Solly Stansbury Commits - 6'7" wing from France

[urmite]

Who knows what has happened to recruiting, but it seems to be night and day recently. I am very happy with this. Anytime we can get a player who Beilein wants, I will take him and not ask any more questions. This is a great signing in my book.

The only real changes to our staff in recent years have been the subtraction of Brunt and the addition of Jenkins. It's possible we were just "unlucky" for 4 years or possible that Jenkins is a much better recruiter than Brunt. It's also possible that Mooney didn't recruit as much himself previously and now he does. Or (I suppose) vice versa. Those are about the only possibilities I can think of, but I am glad to see us seemingly turn this corner.

Actually Tarrant recruited Solly. After the double header in 1984 where we beat Auburn & Barkley, and at the same location Solly's father hit the game winning shot to beat St. John's & Mullins, Tarrant went up to him and said "If you every have a kid..."

 

[urmite]

Committed by not yet admitted. Did he not have grades after highschool to get into college? Was he in school in France? If not then why would he only have two years eligibility left?

Not entirely sure about the situation but it appears that after Solly graduated HS his father went over to coach in France and Solly went with him.

 

[spiderman]

Not entirely sure about the situation but it appears that after Solly graduated HS his father went over to coach in France and Solly went with him.

was Solly in a French college or a pro there? I'm confused. need more info.

 

[urmite]

was Solly in a French college or a pro there? I'm confused. need more info.

It seems a pro team & league, but I don't know enough about how international basketball regulations work. Does it count as NBA or AAU?

 

[SFspidur]

It's a pro team, on which he played very sparingly this year. I don't know the details of how that affects amateurism in the eyes of the NCAA.

On a basic level, the NCAA allows you to sit out up to a year after high school graduation and then enroll at a college for the first regular term after that in order to retain full eligibility. If there is a longer gap than that, you lose a year of eligibility for each year of organized competition you participate in between high school and college, and you have to sit out a year at your NCAA school. So it appears they are charging him two years of eligibility for his time in France, and then he sits this year.

 

[spiderman]

but we're not sure he has to sit this year, right? last I read that was in question?

 

[PhillySpider]

Given the widespread recruiting, it probably safe to say his overall eligibility is not in question. Next year not only appears in question, but it seems likely he will have to sit out. I base this on the comments coming from close to our program that seem to be saying they expect him to sit. If they thought they really had any case, they'd be starting the public relations battle right away and championing him being immediately eligible etc. to put pressure on NCAA.

Admissions is a fine question however. Is he in or just committed pending admission?

 

[97spiderfan]

I think if admissions were a question, this whole thing would not have been made public. We just had a couple guys denied admissions and think no one is the athletic department or admissions wants the bad PR going with denying a kid who already was reported as being a committed recruit.

 

[urmite]

I know this doesn't mean much 3 years later but I keep finding info.

http://www.nj.com/hssports/blog/boysbasketball/index.ssf/2013/01/post_4.html

 

[SFspidur]

Yeah, the rule is he has to sit a year, and that appears to be what everyone involved is planning for. We're filing an appeal in hopes he can be immediately eligible, but I don't think we expect it to succeed.

 

[97spiderfan]

Yeah, the rule is he has to sit a year, and that appears to be what everyone involved is planning for. We're filing an appeal in hopes he can be immediately eligible, but I don't think we expect it to succeed.

Reading the Cinci and UM boards, they also felt he wouldn't be immediately eligible, and thought that might have played a role in why he wasn't offered as both programs had an immediate need at his position. Message board banter take it for what it is worth, but big programs message boards have posters who are well connected and probably know stuff like this.

 

[urmite]

Another stat link...

http://www.proballers.com/basket-ball-player/by-game/62754/73/solly-stansbury

 

[97spiderfan]

Anyone have any idea how the league he played in France compares talent wise to D-1 college ball?

 

[fan2011]

Anyone have any idea how the league he played in France compares talent wise to D-1 college ball?

The league seems to consist mostly of good ex-college basketball players, it is probably tougher than college basketball on average.

For example Chris Jones, who was a key player for Louisville in 2014/2015, is on PARIS LEVALLOIS. He averaged 13.7 points, 4 rebounds, 3.6 assists in 31 minutes per game as a senior at Louisville. He averages 12 points, 3.9 rebounds and 4.8 assists in 33.7 minutes per game on the french team. The French league seems to be filled with this caliber of player.

 

[urmite]

The league seems to consist mostly of good ex-college basketball players, it is probably tougher than college basketball on average.

For example Chris Jones, who was a key player for Louisville in 2014/2015, is on PARIS LEVALLOIS. He averaged 13.7 points, 4 rebounds, 3.6 assists in 31 minutes per game as a senior at Louisville. He averages 12 points, 3.9 rebounds and 4.8 assists in 33.7 minutes per game on the french team. The French league seems to be filled with this caliber of player.

