Over/Under wins rest of season

[fan2011]

I rate him a 4 he hasn't had the single digit win season but he has squandered decent players, a great arena, and a well funded program. If you discount Mckillop's record because of Curry what about discounting Mooney's for KA. That leaves him with about a 500 average in A10 play.


Guys we were hoping for a Big East invite, where has that gone?

You are right, McKillop's only NCAA wins shouldn't be discounted because of Curry and Mooney's shouldn't be discounted because of KA.

I think it is hilarious that people on here think that one player is all it takes to get to the NCAAs. It takes an entire team and a coach to make it to the NCAAs. Look at LSU. They have the #1 draft pick on their team and they are sitting on the wrong side of the bubble. Look at Davidson Steph's junior year. After making the elite 8 the season before and they didn't make the NCAAs. One player alone is not enough. Also, KA was one of the best in the history of our program, but virtually every team that makes the sweet 16 has players of KA's caliber. Every coach needs a KA to make the sweet 16, not just Mooney.

 

[97spiderfan]

Another good adjective is irrelevant for our program. It is. We are irrelevant in our city because our rival keeps going to NCAA's while we are stuck in the perpetual mind. Nevermind, that the other university, had season ending injuries to star players, lost a whole recruiting class and the stud of their current freshman recruiting class and replaced their coach and still won the league last tourney last year and is exceeding expectations again this year.

Why can vcu and Dayton consistently make the NCAa's and we can't. Better than mediocre coaching I suspect

 

[fan2011]

Another good adjective is irrelevant for our program. It is. We are irrelevant in our city because our rival keeps going to NCAA's while we are stuck in the perpetual mind. Nevermind, that the other university, had season ending injuries to star players, lost a whole recruiting class and the stud of their current freshman recruiting class and replaced their coach and still won the league last tourney last year and is exceeding expectations again this year.

Why can vcu and Dayton consistently make the NCAa's and we can't. Better than mediocre coaching I suspect

You don't want to hear the answer. Both those schools can and have admitted partial and non-qualifiers. Both of those schools have much larger fan bases. Both of those schools pay as much or more for their coaches and facilities. Both of those schools are one bad hire away from irrelevance.

 

[Eight Legger]

VCU pays its coach less than we pay ours. Burgess is probably their worst player, and he's a partial qualifier. Do they have others who are getting lots of minutes?

 

[SpiderGuy]

You don't want to hear the answer. Both those schools can and have admitted partial and non-qualifiers. Both of those schools have much larger fan bases. Both of those schools pay as much or more for their coaches and facilities. Both of those schools are one bad hire away from irrelevance.

You're really digging there for justification.

Fan bases might pony up money, but they don't coach players. The buck stops at the top. We've got good fans, have sunk plenty into the RC, & pay the head coach more than any other coach in the conference (I believe). Bottom line - we continue to be the bridesmaid or not even that. No more excuses, deflections, and rationalizations.

 

[SpiderK]

VCU pays its coach less than we pay ours. Burgess is probably their worst player, and he's a partial qualifier. Do they have others who are getting lots of minutes?

Ali-Cox is a partial qualifier too.

 

[64Spider]

A little off topic but since K brought up Ali-Cox. The Times Disgrace article about him and some other player had graduated in 3 years. That is pretty fricking amazing, if true. Given all the demands of classes and practice and travel I think it's amazing that a college athlete makes it in 4 years.

 

[SpiderK]

A little off topic but since K brought up Ali-Cox. The Times Disgrace article about him and some other player had graduated in 3 years. That is pretty fricking amazing, if true. Given all the demands of classes and practice and travel I think it's amazing that a college athlete makes it in 4 years.

Yes he did it in 3 1/2 years. Will be working on a masters in criminal justice.

 

[Ulla1]

Wow! OSC

 

[urfan1]

don't forget these guys often stay all summer, so they can and often do take classes all summer.

 

[Ulla1]

Ali-Cox is a partial qualifier too.

