NBA Summer League 2023 - Gilly and Golden

[SFspidur]

I don't know if we need a new thread or not, but they don't cost anything so here we are.

I mentioned in the Gilly NBA thread that he's on the Grizz Summer League roster, and now Grant is officially on the Nuggets' Summer League roster.

DENVER NUGGETS ANNOUNCE 2023 NBA SUMMER LEAGUE ROSTER AND MINI-CAMP SCHEDULE

www.nba.com

The Grizz are in the Salt Lake summer league event, playing a round robin July 3–6 against OKC, Philly, and Utah. They'll then head to Vegas for the main Summer League July 7–17. The Nuggets aren't playing in an early event and will instead hold their own mini-camp before heading to Vegas.

In Vegas, each team plays four games, with the top 4 then playing semis and a final for the championship. The other 26 teams will get matched up to give them all a fifth game.

 

[SFspidur]

Gilly started tonight in a close win over Philly. Only had six points on 2-of-7 shooting, but did have 7 assists and 3 steals.

Grizzlies 94-92 76ers (Jul 3, 2023) Final Score - ESPN

Game summary of the Memphis Grizzlies vs. Philadelphia 76ers Nba-summer-utah game, final score 94-92, from July 3, 2023 on ESPN.

www.espn.com

 

[UR80sfan]

Gilly tonight had 7 steals, 6 assist, 4 rebounds and 10 points. 7 steals in 29 minutes is impressive.

 

[spider23]

I watched a good bit of this game. Gilly played great. Chet Holmgren looked to try to take his man of the dribble in Gilly's vicinity, that did not end well.

 

[SFspidur]

His 7 steals were a Summer League record.

 

[spiderman]

it happens so quick in real time, but look how clean this was! amazing hands.

 

[fan2011]

I believe you can watch Gilyard's game tonight on espn+

 

[SFspidur]

I believe you can watch Gilyard's game tonight on espn+

Except he's not playing...all the starters are riding the bench so the rest of the roster can get some good time on the floor.

Not super surprising given it's a back-to-back wrapping up the SLC preview event and they'll be kicking off the real Summer League on Saturday.

 

[SFspidur]

14 minutes off the bench for Grant tonight in a Nuggets loss. 6 point on perfect 3-for-3 from the field plus an impressive 5 assists, a couple of boards, and a steal.

 

[SFspidur]

Grizz finish strong to get the 87–80 win over the Bulls in their first game in Vegas. Gilly with 11 points on perfect shooting from the field including three triples. Also had 8 assists and 3 boards, but only one steal. Was also an uncharacteristic 0-for-3 from the line including missing a pair with ~20 seconds left.

 

[SFspidur]

Nuggets fall to 0–2, and Grant didn't get on the court as the Nuggets wanted Simms to get some minutes.

 

[SpiderTrap]

I got to imagine the Ja Morant suspension helps Gilyard and maybe he can make the roster of get a call up as the Grizz try to manage the first part of the season without Morant.

 

[SFspidur]

He can be active for up 50 of their 82 games.

Smart and Rose give them two solid options at PG even with Ja out, but obviously early in the season is when Gilly will have the most opportunity with only two guys in front of him instead of three.

Unclear how much time he will spend called up...I'm sure the Grizz would rather have him getting floor time with the Hustle than riding the bench with the Grizz. Obviously any sort of injury (even a minor one) to Smart or Rose gives him a really good chance at some time.

 

[SpiderTrap]

Agreed that got Rose and Smart, but one small injury and maybe gets a call up for 10 days. And Rose is usually limited in minutes anyways, so maybe they Gilly makes it on team as 12th man, rides the bench and when load management kicks in for Rose - he gets to play.

Something to keep an eye on

 

[PASpider]

Either way, great to see both of them playing great and taking advantage of the opportunities they’ve been given.

 

[SFspidur]

Ugly game for the Grizz tonight, blown out by the Cavs. Gilly was back to starting and had only 6 points on 2-for-6 from deep. Did have 5 assists 4 boards, a block, and only 1 turnover though. No steals.

