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St. Bonaventure 2/4
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Who were they scouting? Because I learned here that it can't possibly be Tyler.
Like 19, last night was my first in person experience at the Robins Center this year. Couple of questions:
- Does the pep band, Sticky Situation, no longer appear at games this season? If so, why?
- Found the public address system in the arena muffled and difficult to understand. Perhaps my seats as have no hearing difficulties. Do others have the same perception of the audio system?
OK, see I lied in the first sentence as that 3 not 2 questions. Thanks in advance for feedback.
- Does the pep band, Sticky Situation, no longer appear at games this season? If so, why?
- Found the public address system in the arena muffled and difficult to understand. Perhaps my seats as have no hearing difficulties. Do others have the same perception of the audio system?
OK, see I lied in the first sentence as that 3 not 2 questions. Thanks in advance for feedback.
Pep Band has been there off and on......haven't paid much attention. The students in the past two games have been great so haven't missed the band. Public audio has been fine; the young woman talking on court is tough to understand behind a mask and talks at fast pace.
I think that was our most complete game of the season. More of these please!
“…also #1 Welch on Bona is a punk. He got in a few players faces tonight and our bench let him have it after that Tyler 3. Suck on that L tough guy…”
said exactly the same to family watching with friends.Epitome of a punk.
Actually it wasn't. We need more than 2 people scoring in double figures. If the other team shuts down Tyler, we lose.
Yes. I think this was our first complete 40 minute performance all year, sucks that it took 23 games to play one of those. This team clearly has loads of talent, if they can pull it all together like they did Friday, we might go on a nice run here. I am reserving judgment on that based on any previous expectations not being met by this team, but lets hope we got a run in us here.
Two things, I know, Tyler is out of his funk and that is a really good sign. Goose in the starting line-up is an upgrade. Gilly offense remains frustratingly inconsistent though.
Agree.
Great game & win. In my opinion also the first 50 50 game we won this season, and it took until February. Maybe one exception is Toledo, but that's debatable. All the rest we loss starting with OOC Utah St & on & on. Throw conference games of Davidson & VCU into that mix. That is why our only path is A10 tourney champions.
This season lined up perfectly with skills and schedule, but we didn't take advantage.
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Excellent point on the 50-50 game and this being the first time we won one of those. Pretty much every other W on our schedule is a team that we are simply better than. So, this makes us 2-7 (Bonnie and Toledo) against teams with good talent and profile, with a bad loss to St. Joes thrown in there as well.
We have a bunch of opportunities coming up to even that out, @VCU, SLU, Dayton, @St. Bonnie. We pretty much have to get all of them to put ourselves in a position to be talked about come March. And obviously, we can't lose to the Mason's, LaSalle, GW of the world either. Tall task for sure.
what exactly made that our first complete 40 minute performance ... besides Tyler playing like he did?
if Tyler had a more normal game, we're in a dogfight and we probably lose.
Tyler's play really skews our perception of our entire team. he's scores 36 and our team is great. he shoots 1-12 and our whole team sucks.
I honestly think if we benched Tyler (or he took less shots in favor of cayo or GG) in the vcu or Davison’s games we probably would’ve won either or both of them. Thus I think it’s hard to make your last point about us sucking with him shooting 1-12.
Very true. I did think our momentum-intensity was solid the entire 40 minutes. We didn't come out flat and didn't go through a huge lull at any point during the game was my observation. Bonnie has a couple little runs but felt we were in control the entire game.
Yes, Tyler played out of his mind, but it also offset a pretty poor performance by Gilly. Tyler doesn't need to carry us every game like he did (although if he does, I'm not going to complain) but he also can't be playing like he did the 4 or 5 games prior.
If Tyler just played his average game against VCU, we probably win that game pretty easily. It's not all on Tyler obviously, other players also need to step up, but when your leading scorer, scores 5 points and can't hit the broad side of a barn during a game against a quality squad, it makes it really tough.
Correct. Tyler should have been benched during the VCU game in my opinion. Pretty clear is just wasn't clicking for him. I thought there were times during the Bonnie game where Gilly should have also seen some time on the pine, because his play was similarly poor. As we know with Mooney, though, he is extremely reluctant to pull Gilly, Grant, Tyler if one of them is struggling, despite the fact that we have a solid bench that might be able to spark us. Sometimes, a little time off the court, when your struggling can also help that player reset as well. Playing through it isn't always the answer, although it is for Mooney.
Also think is sends a bad message to the bench players, who can and do get very limited time if they come in and don't play well, but if one of the Big 3, has a longer bad stretch, they don't get the same treatment.
What made it our most complete game of the year is that we took the lead early, we held the lead through most of the first half, we led at halftime, we led through the second half, and we pulled away at crunchtime to win by 10 against a quality opponent. I don't care how we did it, just THAT we did it. We hadn't done that all season against a good team, as others have pointed out.
Is it sustainable without Tyler scoring 40 points a night? Who knows. But we'll find out in the next few weeks.
Is it sustainable without Tyler scoring 40 points a night? Who knows. But we'll find out in the next few weeks.
