Mooney

[spider fan]

fwiw - All time NCAA bids - PL 53, A-10 145

Davidson has had 13 bids - that ties them with Holy Cross who has had the most PL bids. St. Joe's leads the A-10 with 21 bids and the Spiders have had 9 bids. The only A-10 team to win the NCAA tournament is LaSalle who won in 1954 which was before the A-10 was founded. No member of the A-10 has won the national championship as a league member. Three A-10 teams have made the Final Four - the other two state of Virginia teams in 2011 and 2006 and Mass appeared in the Final Four in 1996 but that appearance was later vacated.

 

[MrTbone]

I don't understand the backlash to Crutcher, the guy is eminently qualified and by all accounts was heads above the other candidates that were considered for the job, at least based on what I know which is at least reasonably sourced from UR staff.

I think this is just dead season chatter that wouldn't last if we had more interesting topics to rant about.

 

[iSpider]

Let's be frank here. Anyone who has any familiarity with our school and it's long history would conclude that the Crutcher presidency was based on a rare opportunity for a buttoned-up, conservative, southern, Wonder Bread institution to make a major statement regarding diversity. At least that is the way I saw it when it was first announced. I do hope I am wrong, and the University makes major strides under Dr. Crutcher over the next five years.

Excellent response regarding the University's agenda, an agenda with which I agree. I do not see it as the same as Dr. Crutcher's agenda as to which I have not "observed" any evidence of a fall back to the agenda of Dr. Cooper with respect to joining the Patriot League or some of the things suggested by some others. The only point you suggest with which I cannot agree is that a statement regarding diversity is mutually exclusive with "[making] major strides" in other areas. And while I yet have no clue as to what 64Spider was suggesting in his unshared perception, knowledge and wisdom as to Dr. Crutcher's agenda, I suspect that it had nothing specific to do with athletics, pro or con, but rather was intended as a suggestion that Dr. Crutcher has taken the job at UR for some untoward reason and will "use" UR to do nothing but grow old and travel in his retirement. If, indeed, this is 64Spider's implication, I disagree.

That said, and more to the points raised above, times have changed and though I was a very vocal part of the opposition to Cooper with respect to joining the Patriot League and would be opposed today to joining the PL for basketball, I would not be opposed to joining the PL for all other sports with the exception of Basketball as long as we could take along William & Mary and Villanova.

Since the Cooper era the Patriot League has added scholarships for football and continue to play football at a high level. It's just a matter of time before JMU joins the likes of ODU at a perceived "higher level." The CAA has done little for the league except add a few non-quality football partners. With UR, W&M and Nova in the PL, the PL would be superior to the CAA in football and other sports such as lacrosse and, perhaps, even baseball. Further, the schools of the Patriot League have vastly more in common with us academically than those teams that would remain in the CAA. There may be reasons of which I am not aware which might make such a move undesirable, and I welcome the opinions and knowledge of others on this board of such reasons.

 

[wr70beh]

Excellent response regarding the University's agenda, an agenda with which I agree. I do not see it as the same as Dr. Crutcher's agenda as to which I have not "observed" any evidence of a fall back to the agenda of Dr. Cooper with respect to joining the Patriot League or some of the things suggested by some others. The only point you suggest with which I cannot agree is that a statement regarding diversity is mutually exclusive with "[making] major strides" in other areas. And while I yet have no clue as to what 64Spider was suggesting in his unshared perception, knowledge and wisdom as to Dr. Crutcher's agenda, I suspect that it had nothing specific to do with athletics, pro or con, but rather was intended as a suggestion that Dr. Crutcher has taken the job at UR for some untoward reason and will "use" UR to do nothing but grow old and travel in his retirement. If, indeed, this is 64Spider's implication, I disagree.

That said, and more to the points raised above, times have changed and though I was a very vocal part of the opposition to Cooper with respect to joining the Patriot League and would be opposed today to joining the PL for basketball, I would not be opposed to joining the PL for all other sports with the exception of Basketball as long as we could take along William & Mary and Villanova.

