“The history Coach Mooney has with his bigs during his 18-year tenure is crazy,” Reed said on his commitment. “Their development is crazy. The usage rate for their centers is really high. A lot of their bigs have gone on to achieve accolades and play professionally which is something that I would want to do.” [...]
“I wanted to have a great relationship with the head coach because he is the one calling all the shots,” Reed said. “I spoke to Coach Mooney a lot and also Will Gipe. My parents love him and I love him. The relationship I have been able to build with them has been great. I really trust him with my skills.” [...]
When asked what he plans on bringing to the program, Reed says, "They are going to get shooting for sure. I am hoping to be the best three-point shooting center they have had. They are also going to get a guy who is a great scorer in the low and high posts. I am a capable passer, a good finisher around the rim, and a great leader.”
Gipe. Killing it.Just going to throw out there that Gipe liked Reed’s tweet. Here’s hoping he knows the decision already and that it’s a good sign.
#InGipeWeTrust
#WhereTheresAWillGipeTheresAWay
Was this a Gipe recruit? And if so - is it me or am I dreaming - but Gipe seems to be hitting the recruiting trail hard......You cannot defeat Gipe either.
Have always wanted to see Spiders/Butler game .. hopefully will happen in the years ahead.Classy comment by Bizjack
Bad take. Can’t be annoyed when we miss key recruits and then also say it doesn’t matter as we don’t know enough about them to be happy about it.This is exciting news, but lets not forget - all HS kids are stars until they step on campus. We are no different than every other school - excited about the future. The key to keep this going - we need another solid year this year - we need to be in NCAA conversation and can do no worse than NIT. This keeps some excitement around the program for the recruits coming in, but also potential transfers from portal and future HS recruits.
Ok that’s all fair.I am saying it does matter. I much rather get kids highly rated as I think you have a much better payout of them panning out to be good players. Are all ratings and services perfect - no way. But I much rather get highly rated kids as I think the chance of them working out is better than getting a bulk of underrated kids and hoping they develop.
My point is - we always say things on this board - that in reality are not true. Like we always say before the season - this will be a deep team, we got good depth - but in reality - we never really play more than 7 key guys. We always say the recruit we snabbed is going to be great - but in reality - they can't all play (we only play 7 guys). I hope Reed turns out to be stud and I like that he might be one of the highest rated guys we get - that is exciting, and hopefully it leads to more highly rated guys. But in order for that to happen - and to keep these guys coming - you need to keep winning, which is why we need another big year this year to keep last year's momentum going.
Gipe might be able to sell Ice to the eskimos. But if the ice is half melted (we are not making NCAA tourney's on the regular) - the eskimos will look for the better ice.
So the answer to to saying things are “aren’t true” is to say something that is obvious to all.My point is - we always say things on this board - that in reality are not true. Like we always say before the season - this will be a deep team, we got good depth - but in reality - we never really play more than 7 key guys. We always say the recruit we snabbed is going to be great - but in reality - they can't all play (we only play 7 guys). ….. But in order for that to happen - and to keep these guys coming - you need to keep winning, which is why we need another big year this year to keep last year's momentum going.
Gipe might be able to sell Ice to the eskimos. But if the ice is half melted (we are not making NCAA tourney's on the regular) - the eskimos will look for the better ice.
personally, when I say we're deep I'm talking depth of talent. we are deep. deeper than we usually have been.Like we always say before the season - this will be a deep team, we got good depth - but in reality - we never really play more than 7 key guys. We always say the recruit we snabbed is going to be great - but in reality - they can't all play (we only play 7 guys).
I’m not sure if there’s an autocorrect here or if you just made up a new word:We always say the recruit we snabbed is going to be great - but in reality - they can't all play (we only play 7 guys).
I don't know if we can back that far on the board, but I am willing to bet after we made back to back NCAA appearances, sweet 16, and Harper gets drafted in the first round - we were excited on this board about our incoming recruits. That class was - Kendall Anthony, Wayne Sparrow, Trey Davis, Luke P, and Alonzo Nelson-Ododa. I got a feeling we were all excited about this class - knowing we lost a lot, and maybe would take a year to build back up (we did have Brothers, Garrett, Williams, Martel, and Duinker returning) - we just never did.So the answer to to saying things are “aren’t true” is to say something that is obvious to all.
The other thing that happens on this board is finding fault with everything. I have been critical of various things, but this off-season definitely isn’t something to throw stones at. This doesn’t mean that the team is perfect or is going to the NCAAs, but I think the Spiders have a good shot at the NIT this year and the recruiting is greatly improved since I started following the team closely.
There is no question that the staff has to keep up the momentum, but by my account that is exactly what has happened - unlike what happened the last time the Spiders made the dance.
You defended your point well. Thank you.I don't know if we can back that far on the board, but I am willing to bet after we made back to back NCAA appearances, sweet 16, and Harper gets drafted in the first round - we were excited on this board about our incoming recruits. That class was - Kendall Anthony, Wayne Sparrow, Trey Davis, Luke P, and Alonzo Nelson-Ododa. I got a feeling we were all excited about this class - knowing we lost a lot, and maybe would take a year to build back up (we did have Brothers, Garrett, Williams, Martel, and Duinker returning) - we just never did.
