I don't get the loyalty comments. Do you really think Mooney will just play Tyne a lot of minutes because of loyalty if someone else gives us a better chance to win? Most guys who return after playing a lot of minutes will get good minutes again because they are our best option, not because of loyalty. What about Wojcik? He started every game and averaged 30 mpg as a freshman, but the next year he didn't start and only played 11.7 mpg. Julius Johnson started 17 games and averaged over 22 mpg as a sophomore, but got 0 starts and 15.9 mpg as a junior. As a sophomore, Wilson started 15 games and averaged over 23 mpg in those starts before being benched and averging about 6 mpg his final 16 games. Or Nick? His final year, he only started the 1st 2 games and played 15 mpg.
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Some of these players lost pt for different reasons such as injuries simply not producing, etc.
Beagle came in with pretty good production and reputation as offensive rebounder & he’s not allowed to do that by Mooney.
After reading several posts on here, is there any wonder why some spiders don't get to the line and don't shoot more free throws?
If you are an outside shooting or 3pt shooting team, there is no reason to foul or much less cover a player that is shooting less than 30% from the field.
You want to draw fouls, find some slashers that attack the basket.
If you are an outside shooting or 3pt shooting team, there is no reason to foul or much less cover a player that is shooting less than 30% from the field.
You want to draw fouls, find some slashers that attack the basket.
There are others you didn’t mention that started and got good mins regardless of skill. Out of respect for them I’m not going to give their names. These go back several years. My point about Tyne is he will probably start this season. I don’t keep a data base and slice and dice stats. Whether Tyne gets less, same , or more mins remains to be seen. I never provided estimates of his projected mins based upon prior years. What I said is that he’ll get his mins.
Agree 100%. The only way around this is if Johnston can run the point, Lopez can play the two for us. That would make a really big back court which I like for a number of reasons. Mooney is enarmoured with the small PG though and I think it is Tyne's job to lose. Tyne did start to lose favor later in the season but was forced back into the starting line-up due to injuries, so I don't think his job is safe.
I get that you've lost patience with Tyne. I just think there's a lot of talent there. I think he's a better shooter than his numbers show. he can get where he wants with the ball. he's a really good on-ball defender. he just turned 20. he was extremely young for a guy getting the minute he got.
he's not Gilly. any comparison to him is unrealistic for pretty much any player we have. if I'm wrong and he's coming off the bench or not playing, feel free to bump this. but I'm betting he turns the corner and is one of our best players this year.
Gilyard actually took around 50 fewer 3fga his junior year compared to his sophomore year, though he did shoot 36.7% compared to 36.3% haha.
What are you basing this on? Freshman year he shot 21-78 (27%). Sophomore year he shot 38-141 (27%). That's consistently pretty poor with a large sample size (over 200 shots and halfway through his career).
I keep waiting for his better shooting but I'm just not seeing it.
My point was it won't be because of loyalty and if someone can beat him out, they will get more minutes than him. Kind of like what Tyne did to Trevor Smith, who had redshirted and was in his 2nd year here when Tyne came in as a true freshman and beat him out. But, I see his minutes dropping from last year regardless. We don't want or need him at 30+ minutes.
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A better shooter than his numbers? Maybe u could say that is he had low volume, but he was 21-78 (26.9%) from 3 his 1st year and 38-140 (27.1%) last year.
Get where he wants with the ball? He had 45 assists and 51 turnovers last year, and didn't get to the FT line much.
Agree no one should be compared to Jacob, but no way will he be one of our best players this year. If so, we are in for another long year. He needs to be more of a role player, not a 30+ minute guy. And, I know I am being hard on him, but there is nothing wrong with a D1 guy being a nice role player. That is pretty cool and good for him if that is the case. I am probably hard on him mainly because he averaged 30+ mpg last year. That was not his fault. We were just terrible and had no one else to play. So, if he had the same numbers at 15 mpg, maybe I wouldn't be as hard on him, although we need better shooting from him if he plays even that much.
I have always said size shouldn't be a factor, but the fact that his numbers are what they are makes his size more of a factor. If I am gonna give up size by giving a small, 5'10 at best guard big minutes, he needs to shoot well from 3 and do all the other things above average, like draw fouls and get to the line a lot like Hunt did.
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I’m in agreement with Sman here on Tyne. I think he’s a little better than he’s being given credit for. He can get himself open but what good is being open if you can’t make the shot.
My Econ professors at Richmond taught me a same set of stats can be manipulated to make points on both sides. Here are two encouraging stats on Mikkel and ones that I’m choosing to see as a positive going into next year.
1) When Mikkel shot 10+ times in a game last season he was 44.3% from the field. When he shot fewer than that he was 28.1% from the field.
2) The first 23 games of the season Mikkel shot 35.4%. The final 9 games he shot 43.4%.
I don’t know what to make of these stats. It could be total coincidence and there are surely many other factors at work. Would be interested to hear people’s takes on both of these and what it could mean going into the 2025 season.
