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Lasalle game thread following Philly post Super Bowl depression ..

There is no one who will objectively discuss it. No reporters truly cover the team with any type of critical eye. So this stuff is just allowed to happen unchecked for 18 years.

The thing too is it would be a very normal game management question to ask. But if our media doesn’t even know we r 8-23 vs. VCU u can’t expect much.
 
Tyler needs to get his head out of his a$$ and start playing like a team player. This may be worst
shooting team we have had since Mooney’s first couple years. We stand around too much and 90%
of the time we seemed just go right. I honestly don’t see any more wins the rest of the season. When
you have no guards who are a threat to score outside, defenses can cut the lane off. Matt Grace needed
to be our primary outside threat. Quinn may have been high scorer but how many snow bunnies did he miss?
 
Tyler needs to get his head out of his a$$ and start playing like a team player. This may be worst
shooting team we have had since Mooney’s first couple years. We stand around too much and 90%
of the time we seemed just go right. I honestly don’t see any more wins the rest of the season. When
you have no guards who are a threat to score outside, defenses can cut the lane off. Matt Grace needed
to be our primary outside threat. Quinn may have been high scorer but how many snow bunnies did he miss?
Fire Mooney first before you blame the players. Our season are usually like this so I'm not going to blame the players, imma blame the bozo in a suit.
 
All of this is accurate, but as per usual, the coach is the one who dictates the style of play, the tempo of play, who plays and when. It all falls on him. There's nothing wrong with the talent of our players. It's not the most talented team in the league, but look at the teams that are in the top 4 and tell me the right coach couldn't have us there? I don't think you can.
Disagree...a real coach could've made 3 of our Ls....Ws...that would make us 9-5 in the league...top 4
 
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Fire Mooney first before you blame the players. Our season are usually like this so I'm not going to blame the players, imma blame the bozo in a suit.
I bent agree. The buck stops with Mooney but the team he recruited stinks, poor effort, not thinking, and frankly don’t seem to care. Mooney must go and if the players leave as well….oh well. It’s too talented a bunch to be this horrible.
 
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All of this is accurate, but as per usual, the coach is the one who dictates the style of play, the tempo of play, who plays and when. It all falls on him. There's nothing wrong with the talent of our players. It's not the most talented team in the league, but look at the teams that are in the top 4 and tell me the right coach couldn't have us there? I don't think you can.
This is where we differ. At some point, players on the court have to make plays. Yes, they are recruited by Mooney, and coached by Mooney in practice. But at some point there has to be accountability on the court. The horrible Goose fouls at the end of games. Missing wide open shots. Quinn bricking a layup against GW. Like, make a effing winning play.

I am not intending to deflect all blame away from Mooney, but it doesn't ALL fall on him.
 
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This is where we differ. At some point, players on the court have to make plays. Yes, they are recruited by Mooney, and coached by Mooney in practice. But at some point there has to be accountability on the court. The horrible Goose fouls at the end of games. Missing wide open shots. Quinn bricking a layup against GW. Like, make a effing winning play.

I am not intending to deflect all blame away from Mooney, but it doesn't ALL fall on him.
I agree Kneepad but it has also been this way for most of Mooney's 18 years in end of game execution and guys making game winning plays.

Also, it is on Mooney for his player personnel and plays he runs at the end of games. As you noted, Goose has had numerous horrible end of game fouls, but yet he is still in there. Has Tyler made a game winning shot all year, but yet we still run our end of game plays to get him the ball. The only winning play we made this year was Roche's shot against Duquesne, which was a completely busted play after Tyler nearly traveled and fell down.

But yes, one of these guys needs to step and make an effing play, I couldn't agree more.
 
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I think we should have seen more Zay, Dji and Marcus in the 2nd. Even with Marcus's T he could have came back to help us. They went to five guard lineup and we didn't adjust and kept pretty much the same lineup in the game until 56 sec left. But I agree 97 and what others are saying, guys that are out there have to make plays...they didn't and guys that were on the bench that I thought could have negated some of LaSalles athleticism stayed on the bench until it was too late...just my 2 cents.
 
I think we should have seen more Zay, Dji and Marcus in the 2nd. Even with Marcus's T he could have came back to help us. They went to five guard lineup and we didn't adjust and kept pretty much the same lineup in the game until 56 sec left. But I agree 97 and what others are saying, guys that are out there have to make plays...they didn't and guys that were on the bench that I thought could have negated some of LaSalles athleticism stayed on the bench until it was too late...just my 2 cents.
"and we didn't adjust"

Spot on for last night.

This could be used on various occasions & in different scenarios this seasons and in others, Adaptability & adjusting are critical to staying in a game and on top of games. CM is hell bent on maintaining approaches that have been shown to fail.
 