But I am also willing to bet most of those guys were recruited with little ranking behind it - whereas this year we seem to be getting players recruited and regarded by others. I am excited about our offseason so far. Step 1 and probably the most important step is getting players. You can be the best coach in the world - but if you don't have good players - it will not make a difference anymore. But we have recruited what we think will be good players, but we can't repeat what happen after that back to back year where we went 16-16 the next season, and then followed that up with 19-15 record - those are two nothing years and they hurt recruiting.
But I agree - we appear to be in position to reload, and not rebuild. And it starts with snabbing good players.
Terry Henderson, WVU and NC ST?So correct me if I'm wrong, but after the 2011 NCAA appearance, the 2011-2012 recruiting class you list above (Kendall, etc) would have already been in place. But then for 2012 - with an NCAA appearance in pocket and a team ranked in the top 25 during the 2012-13 season, Moon missed out on 3 primary recruits - AWIII, Marshall Wood and the kid who flamed out at WVa and elsewhere. We landed Deion and Terry Allen and had a scholarship left open IIRC. So that was the year where Moon did not capitalize I think was the general feeling.
According to 247, Matt Reed and Trevor Smith are the 2 highest rated recruits for Richmond in that past ~15 years. https://247sports.com/college/richmond/Sport/Basketball/AllTimeRecruits/I don't know if we can back that far on the board, but I am willing to bet after we made back to back NCAA appearances, sweet 16, and Harper gets drafted in the first round - we were excited on this board about our incoming recruits. That class was - Kendall Anthony, Wayne Sparrow, Trey Davis, Luke P, and Alonzo Nelson-Ododa. I got a feeling we were all excited about this class - knowing we lost a lot, and maybe would take a year to build back up (we did have Brothers, Garrett, Williams, Martel, and Duinker returning) - we just never did.
But I am also willing to bet most of those guys were recruited with little ranking behind it - whereas this year we seem to be getting players recruited and regarded by others. I am excited about our offseason so far. Step 1 and probably the most important step is getting players. You can be the best coach in the world - but if you don't have good players - it will not make a difference anymore. But we have recruited what we think will be good players, but we can't repeat what happen after that back to back year where we went 16-16 the next season, and then followed that up with 19-15 record - those are two nothing years and they hurt recruiting.
But I agree - we appear to be in position to reload, and not rebuild. And it starts with snabbing good players.
I like they have both score and rank. Similar to Merritt & ANO, Vs Wilson & Sal who had score but lower rank.According to 247, Matt Reed and Trevor Smith are the 2 highest rated recruits for Richmond in that past ~15 years. https://247sports.com/college/richmond/Sport/Basketball/AllTimeRecruits/
Of course, if you showed me those 247 rankings without telling me what they were I might guess it is Richmond commits in random order.
I want to know what crazy methods they are using to get scores out to 4 significant figures. That is some incredible precision.I like they have both score and rank. Similar to Merritt & ANO, Vs Wilson & Sal who had score but lower rank.
makes no sense that the 16-16 and 19-15 years hurt recruiting when we had just made the dance 2 out of 4 years. the Piotrowski, ANO, Davis and Anthony class was a MONSTER class with a ton of high major offers. the best of them (Anthony) was the least thought of. everyone was wrong on Luke. ANO was solid but not as great as expected. Davis was good but a not-shooter.I don't know if we can back that far on the board, but I am willing to bet after we made back to back NCAA appearances, sweet 16, and Harper gets drafted in the first round - we were excited on this board about our incoming recruits. That class was - Kendall Anthony, Wayne Sparrow, Trey Davis, Luke P, and Alonzo Nelson-Ododa. I got a feeling we were all excited about this class - knowing we lost a lot, and maybe would take a year to build back up (we did have Brothers, Garrett, Williams, Martel, and Duinker returning) - we just never did.
But I am also willing to bet most of those guys were recruited with little ranking behind it - whereas this year we seem to be getting players recruited and regarded by others. I am excited about our offseason so far. Step 1 and probably the most important step is getting players. You can be the best coach in the world - but if you don't have good players - it will not make a difference anymore. But we have recruited what we think will be good players, but we can't repeat what happen after that back to back year where we went 16-16 the next season, and then followed that up with 19-15 record - those are two nothing years and they hurt recruiting.
But I agree - we appear to be in position to reload, and not rebuild. And it starts with snabbing good players.
Wow! I don't think we've ever been that high at any point in time on a recruiting list during Mooney's tenure or maybe ever. Impressive.Don't look now and don't put much stock in these. But a top 25 recruiting class right now.
I wonder how deeply did they rank players before Mooney? Was there a player ranked 400-500?Wow! I don't think we've ever been that high at any point in time on a recruiting list during Mooney's tenure or maybe ever. Impressive.
Yes, 170-220 seems to have worked out for us. Going after #70 with #420 as a backup plan did not.I believe that is our wheelhouse - guys ranked 150 - 200 on these sites. As noted, The AW3, Henderson, marshall wood strikeout left us in a bad place. I am definitely not opposed to going after the top 100 type guys, but just seems like the resource (time mostly) to chase those guys has to impact your ability to sign these type of guys. By prioritizing the other guys it seems to be a good strategy - this year anyway and as sman noted we have had a pretty good run last few years. I also like that we are hammering home the way we use the big men, and allow them touches and to actually make plays. Other schools can "sell" this, but when you break out the tape (and the usage numbers as Reed pointed out) we can show this all day long. Good stuff.