Tyne has played a ton of minutes and taken a ton of shots. There is a huge body of evidence on how he performs in D1 games. It’s not great
obviously not basing it on numbers!
and obviously I could be wriong. but I like his form. we've heard good things. he just has to do it.
If u look at 9 shots a game, u would have to include games of 3-9 and 3-9. Using 8 shots, his games were 3-8, 2-8, 2-8, 2-8, and 1-8. The 10 shot stat is meaningless, as is looking at a 9 game stretch for a guy who has played 65 games.
agreed he hasn't shown to be a creator. outside of Gilly, we almost never have a ball dominant PG. usually run things through a big.
as I've said before, Tyne's more the off guard without the shot making so far. hopefully paing Johnson with him lets both do their thing.
All I know is if Mooney does not have a great PG his teams struggle. So, we had better hope that either Tyne has improved significantly OR Johnson can be that guy for us. If neither happens, we are not going to be very good next year.
hey that's what I said re: Goose and 3 pt form & didn't u say no way he was going to shoot better. and that was on less sample size. & then bang goose was probably most consistent best shooter on team his last year. hey I agree with just a bit of a 180.
I liked Tyne's frosh year he showed promise. Much better team, that was part of it. it didn't translate as soph. I agree we can't have him shooting like that in a large sample. it's also amazing to me Mooney with his style of play and recruiting philosophy has so many flawed 3 pt shooters, flawed fundamentals that don't improve or even get worse. we know it's not just a Tyne micro problem. Anyway I lean to Tyne ceiling being higher tho his stats tell another story. I get the skepticism but I'd personally bet on improvement.
True, but he wouldn’t be the first guy to take another step up entering year 3. In my opinion he was asked to do way too much last season. It would have been much more beneficial for him to play 10-15 minutes a night than have to run the entire offense all game. The roster construction was absolutely terrible last season. We looked like a middle of the road Big West team.
Just because something contrasts your view doesn’t make it meaningless. Just two interesting stats that trend to the optimistic.
Now for the pessimistic side:
1) Tyne only shot 50% or higher from the field in 5 of 32 games last year.
2) Tyne had more assists than turnovers in 10 of 32 games.
Pretty horrifying stuff from a starting PG in the A10.
So, you agree he can't create and he can't make shots......what makes you think Tyne, at maybe 5'8, i s a better off guard option than 6'5 Lopez or 6'2 Thomas? Speaking of Lopez, didn't you disagree with me and say we would definitely not add a guard with our last spot?
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again ... I get that you think he's a finished product and you've for the most part given up on him. to repeat myself over and over ... I think there's more there. I expect a jump from Tyne more than any other returner. and I'm fully aware I could be wrong.
thought I explained this in depth already ... Lopez is a guy that can play the 3, or the 3rd guard in your 3 guard rotation. call him a guard if you want, but he's a guard like Tanner is a guard. and it totally makes sense to bring in competition at the 3. we didn't have proven players there.
we didn't recruit over anyone in this transfer class as expected. Johnston, Thomas, Lopez and Daughtry could all play together.
if we bring in a 15th ... who knows where that player would fit. I'd guess a 5 but there's a lot of overlap with 15 guys.
Come on Sman. This is getting ridiculous. You still insist on this we are not gonna recruit guards crap even when you were wrong last year as well. We got into a long debate last year when you insisted we were 100% done recruiting guards, and then Bizjack came in for a visit. Now, this year, you again said we were done. When I mentioned Boldin was a guard, you said he doesn't shoot 3s and nothing in his game screams guard. So, now with Lopez, who is a guard, plays like a guard, and went 56-139 (40.3%) from 3 last year, you say, but he can play the 3. My goodness Sman, we played 3 guards 6'0 and under together at times last year, and past years as well, so, newsflash, most guards can play the 3. It doesn't mean they aren't guards. And, thank goodness they didn't listen to you and we weren't done recruiting guards, the most important position in the game, just because have 3 guards with experience, including a guy like Tyne who you think will magically improve greatly next year. But, whatever, keep acting like you were so right here. Unbelievable.
we didn't recruit over anyone. all 3 can play at the same time. that's the point. Lopez can play the 3 for me, or be a 3rd guard in your 3 guard lineup.
can't remember playing Tyne, Hunt and White together. if you say we did guess I'll have to take your word on it. certainly couldn't have worked well.
are you still going to argue that we don't have to have 3 guys who can play the 5 ... when every year we make sure we have 3 guys who can play the 5?
can't remember playing Tyne, Hunt and White together. if you say we did guess I'll have to take your word on it. certainly couldn't have worked well.
are you still going to argue that we don't have to have 3 guys who can play the 5 ... when every year we make sure we have 3 guys who can play the 5?
15th? You mean replacing Mooney?
(And to head off any jokes at the pass. Not that Mooney!)