Grizzlies 77-100 Cavaliers (Jul 10, 2023) Box Score - ESPN

Box score for the Memphis Grizzlies vs. Cleveland Cavaliers Nba-summer-las-vegas game from July 10, 2023 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.

www.espn.com

 

[SpiderTrap]

Grant might have a chance as well to move up - not sure what Nuggets are plannign with DeAndre Jordan - but he is up in age, and now that Nuggets won the title, and Jordan is a free agent and was really only other big man on the roster for Center at least. Maybe Grant gets a call up this year to fill in - much cheaper than Jordan's 3-4 million per year for sure.

 

[SouthJerseySpiderFan]

Grant might have a chance as well to move up - not sure what Nuggets are plannign with DeAndre Jordan - but he is up in age, and now that Nuggets won the title, and Jordan is a free agent and was really only other big man on the roster for Center at least. Maybe Grant gets a call up this year to fill in - much cheaper than Jordan's 3-4 million per year for sure.

Saw Jordan for 76ers few year back in limited games and he looked washed up then. Also thought Rose was done after downward turn in his game last year for Knicks. Probably both cheap enough options that if GG and Jacob prove dependable backups they could both be easily waived. Let's hope so!

 

[97spiderfan]

Saw Jordan for 76ers few year back in limited games and he looked washed up then. Also thought Rose was done after downward turn in his game last year for Knicks. Probably both cheap enough options that if GG and Jacob prove dependable backups they could both be easily waived. Let's hope so!

Agreed, Jordan is completely washed. Teams usually keep an elder statesman type of player on the roster for leadership/mentorship, maybe Jordan is that for the Nuggets. Something Udonis Haslem for the Heat. Guy is like drawing social security at this point.

 

[spiderman]

and you don't have to change your entire offense going from Jokic to Golden like you do going from Jokic to Jordan.

 

[SpiderTrap]

Agreed, Jordan is completely washed. Teams usually keep an elder statesman type of player on the roster for leadership/mentorship, maybe Jordan is that for the Nuggets. Something Udonis Haslem for the Heat. Guy is like drawing social security at this point.

Agree - but that is where I wonder now that they won the title, got the ring and got the experience - do they waive off Jordan and move on from him or do they keep him around.

Not like Grant takes Jordan's spot and starts playing backup center minutes, but would at least give Grant experience playing with and against (in practice) Jokic.

 

[spider23]

Grant Golden bringing Nikola Jokic-like approach to Denver Nuggets' Summer League squad

Grant Golden has a name and a game that fits the Denver Nuggets.

denvergazette.com

I thought the summer league coach could have laid off of one or two poors in this quote

“Really good passer, man,” Nuggets Summer League coach John Beckett said after Thursday’s practice. “He’s like a poor, poor, poor man’s Nikola."

 

[SFspidur]

Grizzlies fall to the Clippers in an early game. Gilly with no points on only one shot attempt, but had 7 boards, 6 assists, 2 steals, and a block.

Clippers 83-74 Grizzlies (Jul 12, 2023) Box Score - ESPN

Box score for the LA Clippers vs. Memphis Grizzlies Nba-summer-las-vegas game from July 12, 2023 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.

www.espn.com

 

[SFspidur]

Another rough game for the Nuggets, down by 20 at the half and by as much as 26. Came back some, but every time they it close to or under 10, the Jazz had an answer until the final minute when the Nuggets got the final margin down to 5 on a 3 at the buzzer to beat the spread.

Only 7 minutes for Grant, 1-for-1 from the field with a nice jump hook across the top of the lane in the closing seconds of the first quarter. Not sure why he didn’t get more time than that.

 

[PalmTreeSpidUR]

How wrong is it for me to be more interested in/excited by this topic than all of the other ongoing discussions (basketball and football) combined?

 

[Section9.RowD]

 

[SFspidur]

Dominating win for Gilly and the Grizz last night over the Lakers. Only 6 points for Gilly on 2-for-4 from deep, but 7 assists, 3 steals, a couple of boards, and only 1 turnover in only 22 minutes.

Grizzlies 100-69 Lakers (Jul 14, 2023) Box Score - ESPN

Box score for the Memphis Grizzlies vs. Los Angeles Lakers Nba-summer-las-vegas game from July 14, 2023 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.

www.espn.com

Meanwhile, the Nuggets destroyed the Heat, although again Grant only saw limited time (9 minutes) but made the most of it with a perfect 3-for-3 from the field. Only one board and a couple of turnovers though.