Since the Cooper era the Patriot League has added scholarships for football and continue to play football at a high level. It's just a matter of time before JMU joins the likes of ODU at a perceived "higher level." The CAA has done little for the league except add a few non-quality football partners. With UR, W&M and Nova in the PL, the PL would be superior to the CAA in football and other sports such as lacrosse and, perhaps, even baseball. Further, the schools of the Patriot League have vastly more in common with us academically than those teams that would remain in the CAA. There may be reasons of which I am not aware which might make such a move undesirable, and I welcome the opinions and knowledge of others on this board of such reasons.

I don't think you can be in one league for hoops and another league for all of your other non-rev sports if they're offered in those conferences. Otherwise it's a good idea.

 

[iSpider]

Now that is a quote I can use "the exuberance of your own verbosity" - just don't tell that to your spouse...............................

If you use the phrase, especially in one of your sermons, unlike 64 Spider, please give credit to its author, Benjamin Disraeli, used in describing Prime Minister Gladstone:

"A sophistical rhetorician, inebriated with the exuberance of his own verbosity, and gifted with an egotistical imagination that can at all times command an interminable and inconsistent series of arguments to malign an opponent and to glorify himself."

Attribution: Benjamin Disraeli (1804-1881), British statesman, author. Speech, July 27, 1878, Knightsbridge, London. Quoted in Times (London, July 29, 1878). Referring to Prime Minister Gladstone. On another occasion, Disraeli said of Gladstone, "He has not a single redeeming defect."

 

[WebSpinner]

i, in what age group do you reside? not specific but under 20, 25-30, 30-45, 45-65, real old? where were you born and raised, state would suffice?

 

[kneepadmckinney]

Pretty sure Disraeli was talking about Trump.

 

[iSpider]

i, in what age group do you reside? not specific but under 20, 25-30, 30-45, 45-65, real old? where were you born and raised, state would suffice?

I reside in Under 40.
Born in Madison, Wisconsin. Spent wonder years there. Prep school (MSA), college (UR) and grad school UVA) in Virginia.
Mother's family from Virginia. Father, a die-hard Badger, and Cheesehead.
Et tu vis ou? Don't answer that. It was rhetorical.
Planet X is 29.7604° N, 95.3698° W.
You downtown or environs? I had the pleasure of staying in Sugar Land for a few weeks about six years ago. Regret that I never visited Galveston while so nearby.

 

[WebSpinner]

thanks i, obviously you did not have to do that and would not have held anything against you if you had said go to ..........

am out near katy, west of houston although my address is houston and did that to be close to my grand kids who i spend most of my time with these days. was looking to retire to a beach, nc, sc, fl but ended up here. once the kiddos don't want to be with me and my wife any longer, will then move to the beach, if we are still able at that point. the kids do keep me young and really nice to spoil them and then take them back to mom and dad. took the boys to an astros game and they got to run the bases after the game and they loved it and want to return. usually get to several astros, rockets and maybe one texans game and then to several college football games as well. having fun, still healthy and blessed.

 

[iSpider]

thanks i, obviously you did not have to do that and would not have held anything against you if you had said go to ..........

am out near katy, west of houston although my address is houston and did that to be close to my grand kids who i spend most of my time with these days. was looking to retire to a beach, nc, sc, fl but ended up here. once the kiddos don't want to be with me and my wife any longer, will then move to the beach, if we are still able at that point. the kids do keep me young and really nice to spoil them and then take them back to mom and dad. took the boys to an astros game and they got to run the bases after the game and they loved it and want to return. usually get to several astros, rockets and maybe one texans game and then to several college football games as well. having fun, still healthy and blessed.

No problem. Sounds like you are living the "good" life. Am sure that you have earned it. Hope to be there someday myself.

 

[WebSpinner]

tell you what, takes some planning, takes some sacrifice and as obama stated, being lucky although feel mostly planning and not having that new car or that huge house. help others but take care of yourself and your future.

while on that, URGE, all of you on here if you have not already, to get POA, power of attorney, on all family members, particularly your mom and dad or aunts and uncles who have no kids. went through some trying times with some aunts we took care of, one without POA, without a will, one with both. night and day and believe me, very expensive to handle someone's life and then death without those documents. also, most definitely have a ROTH IRA, when you retire, a great thing to have.