Roche posted on Instagram that he's proud to be part of the collective. No mention of how much he's getting.
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How about that, there's even a website. Led by a Chris Schoemann who has headed up a bunch of them around the country.
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The Spiders' Collective
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Is the Spider Collective for the basketball team only? or all Spiders athletes? There was an opportunity to support a specific athlete option...How about that, there's even a website. Led by a Chris Schoemann who has headed up a bunch of them around the country.
The Spiders' Collective
This is the chance for Spiders fans to support their favorite student-athletes while receiving exclusive access and benefits.
over on the football forum there was something called the NIL Club that was discussed back in mid summer...it appears to still be active
I guess we have competing NIL's? I'm still confused!
I realize that the term "collective" is how these things are referred to, but every time I see it, it makes me think of the Borg.
You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
Serious question. Do you think there will ever be a salary cap on the amount of money an athlete can get yearly from NIL contributions?
Or just show up at The Tavern and have lunch or dinner near him for a lot less.
Hey, good for whoever is running this. In spite of the cookie cutter promo, That’s actually the kind of thing that shows some reasonable level of organization to get it out on the wire.
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no, because that would defeat the whole purpose.
watch the Manziel doc on Netflix and tell me what his cap should have been.
Manziel would have spent it all on booze, gambling, women; not exactly the poster child for why you should give 18 years old unfettered access to large sums of money.
he helped a school increase revenue by hundreds of millions of dollars.
doesn't matter what he would do with it. if someone is willing to pay, there shouldn't be a cap. he was an adult.
Just because someone is 18 and a legal adult, doesn't mean they are equipped to handle all of that, in fact most aren't. College used to be for developing maturity/life skills so that later in life you could. Giving unfettered money to young people just because someone else is also making money doesn't make it right or best for these kids and certainly is hurting the brand and the game in many other ways. I just see it as a lose-lose for all parties in involved. But I understand we live in a capitalistic society, where everything is monetized, and this the way of the day.
but do you? lol.
you're argument for not allowing him to be paid what the market determines is his worth ... is that it's for his own good???
TAMU sold out every game before he got there, and continued to sell out after he left. Did their athletic department revenue increase by $200 or $300 millIon? I think you are vastly overestimating his economic impact.
TAMU earned about $145 million in athletic revenue in its most recent fiscal year. It was not earning $200+ million in the JM era.
did you watch the show? donations alone increased $350 million. and they sold a ridiculous number of #2 jersey's (can't remember how many). plus all the publicity and bowl money, etc. he had a tremendous financial impact.
I do, which is why I said that, I understand.
My argument is that college athletics have forever been amateur and if you want to go play professionally and get paid to do so, than nothing is preventing that. But if you want to go to college, play sports and get a college degree than that is what a college scholarship does for you. But now we blended the two, where a very small percentage of college student can both go to college and get paid for playing, while a vast majority of college athletes will get nothing or a pittance despite putting forth similar efforts for their endavours. For every Johnny Manziel, there are probably a thousand D-1 athletes, playing olympic sports getting nothing.
in my opinion, they should all get what the market determines they should get. which for most who are not impact players or who are playing in non-revenue producing sports is zero. those who make an impact are are worth a lot more.
College sports in general (and college basketball in particular) have always been my favorite sports to root for. So selfishly, I've hated seeing the turn away amateur sports.
But if this is the way it's going to be - if players are going to be allowed to make money, I agree with you spiderman that it should not be capped. I don't want some NCAA upper brass deciding how much money 100's of thousands of students are equipped to handle.
But if this is the way it's going to be - if players are going to be allowed to make money, I agree with you spiderman that it should not be capped. I don't want some NCAA upper brass deciding how much money 100's of thousands of students are equipped to handle.
Agreed fair market value is the way the world works, rightly or wrongly and no reason for UR with in general an alumni group that has done well to follow the trend.
I think personally were asking the wrong questions in this entire matter. Why is the NFL, a multi billion dollar entity, have a developmental league entirely subsidized by educational institutions? There needs to be a minor league for all those sports, if they want to go pro, they should not be stopped from it. The NBA kind of fixed it with the g league.
