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Rocco mentioned in connection with UD job

AnnapSpider said:
Remember the cry- "Don't forget Cooper" ! The schools worst president, and harmful to
the athletic department. Is Crutcher following that path?
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Crutcher sits below me at practically every home men's basketball game. I think he's a fan of the hoops team. How that translates to football is anyone's guess, but I don't think he's harmful to the whole athletic department. He's not sending us to Division III, no matter how much FRS says so.
 
I can vouch for Dr. Crutcher's regular attendance with his wife at our football games. His parking space is adjacent to ours. He is less visible because he is in the President's Box usually.
 
Think it's great that he has been meeting with our basketball recruits. OSC
 
In terms of FCS, I think we're as well supported as can be expected. There's a good reason we're not a power 5 school. I don't think Rocco would get more support elsewhere. If he wants to win a national title in the next 5 years, hard to imagine another place offering him a better chance.
 
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our sports lose money so it is not realistic to expect that our coaches will get everything they want as far as salaries and other parts that cost money. am sure that they try and give them what they want after prioritizing but not all.
 
Rocco is either the highest paid or one of a handful of the highest paid FCS coaches. He won't leave for another FCS job over the money. And I have no reason to think he would leave over any other perceived deficiencies, either.
 
Eight Legger said:
Rocco is either the highest paid or one of a handful of the highest paid FCS coaches. He won't leave for another FCS job over the money. And I have no reason to think he would leave over any other perceived deficiencies, either.
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I'm pretty sure he is the second highest paid. I believe Libertys current head coach is the highest paid.
 
Gill is making close to $800k at Liberty, way above any other FCS coach. Clearly not worth the cash, but they've never hesitated to throw it around. Bet they wish they'd just offered Danny $800k to stay.
 
I suspect there is concern on Danny's part about overall commitment. We are a Top 20 ( or better) program every year but not sure our commitment is at the level of others consistently at that level and there are I think more than a few evidences and I don't even think that includes Broadus. Look at Trott to JMU. To all of us a welcome thing, but maybe not to Danny. And even if he wasn't upset directly, he has to be upset that he can't pay assistants. It's not as simple as bidding wars. It's a symbol of commitment. I have heard our non-salaries and non-scholarship budget is extremely low vs. comparable programs. This is recruiting budget, travel budget, etc. and shows up in a lot of ways.

Danny has been offered an strong arguably above market value contract is my understanding but is actually looking for more overall commitment to the program and not just himself. He's looking to make sure the program is positioned to compete as the Top level of FCS continues to evolve - - something we are a little slow reacting to. He is a principled guy - - best for him, best for assistants, best for his players is what he wants and he may not settle for less.

I am VERY concerned. Word from my UD sources are they want (badly) to talk and he has said not while still playing which is very different than no. But also illustrates his principles - he isn't going the London route.

Reality is that our overall commitment isn't top 5 or 10 or even 20. Danny wants this "fixed".
 
is there a point where you just say this is our budget, as far as we are willing to go on a money losing proposition? if our sports made money that would be one thing but they do not so do you just keep spending more and more to keep up with much larger schools who can just increase their student fees by $50 and keep on trucking? we have a very solid program and we are paying for it but are we ever going to be n. dakota state, probably not. think DR has done a great job for us and hope he remains here and keeps our program up where they are but if that is not possible, then we have to go on without him.
 
WebSpinner said:
is there a point where you just say this is our budget, as far as we are willing to go on a money losing proposition? if our sports made money that would be one thing but they do not so do you just keep spending more and more to keep up with much larger schools who can just increase their student fees by $50 and keep on trucking? we have a very solid program and we are paying for it but are we ever going to be n. dakota state, probably not. think DR has done a great job for us and hope he remains here and keeps our program up where they are but if that is not possible, then we have to go on without him.
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My guess is that his requests are not unreasonable. I don't want to lose him. We don't have to be NDSU to win or win an occasional NC. My ties to the school are through athletics, I'm sure I would stay in touch but not to the extent without competitive athletic teams. If athletics is a lost leader that garners national attention and spotlights the other wonderful attributes of the school spend the damn money.
 