Well, I have seen enough cases where players look much much better with a different coach. A coach that puts them in the best positions to make positive plays, a coach that has them read to play each game, a coach that inspires and injects confidence in his players, a coach that can out scheme his counterpart, a coach that adapts, a coach that hates to lose, a coach that has to win, a coach that does not settle, a coach that does understands when to call a time out, a coach .......

You get my point. Yes, players have to make plays. Much easier with a good coach.
 
CM is hell bent on maintaining approaches that have been shown to fail.
Mooney has several issues that make him a 55% percentage coach, but this is perhaps the most infuriating. Even more infuriating is that he has a whole host of assistant coaches who are either completely unempowered or I suppose complicit in these decisions. It is hard to imagine that a whole staff of highly compensated coaches could be that willfully silent to some of these issues. It's like they don't even debrief after these losses and say, geez that didn't work, lets not do that again and try something different. Instead they double down and say it didn't work but next time it will.
 
I could be wrong, but that critical turnover near the end of the game, didn't that occur when we had no point guard in the game? I realize it was only our fifth turnover of the game, but still.
Yes, and it was a killer 😢 on 2nd thought maybe Goose was in but still.
 
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Yes, and it was a killer 😢 on 2nd thought maybe Goose was in but still.
Goose is not a point guard in my opinion. He is a two guard, who can bring the the ball up the court. Our PG's are Nelson, Dji, and Randolph. Those are guys who can initiate the offense (although admittedly we have had significant difficulties with doing that this year).
 
I agree Kneepad but it has also been this way for most of Mooney's 18 years in end of game execution and guys making game winning plays.

Also, it is on Mooney for his player personnel and plays he runs at the end of games. As you noted, Goose has had numerous horrible end of game fouls, but yet he is still in there. Has Tyler made a game winning shot all year, but yet we still run our end of game plays to get him the ball. The only winning play we made this year was Roche's shot against Duquesne, which was a completely busted play after Tyler nearly traveled and fell down.

But yes, one of these guys needs to step and make an effing play, I couldn't agree more.
We are aligned.
 
I think we should have seen more Zay, Dji and Marcus in the 2nd. Even with Marcus's T he could have came back to help us. They went to five guard lineup and we didn't adjust and kept pretty much the same lineup in the game until 56 sec left. But I agree 97 and what others are saying, guys that are out there have to make plays...they didn't and guys that were on the bench that I thought could have negated some of LaSalles athleticism stayed on the bench until it was too late...just my 2 cents.
I screamed this at the TV, with some additional adjectives. So you throw my two cents into this particular Unicef box.
 
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I screamed this at the TV, with some additional adjectives. So you throw my two cents into this particular Unicef box.
It was agonizing last night - I don't blame Mooney for a good chunk of our losses but felt last night he fell asleep from the 8 min mark to the 1 min mark other than he was awake when he called the timeout.
 
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It was agonizing last night - I don't blame Mooney for a good chunk of our losses but felt last night he fell asleep from the 8 min mark to the 1 min mark other than he was awake when he called the timeout.
Lol. Watch Rain Man again and tell me if Dustin Hoffman doesn't remind you of anyone.
 
Goose is not a point guard in my opinion. He is a two guard, who can bring the the ball up the court. Our PG's are Nelson, Dji, and Randolph. Those are guys who can initiate the offense (although admittedly we have had significant difficulties with doing that this year).
Randolph is even less of a PG than Goose.
our PGs are Bailey and Nelson. Nelson was hurt. Bailey had foul trouble. but I hate sitting a guy with foul trouble. rather he fouled out than goes home with 4.
 
Randolph is even less of a PG than Goose.
our PGs are Bailey and Nelson. Nelson was hurt. Bailey had foul trouble. but I hate sitting a guy with foul trouble. rather he fouled out than goes home with 4.
and pretty sure Dji only got the 4th foul in the last 30 seconds right?
 
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I thought the same thing. I was just looking at the variety of shoes that the team was wearing at the last home game and really wondered about how much support the shoes offered.
no shoes offer ankle support. high top support is a myth. need trainer to wrap or wear a brace.
 
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It was agonizing last night - I don't blame Mooney for a good chunk of our losses but felt last night he fell asleep from the 8 min mark to the 1 min mark other than he was awake when he called the timeout.

Some blame the red uni's - i get that - but did u notice also Moon went back to the tie last night? Usually it's the suit but no tie. I figured it was bc he's back in hometown Philly and felt like it he had to dress to impress. Which doesn't make sense bc Philly is a dump.
 
Does anyone know Mooney's reason for killing our own momentum with timeouts? Legitimately curious.
I've got a theory. I think he wants the team to come off on a high with the bench clapping ... everyone feeling good. problem is strategy-wise, there's not much to say when things are going that well other than "keep it up, guys".

I don't like it any more than any of you do. it's just too often not having a positive effect.
 
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