne

Graham
Southall
Weaver

Am I missing anyone?
 
I have it on good authority that we have landed Thomas "Snacks" Lee from Jackson State. Truly a position less player. Mostly likely help out Bigs inside.
One of the best videos ever. The announcer laughing the whole time made it that much better. Time to watch that again.
 
I have it on good authority that we have landed Thomas "Snacks" Lee from Jackson State. Truly a position less player. Mostly likely help out Bigs inside.
That's strange. Because the name I heard from an insider was Nelson. I asked if they meant Nelson transfer out. They said no, Grant Nelson in...

That was a surprise move...
 
Since Harris fits a similar style, I'd assume DeMarr Langford is no longer an option for us. Still nothing substantial from him in the last month or so.
 
Tough offseason. If Spider23 wasn’t such an easy grader I’d be afraid to look at it. Must be disheartening for Moon. Odom at vcu had like 4 dudes left & lost their top 7 players and look at them now. No bump from ncaa, feels similar to a decade + ago but worse.
 
we better shoot 42% from 3 for the season.
last year's numbers for our returning players and incoming transfers:

3PT 3PTA %
jordan king
69​
219​
31.5%​
jason roche
52​
135​
38.5%​
tyler harris
39​
133​
29.3%​
isaiah bigelow
30​
113​
26.5%​
delonnie hunt
31​
108​
28.7%​
djimon bailey
6​
15​
40.0%​
neal quinn
2​
11​
18.2%​
aidan noyes
4​
7​
57.1%​
michael walz
0​
0​
0.0%​
total
233​
741​
31.4%​
 
last year's numbers for our returning players and incoming transfers:

3PT 3PTA %
jordan king
69​
219​
31.5%​
jason roche
52​
135​
38.5%​
tyler harris
39​
133​
29.3%​
isaiah bigelow
30​
113​
26.5%​
delonnie hunt
31​
108​
28.7%​
djimon bailey
6​
15​
40.0%​
neal quinn
2​
11​
18.2%​
aidan noyes
4​
7​
57.1%​
michael walz
0​
0​
0.0%​
total
233​
741​
31.4%​
Terrible roster construction for the type of offense we run. Our whole offense is centered around finding open players and having them knock down jumpers.
 
We went from being a huge team last year to a tiny one this year overall. Then again, we didn't exactly light the world on fire last year, so maybe this is a better approach.
 
Terrible roster construction for the type of offense we run. Our whole offense is centered around finding open players and having them knock down jumpers.

Yep quite an interesting strategy for our style of play overall. And our best shooter may not be ready for season or just wouldn’t play a lot if he was.
 
we better shoot 42% from 3 for the season.
The only non-freshmen players who I think we can reasonably expect to be above average 3pt shooters are Roche and King, maybe Noyes. We don't have a lot of 3pt threats, and will probably be a sub par 3pt team especially if we take as many attempts as we did last year.
 
we shot poorly in 2021-22 and had a good year. it's possible.
but it's a big concern not knowing Roche's story.

our offense puts our big guy at the top of the key a ton. Mooney has rarely had the right kind of big guy who's a threat there (Geriot, TJ ... maybe Grace but we played him at the 4 a lot).
 
a player like Harris was important. we needed another big forward. pretty comfortable saying Bigelow is the starter, but Harris and Noyes can battle for time behind him as well as possibly play with him.

still surprised we're going in with just Quinn and Walz at the 5. makes no sense to me to carry only 12 on schoarship when we could at least add a big body for practice and emergencies on a one year term. might not be many available, I guess.

no interest in Gus Larson? we liked him out of HS. don't know about his health. had a season ending injury.
 
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a player like Harris was important. we needed another big forward. pretty comfortable saying Bigelow is the starter, but Harris and Noyes can battle for time behind him as well as possibly play with him.

still surprised we're going in with just Quinn and Walz at the 5. makes no sense to me to carry only 12 on schoarship when we could at least add a big body for practice and emergencies on a one year term. might not be many available, I guess.

no interest in Gus Larson? we liked him out of HS. don't know about his health. had a season ending injury.
Harris bio at Western Carolina lists him as a guard/forward. Watching highlights he plays more like a bigger guard than a guy who is gonna bang down low where Bigelow plays. He only averaged 2.5 board per game. He is tall and if that is the definition for a "big forward", I would tend to disagree.

To me, it looks like all of our legit big forwards prospects we were after didn't want to come here and play under Mooney so we go this guy as a last minute consolation to on paper add some size to our roster.
 