What I haven't looked at very much is the U21 team that he was on the two prior years. It seems Solly was on the Top team for Paris Levallois for only 5 games. You can see the earlier rosters from my last link.

 

[sdspider]

Maybe change in staff, Mooney stepping up, the newly refurbished Robins Center, all these things I would think are factors in recruiting. The key IMO was getting two really good local products to commit. That was huge to build around those guys. Harper didn't turn out too badly, neither did Brothers.

Remember Solly is from NJ originally we have a pretty good pipeline of players from the garden state.

 

[Ulla1]

Maybe change in staff, Mooney stepping up, the newly refurbished Robins Center, all these things I would think are factors in recruiting. The key IMO was getting two really good local products to commit. That was huge to build around those guys. Harper didn't turn out too badly, neither did Brothers.

Remember Solly is from NJ originally we have a pretty good pipeline of players from the garden state.

True, but the Jersey pipeline is mainly on the Westhampton side; however, they generally can play. OSC

 

[AnnapSpider]

I don't think either Cincinnati or Michigan extended an offer according their boards. He did visit both recently though.

What does that coach at Michighan know?

 

[Stork3]

Regarding recruiting as discussed on this thread...

Spoke with Jeff Schneider (father of Bryce) and Vance Harmon (coach of DeMonte) at the Robins Center today. Both gave kudos to Mooney for establishing and developing relationships. Both think the program is headed in the right direction and will be REALLY good in the coming years. Schneider gave high praise to Rob Jones - and really high praise to Mooney for showing Bryce just how badly he was wanted at Richmond. Coaches from St. Christophers and Henrico have recently said what a difference it made that Mooney took such an interest in the players during the recruiting process and made it clear that they were wanted at Richmond. One high school coach there today also mentioned that Golden will probably develop into another TJ/Geriot type player. Also mentioned that the brother (Bryce Golden) may already be better than Grant.

 

[keefusb]

Regarding recruiting as discussed on this thread...

Spoke with Jeff Schneider (father of Bryce) and Vance Harmon (coach of DeMonte) at the Robins Center today. Both gave kudos to Mooney for establishing and developing relationships. Both think the program is headed in the right direction and will be REALLY good in the coming years. Schneider gave high praise to Rob Jones - and really high praise to Mooney for showing Bryce just how badly he was wanted at Richmond. Coaches from St. Christophers and Henrico have recently said what a difference it made that Mooney took such an interest in the players during the recruiting process and made it clear that they were wanted at Richmond. One high school coach there today also mentioned that Golden will probably develop into another TJ/Geriot type player. Also mentioned that the brother (Bryce Golden) may already be better than Grant.

My son is being recruited by a few schools for soccer, and I know he places a lot more value on the programs where the head coach is personally involved in the recruitment process versus where the recruitment is handled exclusively by assistants.

As far as Stansbury's eligibility is concerned, one of my son's friends committed to play soccer for Duke last year. He recently signed a contract for a German professional team. It is my understanding that his earnings will be paid into an escrow account so he can maintain his NCAA eligibility in case the pro thing doesn't work out.

 

[Ulla1]

Love this video. Watch Solly's dunk at the beginning. He says that he is a winner and I believe. Look forward to Solly suiting up as a Spider. OSC

 

[97spiderfan]

What does that coach at Michighan know?

A lot and his interest in Solly certainly speaks volumes. I was correcting an earlier post that said he had offers from Michigan. That info was tweeted by a Temple fan, it wasn't factual though.

 

[Ulla1]

A lot and his interest in Solly certainly speaks volumes. I was correcting an earlier post that said he had offers from Michigan. That info was tweeted by a Temple fan, it wasn't factual though.

Oh, the the source you quoted, a Michigan fan, was more "factual"? Mmmmm, really? OSC

 

[URSpider95]

I like the pickup. 6-7 200 with some experience and upside. Looks like we're now at 13 scholarship players so unless there are any changes, the team is set for this year. Assuming Solly sits a year, here are our scholarships by class. The openings may change but I'm listing them assuming everyone stays within class and progresses a level each year (i.e. no redshirts). Anyone disagree?

Scholarships:
SR - Cline, SDJ, Wood, Barnard, Abakah
JR
SO - Fore, Friendshuh, Johnson, Pistokache, Stansbury
FR - Buckingham, Sherod, Golden

Commits:
'17 - Godwin, Schneider + 3 openings
'18 - 0 openings
'19 - 5 openings
'20 - 3 openings

 

[urmite]

I like the pickup. 6-7 200 with some experience and upside. Looks like we're now at 13 scholarship players so unless there are any changes, the team is set for this year. Assuming Solly sits a year, here are our scholarships by class. The openings may change but I'm listing them assuming everyone stays within class and progresses a level each year (i.e. no redshirts). Anyone disagree?