Furthermore, if the NFL did have a minor league system, would that generate as much interest as college football games? Take a look at the G League for an answer. So many of the players benefit from the branding of the school, from free scholarships to charter flights and paid tutors, things only regular college students (who pay for the activity fees in may of these instances) could dream of. The majority of these schools at the D1 level lose money on college athletics already, but now in order to keep up, many of those same schools are going to have to spend more just to not lose more. Its a never ending rat race I do not find particularly enjoyable.
Student athletes and schools both benefited from this system, in which it allowed for many kids who would never dream of collecting a paycheck play sports at a very high level.
I don't have a problem with a player making money off their NIL, the best part of college sports IMO was having players get recruited in HS and getting to know them as they are rising up the high school ranks, then having that player for 4-5 years to develop them. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. The transfer portal absolutely killed roster continuity though and I find my interest in college athletics waning because of it.
Furthermore, if the NFL did have a minor league system, would that generate as much interest as college football games? Take a look at the G League for an answer. So many of the players benefit from the branding of the school, from free scholarships to charter flights and paid tutors, things only regular college students (who pay for the activity fees in may of these instances) could dream of. The majority of these schools at the D1 level lose money on college athletics already, but now in order to keep up, many of those same schools are going to have to spend more just to not lose more. Its a never ending rat race I do not find particularly enjoyable.
Student athletes and schools both benefited from this system, in which it allowed for many kids who would never dream of collecting a paycheck play sports at a very high level.
I don't have a problem with a player making money off their NIL, the best part of college sports IMO was having players get recruited in HS and getting to know them as they are rising up the high school ranks, then having that player for 4-5 years to develop them. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. The transfer portal absolutely killed roster continuity though and I find my interest in college athletics waning because of it.
I’m all for athletes being compensated for their name, image, and likeness when those things are used as marketing tools. However, this whole “collective” creation is terrible and just further erodes the collegiate concept of a “student athlete”. We are back to the mercenary model, which is how football started in the Ivy Leagues. I am not interested in seeing how much money can be given to an athlete to play on “my favorite college team” for a given year in a couple select sports. It is worse than the pros, where there are actual multi-year contracts. What I want to see is the team building exercise and student athletes who have an investment in their school and their sport. Will I be able to see such a team in D1 hoops? Unfortunately, it will be harder and harder.
so much NIL doom and gloom here.
we lost one guy to a high payimg NIL ... AFTER HE GRADUATED!
we lost one guy to a high payimg NIL ... AFTER HE GRADUATED!
Has nothing to do with Tyler for me. The whole pay to play, transfer at will, conference realignment for football has really taken the amateur nature out of college sports. Everyone is just chasing dollars and no one gives a damn how it impacts college kids, nor the average fan of college sports, as long as select few at the top are raking in tons of dough in the name of "progress".
Exactly what I was saying but in a different way. Also, I am not taking about immediate impact (of which there has been little for UR other than Tyler) but of what the future will bring. None of this is making the “product” better and the whole solution was not executed well.
So tried to find a link to donate a few racks online, but seems like there isn’t one.
Funny how you never hear from certain people unless they think you will give them something. Kind of reminds me of numerous nephews and nieces that are NEVER heard from until graduations, weddings, pregnancies, etc.
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I have not looked at many other NIL websites but is this how must of them are run? Just seems very high level and bland and just donate money and we will make sure it get to kids - is that it? No levels or tiers for donating? No outline on what exactly the collective will ask of student-athletes? What sports? etc. Just seems very basic at this point in time or rushed - and not sure if that is normal for other collectives or are they more robust?