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Yes, it is odd that with the way we let our big man handle the ball, shoot from outside, and play the game, that Mooney still is not able to land guys. Really thought losing Reed he should have been able to land a "4" man but it did not pan out at all. Seems between misplaying the Burton hand and NIL he was shut out, we were hardly mentioned with anyone. I don't necessarily agree with sman that we need a third center - but we definitely could have used a player or two at the big forward. Bigelow seemed more guard oriented at Wofford, so hopefully Harris can transition and do some work inside.
 
I say "big forward" now to avoid the "power foward" argument.
Harris certainly isn't a power forward. we do play 2 forwards and one is typically bigger as he may have to defend a 4.
right now Bigelow and Harris are the closest we have to guys who can defend a 4, though both are prototypical SFs.
Noyes is long enough if he's added strength, but he's really a 3 as well.
Tanner is a 2/3, but we certainly have enough guys at the 2 so I consider him a 3.

all 3 will have trouble with a Brandon Johns type forward, giving up at least an inch and probably 40 lbs.

note: I didn't need a third 5 ... if the forward we added was big enough to defend a 5 in a pinch. think Moliva, Giddings, Harper, DWilliams, TAllen, JMA.
Harris isn't big enough to do that.
 
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a player like Harris was important. we needed another big forward. pretty comfortable saying Bigelow is the starter, but Harris and Noyes can battle for time behind him as well as possibly play with him.

still surprised we're going in with just Quinn and Walz at the 5. makes no sense to me to carry only 12 on schoarship when we could at least add a big body for practice and emergencies on a one year term. might not be many available, I guess.

no interest in Gus Larson? we liked him out of HS. don't know about his health. had a season ending injury.
It's got to make sense to the player, too.. If you were a transfer, would you want to come here to be a depth piece who might only play if Quinn or Walz gets hurt? It would be like a QB transferring to be a 3rd string QB.
 
I say "big forward" now to avoid the "power foward" argument.
Harris certainly isn't a power forward. we do play 2 forwards and one is typically bigger as he may have to defend a 4.
right now Bigelow and Harris are the closest we have to guys who can defend a 4, though both are prototypical SFs.
Noyes is long enough if he's added strength, but he's really a 3 as well.
Tanner is a 2/3, but we certainly have enough guys at the 2 so I consider him a 3.

all 3 will have trouble with a Brandon Johns type forward, giving up at least an inch and probably 40 lbs.

note: I didn't need a third 5 ... if the forward we added was big enough to defend a 5 in a pinch. think Moliva, Giddings, Harper, DWilliams, TAllen, JMA.
Harris isn't big enough to do that.
You are worrying about something that doesn't happen. When is the last time we needed a 3rd 5 to guard a 5? And, with most teams playing 3 and 4 guards now, and most forwards playing on the wing, I don't think it is nearly as important as it used to be to have a bunch of bigger forwards.
 
It's got to make sense to the player, too.. If you were a transfer, would you want to come here to be a depth piece who might only play if Quinn or Walz gets hurt? It would be like a QB transferring to be a 3rd string QB.
agreed, it always has to make sense to the player. and I doubt we'd get a guy to beat out Quinn.

but I don't think a transfer would be afraid of Walz at this point. if he is, then there's really nowhere he can transfer to. I think there are big men who'd transfer here to compete with Walz to play 10-15 mpg behind Quinn.
 
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You are worrying about something that doesn't happen.
well, it obviously does happen. we were without Grace for the Wichita St, Syracuse and Temple games last year. decided to play small when Quinn was out instead of leaning on Walz. lost 2 of 3 but we didn't play too bad.
 
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well, it obviously does happen. we were without Grace for the Wichita St, Syracuse and Temple games last year. decided to play small when Quinn was out instead of leaning on Walz. lost 2 of 3 but we didn't play too bad.

Quinn seemed to kind of flirt with injury all season. If he were to go down for several weeks (or MORE) we would be in all sorts of trouble.
 
Terrible roster construction for the type of offense we run. Our whole offense is centered around finding open players and having them knock down jumpers.
May force Mooney to alter his offense and come up with a whole ‘nother way of play to fit the team makeup.

Oh never mind. That’s the thing that dreams are made of.
 
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May force Mooney to alter his offense and come up with a whole ‘nother way of play to fit the team makeup.

Oh never mind. That’s the thing that dreams are made of.
You are correct, Mooney doesn't have the competency nor the desire to "come up with a whole ‘nother way of play to fit the team makeup."
 
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