Heat 81-112 Nuggets (Jul 14, 2023) Box Score - ESPN

Box score for the Miami Heat vs. Denver Nuggets Nba-summer-las-vegas game from July 14, 2023 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.

www.espn.com

Grant leads Summer League with a 100% FG percentage on 7 shots. None of the other 8 guys at 100% have taken more than 2 shots.

2023 Summer League | Vegas | Player Stats | NBA.com

2023 Summer League | Vegas | Player Stats

www.nba.com

 

[SFspidur]

Nuggets built to a 21-point lead over the Knicks late in the third quarter of their final Summer League game, but immediately gave up a 21–2 run to tighten things right back up. Back-and-forth game over the final 6 minutes, and the Nuggets survived a three attempt at the buzzer to get the 89–86 win.

Grant got 24 minutes off the bench and had 8 points on 4-of-8 shooting but missed two shots in the final 100 seconds that would have been really nice to have, including a reverse layup attempt right at the rim with 32 seconds left. He also had 7 boards, 4 assists, a steal, and no turnovers.

Gilly and the Grizz coming up around the bottom of the hour. It's Spiders Night at the Thomas and Mack Center.

Nuggets 89-86 Knicks (Jul 15, 2023) Box Score - ESPN

Box score for the Denver Nuggets vs. New York Knicks Nba-summer-las-vegas game from July 15, 2023 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.

www.espn.com

 

[SFspidur]

No Gilly tonight. Grizzlies are sitting all of their usual starters to give the rest of the guys some run.

 

[SFspidur]

Nuggets are signing big man Jay Huff to a two-way deal, which obviously isn't great for Grant.

It also looks like Dethorna out of the top Italian league is interested in him if he's considering that route.

Bertram Tortona, occhi su Grant Golden - Sportando

Il Derthona è ancora alla ricerca di un pivot per completare il roster

sportando-basketball.translate.goog

 

[SFspidur]

Grant is indeed headed to the Italian Serie A, although not to the team that was originally rumored. He'll be joining Vanoli Cremona, which is being re-promoted to Serie A after a one-year stint relegated to Serie A2.

And remember that Terry Allen will also be playing in this league with Treviso.

I'm sure this was a difficult decision for Grant. After his performance in G League last year, I'd hoped he might get a shot at some time in the NBA, but moving to Europe obviously makes that less likely.

Grant Golden è un nuovo giocatore della Vanoli Cremona 23/24 - Vanoli Basket Cremona

Vanoli Basket Cremona comunica di aver sottoscritto un contratto per la stagione 2023/2024 con il centro americano Grant Golden. “Non vedo l’ora di giocare in Serie A, sono molto contento di essere un giocatore di un grande club come la Vanoli Cremona” Grant Golden è nato il 15 gennaio 1998 a...

www.vanolibasket.it

 

[Eight Legger]

Vanoli Cremona sounds like a delicious place to play.

 

[SFspidur]

Grant has arrived in Italy.

Vanoli Cremona, ecco Grant Golden: Fiero del mio IQ e della capacità di passare la palla - Sportando

Il big man: «Non sono la persona più atletica del mondo quindi devo trovare nuove strade per arrivare al tiro: sicuramente faccio molte cose “old school” che provo a implementare per aiutarmi nel mio gioco»

sportando-basketball.translate.goog

 

[spiderman]

is his contract public info?

 

[SFspidur]

I don't think so, but reportedly most guys in Serie A are in the $150k–$350k range with the biggest stars topping out at around $2 million.

 

[SFspidur]

So Grant's rights have been traded from Grand Rapids to the Cleveland Charge. I'm not sure how that meshes with him currently playing in Italy. The Serie A season kicks off on October 1 and runs through May.

 

[spiderman]

Dan Geriot coached the Cleveland Charge from 2021-2022.
think he's still with Cleveland somewhere.

 

[Section9.RowD]

Was a bit surprised to noticed recently that Jacob Gilyard seems to have removed his Twitter and IG account .. doubt this means anything but found a touch odd.

 

[SFspidur]

Was a bit surprised to noticed recently that Jacob Gilyard seems to have removed his Twitter and IG account .. doubt this means anything but found a touch odd.

Pretty sure I know the reason, but I wouldn't read too much into it in terms of broader picture. Just protecting himself a bit I think.

 

[Section9.RowD]

Pretty sure I know the reason, but I wouldn't read too much into it in terms of broader picture. Just protecting himself a bit I think.

good - thx ..