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guess one has to determine what type of money is beyond what we are willing to spend. have no idea of what we are talking about but not really into bidding wars over the assistants if that is the prob. no question that assistants are key to winning and we need the best we can obtain and keep but if some other school wants to give that guy three years guaranteed at a price way above ours, we have to let him go or find a donor who wishes to pay for the higher costs. UR is on very solid financial ground but we did not get there by being loosey-goosey with our money
 
PhillySpider said:
I am VERY concerned. Word from my UD sources are they want (badly) to talk and he has said not while still playing which is very different than no. But also illustrates his principles - he isn't going the London route.
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If true:
A. UR administration is giving Rocco and program the runaround (funding/support), and he wants to leave.
B. Rocco isn't getting along with his bosses, and wants to start looking around.
C. Rocco and his agent are using a possible chat with UD to light a fire under administration, in an effort to get more program funding, better payday.
D. None of the above.
 
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If true:
A. UR administration is giving Rocco and program the runaround (funding/support), and he wants to leave.
B. Rocco isn't getting along with his bosses, and wants to start looking around.
C. Rocco and his agent are using a possible chat with UD to light a fire under administration, in an effort to get more program funding, better payday.
D. None of the above.
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I'll go with C but we better not call his bluff.
 
Spiders10 said:
If true:
A. UR administration is giving Rocco and program the runaround (funding/support), and he wants to leave.
B. Rocco isn't getting along with his bosses, and wants to start looking around.
C. Rocco and his agent are using a possible chat with UD to light a fire under administration, in an effort to get more program funding, better payday.
D. None of the above.
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D is the answer.UD source-wonder who that could be-a UD alum who is a ticket holder who is extremely desperate that they at least talk to Danny.

I hear the Mickster and the UD admin are talking next week.It's a secret,don't tell anyone.

The guy who does sandwiches at WAWA in Rehoboth Beach really wants the Hens to "bring back the guy from Sam Houston and beg for his forgiveness and that firing him was a big misunderstanding"
 
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Coaches would be stupid not to use other opportunities for leverage. If that's what's happening here, I have no problem with it. Hope he gets what he wants from UR in that case. Ultimately, if he chose to leave, that would be his call to make. JMU and UD sell a lot more tickets than we do, and that will always be the case. Presumably, that helps their football budgets grow.
 
Eight Legger said:
Coaches would be stupid not to use other opportunities for leverage. If that's what's happening here, I have no problem with it. Hope he gets what he wants from UR in that case. Ultimately, if he chose to leave, that would be his call to make. JMU and UD sell a lot more tickets than we do, and that will always be the case. Presumably, that helps their football budgets grow.
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They may sell more tickets but they don't win more championshipso. While I'm sure they have good kids, there's none better than ours. Our campus walk is pretty spectacular too. Pay the man and his assistants a competitive salary for an elite FCS program and support them. I MO we're getting a great return.
 
as an employee, you have to listen to any other entity which comes along about a job. it stretches you, you learn what others may have that you do not, it just makes sense. am sure DR will listen to delaware, he may like what he hears, he may take the position or he may remain here buy have his agent put some new things in his contract.
 
Not to question any previous comments on this subject but it's not like our assistant coaches have been in a revolving door. Lot of stability there: McCorkle - 5 yrs, Sintim 2 yrs., Rojas 5 yrs, Polin 9 yrs, Mines 5 yrs., Legg 10 yrs, Belin 5 yrs. We lost our offensive coordinator to Clemson (alma mater) and defensive coordinator to head job at W. Illinois. If there is concern it may be re our assistants' salaries but perhaps it is other things.
 
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Not to question any previous comments on this subject but it's not like our assistant coaches have been in a revolving door. Lot of stability there: McCorkle - 5 yrs, Sintim 2 yrs., Rojas 5 yrs, Polin 9 yrs, Mines 5 yrs., Legg 10 yrs, Belin 5 yrs. We lost our offensive coordinator to Clemson (alma mater) and defensive coordinator to head job at W. Illinois. If there is concern it may be re our assistants' salaries but perhaps it is other things.
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These guys are pretty well tied to Danny - and they are terrific. Aside from the coaching salaries, there are other things...