We had no Connor or Dji for VCU, and I learned here that Marcus is a "waste of space" for having committed a turnover. So what is your hindsight 20/20 substitution plan? Sherod to cover Vince Williams?
no, we had to bench Nick for missing a couple shots in a row also. we're down to Kulju.
When I say bench someone, I don't mean take them out and never put them back in. I mean, you take a guy out who is struggling and insert one of our bench players for a period of time for a spark. I think that is better sometimes than just keep playing a guy who is completely in his head (which Tyler was against VCU). As for who covered, Williams, I believe he scored 22 points on us, so I would say whomever was guarding him, didn't do an overly spectacular job.
As for players who need a little time on the bench, Tyler is much less of an issue that Gilyard, who gets 40 minutes nearly every game regardless of how he plays.
Nick is benched because he can't guard anyone and if he isn't making shots for us, he just can't be in the game. Which some of us said before the season started only to be drowned out by a chorus of folks (including the coaching staff) that his shooting would offset his defense. Because Sherod covering Vince Williams was the plan at the start of the season, but yeah, that seem pretty laughable now.
This has been the way Mooney has operated for 17 years & will be the next 17. Regardless of how good or bad play on the court is, Mooney has always had core players he's reluctant to pull. On the other hand, subs have historically been yanked if they make mistakes in limited play.
In defense of Mooney, I'm not sure if other coaches don't react similarly.
Did I say "in defense of Mooney"? Wow - take it in while it lasts.
Impose a one-week self-ban from this board and slink away in shame...
100%. If Burton wasn't as good as he was, Spiders lose this game against Bonnies.
Good news, there was no collapse down the stretch
And if Tyler didn’t play so poorly against VCU and Davidson, we would’ve won those games. This is my last post on this as I’m a huge Tyler fan as well. I hope he continues to play at this level as we are obviously a lot more dangerous when he’s a primary scorer.
Yes and no. Mooney always his favorites who can do wrong. On this team that is Gilyard. He can stink it up out there at times and their is never a consequence. I do think that is unique among coaches because I think most coaches understand you cannot have different rules for different players.
some coaches may do differently, but to me most determine the team hierarchy over months of practice and games and they stick with it. it certainly adjusts over time, but not in an evening.
if Gilyard is our best PG (and he is by a mile), you want him on the floor whether he made or missed his last 5 shots. in some cases there's not a big difference between players. then you might be more inclined to "look for a spark".
if Gilyard is our best PG (and he is by a mile), you want him on the floor whether he made or missed his last 5 shots. in some cases there's not a big difference between players. then you might be more inclined to "look for a spark".
Actually both good points, Gilly can get a rest to get his footing sometimes, But he cannot really as as sman points out, there is not really a competent 2nd option. That is recruiting and roster management. Not advocating for burning Nelson's shirt, but probably should have had someone in place before Gilly's 5th year. I think Wilson can be strong defender for us, but a Brickus type with more offensive game would have been nice.
Wilson, Goose, Crabtree can all handle the PG duties to give Gilly rest, particularly when Gilly is struggling. They all already act as PG when Gilly is in the game at times anyway.
Would be interesting to see Goose and Crabtree on the court at the same time. That gives a lot of height at guard, might be an interesting look to throw out there every once in a while.
Remember, it took Mooney 4 years to try a 2 big man look with Grace and Golden, but now that he finally came around and tried it, it appears he likes, given we are playing that combo more and more.
If Gilly is playing like he did last night, play him all 40 minutes, but he doesn't play like that consistently every game.
at PG, I can't imagine if the super-senior thing didn't pan out this year.
Goose and Crabtree aren't lead guards. while I believe Zay will improve, he hasn't looked ready to be a starting PG yet but maybe forcing it would have sped up the learning curve. Dji's been hurt a lot. and Nelson was coming off an injury. Nelson probably would have been thrown in and expected to carry that spot. no idea how that would have turned out.
tough to imagine this whole season without the super-seniors. could have been a dumpster fire with single digit wins. pretty sure that would have ended the Mooney experience.
Goose and Crabtree aren't lead guards. while I believe Zay will improve, he hasn't looked ready to be a starting PG yet but maybe forcing it would have sped up the learning curve. Dji's been hurt a lot. and Nelson was coming off an injury. Nelson probably would have been thrown in and expected to carry that spot. no idea how that would have turned out.
tough to imagine this whole season without the super-seniors. could have been a dumpster fire with single digit wins. pretty sure that would have ended the Mooney experience.
Crabtree has become the invisible man. I think he can give us good minutes, but it doesn't appear the coaching staff agrees.
I think he's got a good shot but doesn't appear looking to shoot. Earlier in the season he did. I think next year he probably gets decent points per game.
Sorry I didn't get back to this yesterday. My comment about a complete game was alluded to earlier. We didn't come out flat, we didn't have a scoring drought, we played good defense.
I was/am concerned about no one scoring but Tyler. But I was thinking that maybe the rest of the team finally figured out that you keep feeding the guy with the hot hand until he cools off.
I was/am concerned about no one scoring but Tyler. But I was thinking that maybe the rest of the team finally figured out that you keep feeding the guy with the hot hand until he cools off.
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