Kenpom

[VT4700]

Currently 59.
Off. efficiency 32
Def. efficiency 99
SOS: 62
OOC SOS: 73
Top 100 wins: Loyola 47 Kentucky 49 Davidson 74
Sub 100 losses: Hofstra 146

7-3 is not where we wanted to be, but overall not too bad, and right now the A-10 has 8 top 100 teams in kenpom, so a chance to move up a good amount with wins.

 

[SFspidur]

I'm finding KenPom rankings pretty useless...they seem to still have a very heavily weighted preseason component for some reason. Teams aren't really budging regardless of what they do on the court...see Kentucky still at #49, an unimpressive Duke at #11, etc.

 

[VT4700]

I'm finding KenPom rankings pretty useless...they seem to still have a very heavily weighted preseason component for some reason. Teams aren't really budging regardless of what they do on the court...see Kentucky still at #49, an unimpressive Duke at #11, etc.

You might find them useless, but the NCAA doesn't. Net efficiency (Points per possession) is one of the two things they look at to get their NET rankings. They factor in who you play and where, so the opponent matters. The other is Team Value Index, which measures your wins (who did you beat and how good were they).

 

[SFspidur]

Since the NCAA doesn't reveal the NET formula, I have no idea whether KenPom in any way replicates what the NCAA is doing. Given that Duke and Kentucky's ratings differ by ~100 spots between the two, either the answer is no or KenPom's preseason weighting is still having a major effect.

 

[VT4700]

Net efficiency and Team Value Index is what will be used to make up the NET this year. Kenpom is not the net, so of course the numbers will be different. But, net efficiency, which is what Kenpom uses, is part of the NET and very relevant. Sure, as more and more games are played, there won't be as dramatic differences between Kenpom and the NET.

 

[SFspidur]

But the NCAA doesn't use a raw net efficiency...it's adjusted for location and "strength of opponent." KenPom adjusts based on relative efficiency of opponents, so that's a different metric and so again, we have no idea whether KenPom's efficiency numbers are anywhere near what the NCAA is using to build the NET.

TVI is a complete black box.

 

[SpiderTrap]

We are still in a good position to make the NCAA assuming we finish in top 2 of the A10. What has really hurt us is the Bonnies and Hofstra loss were both on our home floor. But as mentioned above - we still have a shot at some good wins in the A10 - assuming COVID doesn't cancel them. Still waiting to see how A10 plans to makeup and reschedule those games. Cause losing those games and not making them up could hurt our chances if the wrong games get cancelled.

 

[urmite]

In general, I find KenPom very useful, but this year having a large preseason component seems to be making it less so.
I still use KenPom to analyze individual games, but for overall strength of a team or a resume I am using Torvik since he provides a way to remove preseason, even if his data is more difficult for me to work with.

And now we have NET...

 

[97spiderfan]

We are still in a good position to make the NCAA assuming we finish in top 2 of the A10.

Well, yeah, pretty sure if we finish in the Top 2 in the A-10 we will be dancing. However, most teams that finish in the Top 2, aren't losing back to back games on their home court, against teams they should be beating.

 

[ChoppinBroccoli]

KenPom is very useful for banners.

 

[Eight Legger]

New giveaway idea for next year: KenPom Poms.