Here's some from in the conference
havocunltd.com
dayton6th.com
www.teamunfurl.com
patriotnationcollective.com
Havoc Collective
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Support Dayton 6th — Dayton 6th - Investing in Dayton Flyers Student-Athletes! #dayton6th
The concept is simple… the Flyer Faithful need to do what they’ve always done and sell out a virtual game versus NIL. Joining Flyer fans from around the globe to be part of annual virtual sellout, we want YOU to purchase a ticket today in support of our 2022-2023 Dayton Flyers. Your purchase of a “
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Team Unfurl | St. Bonaventure Basketball
Welcome to Team Unfurl, a collective that supports NIL opportunities for St. Bonaventure University Men's basketball players.
www.teamunfurl.com
Join the Mason Player's Club — Patriot Nation Collective
The Mason Player’s Club is a membership organization that connects individual fans with members of the George Mason University men’s basketball team. For an annual fee you will get invites to fun-filled events, unique gear, player meet and greets, photo and autograph sessions.
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It does seem to only be for men's hoops at the moment, but yeah, it's not at all clear. Maybe it will expand in the future, but so far the only people saying they've gotten anything from it are men's hoops players.
Our website is just from a template this guy's firm uses to run ones for a bunch of schools. So yes, very bland and generic. See ones for UMass, Providence, Southern Illinois, Arizona State, San Jose State, St. Mary's, Evansville, etc...they're all the same template.
midnightridenil.com
friarfamilynil.com
nilfloorburnu.com
sunangels.org
bluegoldnil.com
gaelsnil.com
trueloyalnil.com
Our website is just from a template this guy's firm uses to run ones for a bunch of schools. So yes, very bland and generic. See ones for UMass, Providence, Southern Illinois, Arizona State, San Jose State, St. Mary's, Evansville, etc...they're all the same template.
The Midnight Ride Collective
The Midnight Ride Collective exists to assist student-athletes in monetizing & profiting from their NIL. Minutemen fans, partner with us!
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The Friar Family Collective
The Friar Family Collective is officially endorsed by Providence College to assist student-athletes in monetizing & profiting from their NIL.
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Floorburn U Collective
This is the chance for Salukis fans to support their favorite student-athletes while receiving exclusive access and benefits.
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Sun Angel Collective – Sun Angel Collective
sunangels.org
Blue & Gold Unlimited
Blue & Gold Unlimited was created to support student-athletes at San Jose State by facilitating legal and compliant NIL opportunities.
bluegoldnil.com
The Gaels NIL Fund
This is the chance for Gaels fans to support their favorite student-athletes while receiving exclusive access and benefits.
gaelsnil.com
TrUE & Loyal
TrUE & Loyal supports student-athletes at the University of Evansville by facilitating NIL opportunities and helping prepare athletes for the future.
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Someone came up from with a great business model. I would expect that as these NILs get better organized they will tire of paying the fees associated with and take this in house, particularly larger schools. But hey for now, yeah just use the already established template and pay these guys a percentage to run your NIL.It does seem to only be for men's hoops at the moment, but yeah, it's not at all clear. Maybe it will expand in the future, but so far the only people saying they've gotten anything from it are men's hoops players.
Our website is just from a template this guy's firm uses to run ones for a bunch of schools. So yes, very bland and generic. See ones for UMass, Providence, Southern Illinois, Arizona State, San Jose State, St. Mary's, Evansville, etc...they're all the same template.
The Midnight Ride Collective
The Midnight Ride Collective exists to assist student-athletes in monetizing & profiting from their NIL. Minutemen fans, partner with us!
The Friar Family Collective
The Friar Family Collective is officially endorsed by Providence College to assist student-athletes in monetizing & profiting from their NIL.
Floorburn U Collective
This is the chance for Salukis fans to support their favorite student-athletes while receiving exclusive access and benefits.
Sun Angel Collective – Sun Angel Collective
Blue & Gold Unlimited
Blue & Gold Unlimited was created to support student-athletes at San Jose State by facilitating legal and compliant NIL opportunities.
The Gaels NIL Fund
This is the chance for Gaels fans to support their favorite student-athletes while receiving exclusive access and benefits.
TrUE & Loyal
TrUE & Loyal supports student-athletes at the University of Evansville by facilitating NIL opportunities and helping prepare athletes for the future.
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