What do you mean we "didn't recruit over anyone in this class, as expected". No coach would believe in what you are selling here. Not all transfers pan out. So, instead of getting another guy, coaches will just hope the guy they get always delievers? I can't believe you are holding onto this thinking. Any coach that isn't always trying to improve his team, especially at guard, should be fired. Seriously. Why in the world would u not try to improve your team at not only the most important position in the game, but a position that has as many as 3 and sometimes even 4 guys out there together? And, you are still holding onto your opinion even after we just got Lopez? Even if we just wanted to play 2 guards, you see no scenario at all where Lopez could take minutes from Thomas? I do, and he certainly can with 3 guard lineups. No matter who you want to call a guard and a 3, the bottom line is Lopez, a transfer, will likely take some minutes from Thomas, a transfer. And, after landing White last year to go along with Hunt and Tyne, we added GW3, which you now say this year we would never do, and still won't admit we added another guard even after adding Lopez. Take the L, Sman. Geez.
You can always find a 3rd guy to play the 5. They are called forwards. Can't remember the last time we needed one or one was any kind of factor for us. Would you rather have Soulis or Lopez? I'm actually afraid of what you might say here. But, you keep living in your add more 5s game, and I will add more guards and beat your team everytime.
I cannot debate u here because u always cheat a little to help your argument. Like "Sal was a 5" or "Lopez is a 3". My goodness, we just added Lopez when u said we should add a 3rd big, and u somehow act like I was wrong and ask if I still think we don't need a 3rd big? Whatever.
I cannot debate u here because u always cheat a little to help your argument. Like "Sal was a 5" or "Lopez is a 3". My goodness, we just added Lopez when u said we should add a 3rd big, and u somehow act like I was wrong and ask if I still think we don't need a 3rd big? Whatever.
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that's like saying "you can always find someone to play the point. they're called guards."
but we both know a PG is important.
other than any time a 5 of ours missed a game? you can't expect the 2nd big man to play all 40. and if you want a forward covering Robbie Avila, then we have irreconcilable differences. maybe AP could successfully play the 5, I don't know. don't think we've ever seen him try.
Lopez ... because we added Daughtry.
we already landed the 3rd big with Daughtry. as I've said a hundred times, the 3rd big doesn't have to be a true 5. it's ideally a 4/5 guy ... like Grace was.
ask a college coach about positions and they'll tell you a kid is who he can defend. and ask about carrying a 3rd guy who can defend a 5. the ones I've known all want a third big man.
AP can guard Avila only if he beats out Tyne…
I was thinking the same. How many times did we see Tyne trying to guard big men under the goal this past season? The good news is he learned his role and should be seasoned for next season.
Other than the weave, this is my 2nd favorite aspect of Moonsys.
feels like a job interview.
No kidding. Would be a lot easier if the guy I was interviewing could maybe admit he was wrong sometimes. But, whatever.
No different playing Lopez at 3 tham Roach. Same height and hopefully Lopez is more versatile in his shot selection.
I'm always amused when Mooney refuses to do social media but then commits probably 20 minutes of his time to set up for and do a podcast for a guy with 46 subscribers.
Anyway, not a ton of insights in here unsurprisingly. Talks about prioritizing keeping and developing our guys in the transfer portal era, but also plugging in new guys as needed. It's changed how summer practice works, requiring them to really come out of the gates quickly building from scratch with so many new players each year rather than just acclimatizing a few freshmen.
Was asked about our poor offensive production last year and what we can do to improve it. Mentions the Hunt injury as being a big deal, which it was but ignores the fact that we sucked even before that. Says there is an emphasis this offseason in how to generate easier baskets...better pace, converting turnovers, more second shots (I've got an idea there...OFFENSIVE REBOUNDS).
The guy tries to dig into Hunt's status and is surprised to learn he's out of eligibility. Mooney just says he's fully recovered and pursuing a pro career.
Prompted by a question, Mooney says Tyne is a great defender, strong, quick, tough. Improved offensively over the course of the season. Trying to be a little more savvy and take his time a bit more will help him.
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Anyway, not a ton of insights in here unsurprisingly. Talks about prioritizing keeping and developing our guys in the transfer portal era, but also plugging in new guys as needed. It's changed how summer practice works, requiring them to really come out of the gates quickly building from scratch with so many new players each year rather than just acclimatizing a few freshmen.
Was asked about our poor offensive production last year and what we can do to improve it. Mentions the Hunt injury as being a big deal, which it was but ignores the fact that we sucked even before that. Says there is an emphasis this offseason in how to generate easier baskets...better pace, converting turnovers, more second shots (I've got an idea there...OFFENSIVE REBOUNDS).
The guy tries to dig into Hunt's status and is surprised to learn he's out of eligibility. Mooney just says he's fully recovered and pursuing a pro career.
Prompted by a question, Mooney says Tyne is a great defender, strong, quick, tough. Improved offensively over the course of the season. Trying to be a little more savvy and take his time a bit more will help him.
Marching to Madness, Episode 1,023 - Richmond head coach Chris Mooney - CollegeHoopsWatch
Coach Chris Mooney joins us once again on “Marching to Madness,” where we discuss his general ideology of the Spiders and the college game. Coach Mooney started 107 games in…
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More importantly, what is the orientation of Mooney's background? It looks like he must be lying on the floor on his stomach for the background to be situated the way that it is. Is he in a barn? Maybe it's a virtual background but if so, it's an oddly oriented choice.