Scholarships:
SR - Cline, SDJ, Wood, Barnard, Abakah
JR
SO - Fore, Friendshuh, Johnson, Pistokache, Stansbury
FR - Buckingham, Sherod, Golden

Commits:
'17 - Godwin, Schneider + 3 openings
'18 - 0 openings
'19 - 5 openings
'20 - 3 openings

That looks right, and that is why I think 1 or 2 or the '17 openings will be a grad transfer.
So we can work towards having more 3/4 player classes.

 

[urmite]

Love this video. Watch Solly's dunk at the beginning. He says that he is a winner and I believe. Look forward to Solly suiting up as a Spider. OSC

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I still find the European stats confusing, but...

That appears to be the 21&under French national championship.

Solly was 7 for 7 from 2, 1 for 1 from 3, 5 rebounds, 2 steals... In 19 minutes.
Nice way to finish your 3 year career.

 

[97spiderfan]

Oh, the the source you quoted, a Michigan fan, was more "factual"? Mmmmm, really? OSC

Not that it matters but find a source that says he was actually offered by UM or Cincinnati and then the argument will be settled. If he was offered I would imagine that there would be multiple media sources stating that. The only mention of him being offered was one tweet from a Temple booster

 

[97spiderfan]

I'm not trying to diminish his recruitment but do think facts matters and the facts as I understand them is he was not offered.

 

[urmite]

I'm not trying to diminish his recruitment but do think facts matters and the facts as I understand them is he was not offered.

As I understand the facts, he visited Cincinnati, he visited Michigan, he scheduled a visit to Temple.
As for offers, I don't see any report by the player or the schools. So I would say that offer or no offer is an assumption not a fact. No offer is very likely but not in my opinion a fact.

It is also my understanding that Michigan received a transfer from Kentucky between the time his visit was scheduled and when he arrived. It is possible that MAY have made his visit mostly a formality.

But there are a lot of things that aren't certain.

 

[PhillySpider]

From an article reporting on a game his senior year - -

"Stansbury found himself in foul trouble against Gesicki, but the senior who has interest from Radford, St. Peter's and UMBC, still managed to post eight points and eight rebounds in limited time."

Obviously he has played some since then and might be a different player, but lets not get overly excited until, you know . . . we actually see him play for us.

 

[MountainSpider]

From an article reporting on a game his senior year - -

"Stansbury found himself in foul trouble against Gesicki, but the senior who has interest from Radford, St. Peter's and UMBC, still managed to post eight points and eight rebounds in limited time."

That is from Jan 2013 (3.5 years ago) and doesn't reflect his current skill level at all.

Obviously he has played some since then and might be a different player, but lets not get overly excited until, you know . . . we actually see him play for us.

He IS not MIGHT be a different player now.

Andre Wesson had a pretty terrible offer list until late 2015.
Aleem Ford didn't have any good offers until 2016.
TJ Cline didn't have good offers coming out of high school.
etc.

The information in that article is no more relevant for evaluating Stansbury now than the dated offer list for Wesson/Ford/Cline is for evaluating them now.

 

[Ulla1]

From an article reporting on a game his senior year - -

"Stansbury found himself in foul trouble against Gesicki, but the senior who has interest from Radford, St. Peter's and UMBC, still managed to post eight points and eight rebounds in limited time."

Obviously he has played some since then and might be a different player, but lets not get overly excited until, you know . . . we actually see him play for us.

You guys are amazing. OSC

 

[spiderman]

some guys are very concerned with being premature in their enthusiasm. I personally get excited quickly and I prefer it that way. others might consider that selfish.

 

[MrTbone]

From an article reporting on a game his senior year - -

"Stansbury found himself in foul trouble against Gesicki, but the senior who has interest from Radford, St. Peter's and UMBC, still managed to post eight points and eight rebounds in limited time."

Obviously he has played some since then and might be a different player, but lets not get overly excited until, you know . . . we actually see him play for us.

I saw that too, my logic says he probably had a series of mediocre offers out of HS, chose to go the France route as an alternative, and is now much older/experienced/capable.

As others noted, I wouldn't judge a guy too much on his offer list from 3+ years ago.

 

[Ulla1]

Don't think this has been posted, nice video; did not realize Solly was a French citizen. Makes sense as his Dad was likely working in France. Really like Solly's attitude and skillset.

 

[Spiders10]

I thought Joe Kirby was on scholarship as well? Am I wrong about that or has something changed this summer?

Didn't see his name on the list of scholarship players above.

 

[TBSpyder]

Joe Kirby is a walk on player. As we had an open scholarship last year, and Kirby had worked hard in practices, he was awarded the open scholarship. Given the number of guards on the roster, I don't expect to see much of Kirby this year. But he is one of the best of our walk ons.

 

[SFspidur]

I don't think it was ever officially announced, but think it's fairly assumed it was one-year deal with Kirby given the leftover schollie situation.

 

[spider fan]

That interview rocks - will enjoy hearing his post game comments after he is a Spider.

 

[urmite]