I don't get the loyalty comments. Do you really think Mooney will just play Tyne a lot of minutes because of loyalty if someone else gives us a better chance to win? Most guys who return after playing a lot of minutes will get good minutes again because they are our best option, not because of loyalty. What about Wojcik? He started every game and averaged 30 mpg as a freshman, but the next year he didn't start and only played 11.7 mpg. Julius Johnson started 17 games and averaged over 22 mpg as a sophomore, but got 0 starts and 15.9 mpg as a junior. As a sophomore, Wilson started 15 games and averaged over 23 mpg in those starts before being benched and averging about 6 mpg his final 16 games. Or Nick? His final year, he only started the 1st 2 games and played 15 mpg.
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Some of these players lost pt for different reasons such as injuries simply not producing, etc.
Beagle came in with pretty good production and reputation as offensive rebounder & he’s not allowed to do that by Mooney.
After reading several posts on here, is there any wonder why some spiders don't get to the line and don't shoot more free throws?
If you are an outside shooting or 3pt shooting team, there is no reason to foul or much less cover a player that is shooting less than 30% from the field.
You want to draw fouls, find some slashers that attack the basket.
If you are an outside shooting or 3pt shooting team, there is no reason to foul or much less cover a player that is shooting less than 30% from the field.
You want to draw fouls, find some slashers that attack the basket.
There are others you didn’t mention that started and got good mins regardless of skill. Out of respect for them I’m not going to give their names. These go back several years. My point about Tyne is he will probably start this season. I don’t keep a data base and slice and dice stats. Whether Tyne gets less, same , or more mins remains to be seen. I never provided estimates of his projected mins based upon prior years. What I said is that he’ll get his mins.
Agree 100%. The only way around this is if Johnston can run the point, Lopez can play the two for us. That would make a really big back court which I like for a number of reasons. Mooney is enarmoured with the small PG though and I think it is Tyne's job to lose. Tyne did start to lose favor later in the season but was forced back into the starting line-up due to injuries, so I don't think his job is safe.
I get that you've lost patience with Tyne. I just think there's a lot of talent there. I think he's a better shooter than his numbers show. he can get where he wants with the ball. he's a really good on-ball defender. he just turned 20. he was extremely young for a guy getting the minute he got.
he's not Gilly. any comparison to him is unrealistic for pretty much any player we have. if I'm wrong and he's coming off the bench or not playing, feel free to bump this. but I'm betting he turns the corner and is one of our best players this year.
Gilyard actually took around 50 fewer 3fga his junior year compared to his sophomore year, though he did shoot 36.7% compared to 36.3% haha.
What are you basing this on? Freshman year he shot 21-78 (27%). Sophomore year he shot 38-141 (27%). That's consistently pretty poor with a large sample size (over 200 shots and halfway through his career).
I keep waiting for his better shooting but I'm just not seeing it.
My point was it won't be because of loyalty and if someone can beat him out, they will get more minutes than him. Kind of like what Tyne did to Trevor Smith, who had redshirted and was in his 2nd year here when Tyne came in as a true freshman and beat him out. But, I see his minutes dropping from last year regardless. We don't want or need him at 30+ minutes.
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A better shooter than his numbers? Maybe u could say that is he had low volume, but he was 21-78 (26.9%) from 3 his 1st year and 38-140 (27.1%) last year.
Get where he wants with the ball? He had 45 assists and 51 turnovers last year, and didn't get to the FT line much.
Agree no one should be compared to Jacob, but no way will he be one of our best players this year. If so, we are in for another long year. He needs to be more of a role player, not a 30+ minute guy. And, I know I am being hard on him, but there is nothing wrong with a D1 guy being a nice role player. That is pretty cool and good for him if that is the case. I am probably hard on him mainly because he averaged 30+ mpg last year. That was not his fault. We were just terrible and had no one else to play. So, if he had the same numbers at 15 mpg, maybe I wouldn't be as hard on him, although we need better shooting from him if he plays even that much.
I have always said size shouldn't be a factor, but the fact that his numbers are what they are makes his size more of a factor. If I am gonna give up size by giving a small, 5'10 at best guard big minutes, he needs to shoot well from 3 and do all the other things above average, like draw fouls and get to the line a lot like Hunt did.
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I’m in agreement with Sman here on Tyne. I think he’s a little better than he’s being given credit for. He can get himself open but what good is being open if you can’t make the shot.
My Econ professors at Richmond taught me a same set of stats can be manipulated to make points on both sides. Here are two encouraging stats on Mikkel and ones that I’m choosing to see as a positive going into next year.
1) When Mikkel shot 10+ times in a game last season he was 44.3% from the field. When he shot fewer than that he was 28.1% from the field.
2) The first 23 games of the season Mikkel shot 35.4%. The final 9 games he shot 43.4%.
I don’t know what to make of these stats. It could be total coincidence and there are surely many other factors at work. Would be interested to hear people’s takes on both of these and what it could mean going into the 2025 season.
Tyne has played a ton of minutes and taken a ton of shots. There is a huge body of evidence on how he performs in D1 games. It’s not great
obviously not basing it on numbers!
and obviously I could be wriong. but I like his form. we've heard good things. he just has to do it.
If u look at 9 shots a game, u would have to include games of 3-9 and 3-9. Using 8 shots, his games were 3-8, 2-8, 2-8, 2-8, and 1-8. The 10 shot stat is meaningless, as is looking at a 9 game stretch for a guy who has played 65 games.
agreed he hasn't shown to be a creator. outside of Gilly, we almost never have a ball dominant PG. usually run things through a big.
as I've said before, Tyne's more the off guard without the shot making so far. hopefully paing Johnson with him lets both do their thing.
