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I appreciate your optimism Coach. Off the top of my head, I think we have 1 win in the A-10 tournament since the great 2011 season. I believe we beat Fordham a few years ago before getting drilled by VCU. Otherwise we have loses to LaSalle, Charlotte (The multiple technical game at the end), and a couple of loses to VCU.
Pretty sure we beat Duquesne in there somewhere. Only reason I have hope to reach semifinals is Coachfezz thinks it. I'll be there if we reach semis.
2012: Lost to Lasalle in the first round 80-72
2013: Lost to Charlotte in the first round 68-63
2014: Beat Duquesne 76-64 (Good call here 23), then lost to VCU 71-53
2015: Lost to VCU 70-67
Substitute Duquesne for Fordham in my prior post as our lone A-10 tournament win over the last 4 years.
The most depressing part of this "Brooklyn walk down memory lane" is that Charlotte was only the 3rd most upsetting result.
Not as long as you know who is our coach. We are 1 and done this year and I don't even need to think hard about that.
The probability of this happening is essentially 0, but if Mooney somehow manages to get this team to the NCAAs would people on the board still think he should be fired? What if he makes the sweet 16 again, or the final four, or wins the championship?
If this team wins the national championship, I will be there to personally dip Mooney in bronze so that his statute in front of the Robins Center is accurate to a T.
I can't tell if you mean you would still want to get rid of him (by dipping him in bronze) or not...
Winning against VCU in the A10 tournament last year would have likely earned us an at large, and could have bumped them out of the NCAAs. Very disappointing loss there.
That is all anyone wants. Take us to the NCAAs. As you said the chance of that is about zero. Hence time for a change.
I feel comfortable in stating that most of whom expressing their frustration on this board with the basketball program do not necessarily want Mooney fired. I think most of us just want a change that will bring about a much better result in terms of wins and losses, and would be very happy and content with Mooney as the coach bringing about these results.
Were Mooney to make the Sweet 16, or do even better, that change would have obviously have already occurred (Q.E.D.). The answer to your questions lies within the question itself.
“Sometimes the questions are complicated and the answers are simple.” – Dr. Seuss
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May be missing the obvious - Mooney has demonstrated that he does not have the coaching skill to turn things around. If he did, it would have already happened! The proof is in his 12- year record.
Time has proven conclusively that what Mooney does have the ability to do is to win 50 some % of his games and finish in the middle of the pack. If another Kevin Anderson comes to town some would proclaim that Mooney was "much improved." Sorry, but it is just not the case.
Love your optimism, & it is to be admired. What gets me in your post is the "next year thing". How many next years do we need to have? Isn't that what we said last year & the year before.
Just curious - what makes you think that CM & staff are going to "dig deep and learn a tremendous amount in the off season?" What we've seen for the most part in his 10 or so years is a coach that is dug in and hunkered down to his system with only the slightest of willingness to show flexibility, adaptability, or change.
I hope you are right because in spite of many us being critical of CM, we all want him to succeed. We all recognize that the odds of him being replaced are probably slim. There are 2 avenues for success to occur - 1) He'll need a step up in recruiting, and I do believe the incoming class certainly looks good on paper and in videos or 2) He'll need to adapt and try new things. The same old same old is just not working.
Guy, nice post. Am sure that Coach realizes change is needed and he will do so. OSC
He should have realized this a LONG time ago. It's been 11 years, what makes you think that he will change?!?!
If the season ended today, we'd get Duquesne in the 8/9 game. I don't think I need to tell you who the winner gets.
Mine is a realism as is being expressed by many many others. Many would agree that ulla's overly optomistic view at this point is contrived and cant possibly be genuine.
There are extremes on both ends of the argument, both are insulting. The "sky is falling" statements can be too fatalistic and condemning, and the "Baghdad Bob" routine really grates on me. If we look out the window, the tanks are really in the streets.
fatherspider, appreciate your opinion. However, I would like to point out that my views of the Spider basketball team and their losses this season, and for that matter previous seasons, are perhaps not so different from yours and others. Am I disappointed? Of course, I am. Holy Smoke! I spend 6-7 hours driving to and from Ellicott City, MD and overnight at the Marriott to attend every home game. Are changes needed? Clearly, that goes without saying. I just don't see what good it does to criticize, nay condemn, our team in a public forum. Our players and coaches deserve our support as I am certain they all want to win more than any of us. Change will occur one way or another. Administrators are taking note. However I will support my team both in the best or worst of times and leave administrative decisions in the hands of others far more knowledgable than I. OSC
You are definitely harsher on most of this season than I am. But I agree the "we would lose 100-0 to six year olds" immediately followed by "we have an 80% chance of a national championship this year" get old fast.
With all due respect, I think fatherspider adds a lot to our discussion.
Negativism or reality? Sometimes the reality is negative and it needs be recognized and expressed as such, especially on a board with so much unjustified optimism.
I think fatherspider has more candid and realistic posts on this board than most, and I appreciate his direct and candid posts knowing that they will be criticized by the moderator and many of the other pollyannas on this board.
If his posts are largely considered negative, so what? Most of what he says is dead on. One should be able to see past the mode of expression and, like myself, believe him to be a dedicated spider supporter and meaningful contributor to this board. A little more tolerance for his point of view and the manner in which he expresses it should be welcomed on this board.
I certainly find it easier to read and accept his so called negative criticism (perceived by some to be "attacks") than the "contrived optimism" and the blind, rosey-colored views of many. I also think that dressing him down for what he has said is more of an "attack" than anything he has said.
I have the opposite opinion of that. I think we would have an 80% chance of beating the 6 year olds, and a 100% chance of not winning the National Championship this year.
I am absolutely disappointed in the season -- but we are 14-12, not 0-26. there are some positives going on at present just not enough. The post I referred to was a direct attack. Good for you coming to the defense of father, I agree he is passionate and I believe supportive. But like above I get tired of both extremes. Sorry you think I am not fair to posters, each to their own opinion.
Who are these "rose colored glasses fans" that keep getting referenced. I know Ulla is a pretty positive one, but he and many others who I suspect are being lumped into this category have generally expressed a sound awareness of our shortcomings. I think they're just not bombastic about it.
I appreciate your passion for the team and since i have only been associated w spider sports for five years I can not claim to have your years of experience but I am making up for time lost.
Its the blanket assertions like your posts in this thread that make it hard for you to be taken seriously sometimes.
But there are two sides to every coin and you are certainly the flip side of my coin.
TA always shows up. but he's a medium sized inside player. his perimeter shooting never really got where it needs to be. and he gets a lot of attention inside. the right play is kicking it out when doubled, so don't expect his numbers to be huge.
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