Title IX applies to NIL Payments

[SpiderTrap]

In news the other day, Dept. of Education said Title IX applies to NIL Payments. Not sure how they expect that to work - but personally, this makes it even more of a mess and in my opinion, makes no sense to me. I am not against women sports and women athletes making money, but this to me seems like Dept. of Education trying to achieve an equality of outcome for women in a space where this is a more of business decision.

I would expect this to get appealed in some manner, and lots of schools to fight this. But I just don't see how this works. Not to mention - there are instances, where women can and should be able to make more in this space. Such as the LSU gymnast and basketball twins, etc. Now - we all know they make more for different reasons, but wouldn't this limit their ability to cash in as well and say they must be equal to the 12th man on the men's lacross team?

 

[Eight Legger]

Feels like this is:
a) a dumb decision;
b) a decision that will help us and help the landscape in general from getting too one-sided; and
c) a decision that is likely to be changed in some way before long.

 

[GKiller]

& in 3 days the DOE will say disregard our last memo

 

[SpiderTrap]

& in 3 days the DOE will say disregard our last memo

Thats true too. Trump takes office - DOE might not exist anymore.

If the women fill the stadium, sells tons of tickets and merchandise, and have marketability - they should be able to make whatever the market is willing to pay them. But to say - the women's lacrosse player at Gerogia and QB at Georgia have to make the same is ridiculous.

Thats like saying all CEO's need to be paid the same. So the CEO of WalMart should make the same as the CEO of a family run local business.

 

[fan2011]

I assume this only applies to payments made directly by schools themselves?

 

[97spiderfan]

Said a couple years ago NIL was going to run a foul with Title IX and it has. This will be settled in the courts. Not wading into the merits of this, but clearly someone should have considered these implications before unleashing NIL on college sports.

 

[spiderman]

I assume this only applies to payments made directly by schools themselves?

no, they're saying even NIL payments that come from 3rd parties have to be equally distributed. lol.

 

[fan2011]

no, they're saying even NIL payments that come from 3rd parties have to be equally distributed. lol.

How could that possibly be enforced?

 

[spiderman]

How could that possibly be enforced?

no idea but that's the plan if Trumps new DOE (or lack of DOE) doesn't overturn this.
to paraphrase ... title IX is not based on market value. even if the market discriminates, the schools cannot.

based on this line of thinking, I guess WNBA player DO deserve as much as NBA players, lol.

 

[fan2011]

I guess one potential way around that is to make the athletes employees instead of students?

 

[spiderman]

I guess one potential way around that is to make the athletes employees instead of students?

I don't think that would help. any educational institution that receives federal funds has to provide equal treatment of female and male students. federal funds = student loan program.

 

[fan2011]

I don't think that would help. any educational institution that receives federal funds has to provide equal treatment of female and male students. federal funds = student loan program.

That is why you make the athletes employees instead of students.

 

[urmite]

That is why you make the athletes employees instead of students.

And not students at all?

 

[fan2011]

And not students at all?

yeah

 

[MrTbone]

I think right now you have to still be a student to play, right?

It’s crazy that I even have to ask this.

 

[RichmondNative]

I think right now you have to still be a student to play, right?

It’s crazy that I even have to ask this.

Yes emphasis on right now.

I agree with Mooney’s view on this one topic. Asked about the 5 years of eligibility, Mooney said it was rather arbitrary and mused whether the number of years would be 6, 7, or 8. It is hyperbole, but close to the truth. Why don’t colleges just sponsor teams?