Another, the Hamdy saga; may be collecting social security by the time he leaves vdu.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...igible-fault-advice-former-di-assistant-coach

 

[Ulla1]

Ali-Cox is a partial qualifier too.

The Corey Billbury story:

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsext...cle_64a89847-10dc-5c1e-9456-b849ba5dbcf9.html

 

[Ulla1]

Ali-Cox is a partial qualifier too.

The Samir Doughty story:

http://www.richmond.com/sports/college/basketball/article_f1183562-be6c-57f1-8ae7-1de2129f3b4e.html

 

[Ulla1]

Neither Hamdy, Billbury nor Doughty would have been able to attend UR. The Spiders recruit from a very different pond than outlaw schools such as vdu. OSC

 

[urmite]

Neither Hamdy, Billbury nor Doughty would have been able to attend UR. The Spiders recruit from a very different pond than outlaw schools such as vdu. OSC

I will say Billbury is in a different category. He violation of team rules was that his then fiancé (now wife) got pregnant. Not many schools nowadays would enforce that rule.

But you can add Nwankwo to the others who seem to have nebulous transcripts for one reason or another.

 

[bb3831]

I do not think there has been any violation of NCAA rules. Be smart Ulla, sounds like bulletin board material.

 

[I-M-UR]

I'd also want to go the dance more than the hippies but that's only part of the story. I think going every two or three years would keep our name in national public eye. If Creighton, Butler and Gonzaga or even Davidson and others can stay in the national lime light so can we.

 

[I-M-UR]

A little off topic but since K brought up Ali-Cox. The Times Disgrace article about him and some other player had graduated in 3 years. That is pretty fricking amazing, if true. Given all the demands of classes and practice and travel I think it's amazing that a college athlete makes it in 4 years.

Remember the biggest problem UR has is the small class size makes it impossible to hide, getting lesser students in is one issue keeping them in is the tougher part.

 

[Eight Legger]

Woe is us, we can't find 5 guys who can play basketball at the A-10 level, how can we ever be expected to compete for an NCAA bid ever again??

 

[SpiderK]

don't forget these guys often stay all summer, so they can and often do take classes all summer.

True, that's a fact

 

[64Spider]

But I thought Moe transferred in to VDU. Does that year so where else not count?

 

[urmite]

But I thought Moe transferred in to VDU. Does that year so where else not count?

Cox & Burgess came from High School. Each had to sit out one year athletically but attended VDU academically. For whatever reason, a NCAA mandated redshirt year.

It appears Doughty & Nwankwo are mandated to sit out this season. Hamdy may or may not be declared to get four Division 1 seasons.
Again, I do not know the reasons why.

This frequently happens with international athletes.

Look at Jose Garcia & AD Vassallo.

 

[CarolinaSpider]

I respect Ulla's un-waivering support for CM, that is his right and perspective to have as a fan.

I however, do not respect our athletic department leadership if they hold the same view though. It is there job to evaluate the product and progress of the basketball program and no one can objectively look at this and say "yep, we are right the path". Its not only been 5 years since the NCAA but we are seeing a coaching staff in their 11th year having difficult times making needed adjustments on a junior/senior laden team. And while, we all like our recruiting class next year, our freshman and sophomore class with the exception of Khwan Fore is nothing.

It is probably going to be another 2-3 years before we are "potentially competing" for an NCAA given that. And then it will be 7 years without an NCAA. Is that still OK? Not with me and if it is OK with you, why do you feel it is OK?

Amen, starting 3 Srs and 2 JR'S you should be hitting on all cylinders quickly. Losing at home the way we have has shown me that we are not a team of promise. 97 agree we are starting over next year. I personally feel teams are so use to our match up zone, it is not a threat and this year we just do not have fundlemently good defensive tacticians and they are upperclassmen. The best defender is a red shirt freshman.

I do not want moral victories cause we lost by few points. I don't see enthusiasm in coaches for there is little emotion. I had rather see stomping, yelling and clapping.

There is no excuse for what has taken place this season and I love the Spiders but I have a right to question why a 11 year coach who has an upperclassmen laden team cannot have them playing at a higher level.