-Administrative/admissions challenges
-Facilities- where are we on the capital campaign that has new football locker rooms/training and sports medicine facilities. I saw drawings on that stuff 2 years ago but we won't go public with it.
 
It's sort of public with the campaign brochure up on the athletics site. But no, no big push on the campaign yet. Timing is not great given other events.
 
SFspidur said:
It's sort of public with the campaign brochure up on the athletics site. But no, no big push on the campaign yet. Timing is not great given other events.
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Good points. I missed that we had it posted. Perhaps because it needs more PR ... except for the 'events'. How long do we give those 'events' a chance to sort out?
 
This is so stupid. We are not losing coach Rocco and this has me furious. I really hope the team hasn't heard about any of these rumors because It could distract them. What a classless thing to bring up by this UD reporter even if they are true. I am going to take to UD message boards and even personally attack this reporter on Twitter over this. That being said I personally do not think this is true.
 
There is a lot of smoke. The potential downside to UR is huge. This may be something from his agent...but that it's even gotten to this point is very damning to our program.
 
If we want to keep him, we unquestionably have the resources to do so (at the FCS level) . Do happy big donors and positive school publicity outweigh the cost of the program? Business decision. We'll likely have our answer soon enough.
 
The Facilities at UD are minor league compared to our facilities.

Our resources are far greater than UD can ever dream about.

The level of academic prowress comparison between the schools is a laugher.

The author for the Delaware rag needs a reality check so do some of our posters.

Newark,DE vs Richmond,Va.Please,this is a joke.

Apart from Mooney's salary which is a joke,how much does Mooney pay his assistants
in comparison to Danny's assistants?Anyone know?
 
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When your administration ignores your very successful coach and makes no public statement in his support, then it can jump up and bite you in the butt. If we lose him, then we have no one to blame but administration. When you have a coach picked to go #6 in the CAA and he takes your team to the National Semis and you make no public statement about this, then you deserve what you get. Now he is back in the playoffs again and wins round 1. Someone better wake up and smell the roses.
 
R&B fan said:
When your administration ignores your very successful coach and makes no public statement in his support, then it can jump up and bite you in the butt. If we lose him, then we have no one to blame but administration. When you have a coach picked to go #6 in the CAA and he takes your team to the National Semis and you make no public statement about this, then you deserve what you get. Now he is back in the playoffs again and wins round 1. Someone better wake up and smell the roses.
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Whew. OSC
 
Blaming the reporter is absurd. He is doing a job. He is not putting Rocco's name out there without sourcing, and he's certainly not doing it to screw us in the playoffs. Let's hope that the fact it's gotten to this point is a wake-up call to the administration and we still have the opportunity to act.
 
No statement from UR or Rocco despite continued chirping out of the first state is a very bad sign to me.
 
I don't particularly want to hear from Rocco. Not hearing from the admin is troubling but not surprising.
 
32counter said:
The Facilities at UD are minor league compared to our facilities.

Our resources are far greater than UD can even dream about.

The level of academic prowress comparison between the schools is a laugher.

The author for the Delaware rag needs a reality check so do some of our posters.

Apart from Mooney's salary which is a joke,how much does Mooney pay his assistants
in comparison to Danny's assistants?Anyone know?
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Why don't you post 15 or 20 links about this that none of the rest of us are capable of doing for ourself. Oh and BTW despite your continued condescending posts on the subject im afraid this may be a very serious situation. But I hope am wrong and you get to post next years links too.
 
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MolivaManiac said:
No statement from UR or Rocco despite continued chirping out of the first state is a very bad sign to me.
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The First State is an overgrown Chicken Farm with no cultural attributes
and which has nice beaches for 3 months a year,nice outlet shopping
and a home grown beer.Newark,DE is a wasteland of nothingness.The chirping from a writer on his Twitter account while representing a rag that nobody reads has no credibility since what he states is factually erroneous.
 
MacSpider said:
Why don't you post 15 or 20 links about this that none of the rest of us are capable of doing for ourself. Oh and BTW despite your continued condescending posts on the subject im afraid this may be a very serious situation. Sure hope I'm wrong and I get to look at many more of your links to Danny's press conferences.
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What he say?
 
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