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Dji entering the portal

granted LSU is struggling, but in a strong SEC, & Dji has a big role and basically putting up same stats as last season in A10.

this is another reason VT4700 went to his bunker.
Who knows. He could be UR2400 over on the LSU basketball board. Must have picked a new favorite team this year.
 
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it's the SEC. as a player, that's got to be a huge draw. you play in some really big games.
it's probably 2-4 times the NIL. it's hearing a different coach's voice after 4 years. it's a different level of a rah-rah school ... even if the rah-rah is mostly aimed at football.
I think Burton and Dji were gone even if we could match the NIL ... which I don't think we can do. we're competitive with NIL in the A10, but probably no where near the P5 NIL level.
I wonder how competitive we are in the NIL space in the A10. Again - with it being so secret and not disclosed - its anyone's guess, but I wish teams had to disclose total amount - maybe not amount per player (that could be too personal).
 
I wonder how competitive we are in the NIL space in the A10. Again - with it being so secret and not disclosed - its anyone's guess, but I wish teams had to disclose total amount - maybe not amount per player (that could be too personal).

UR will never disclose this. They don't even disclose Mooney contract.
 
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I haven't read up on it, but sounds like student athletes could see a substantial increase if the revenue sharing thing is approved.
 
I like Dji as much as the next guy, but there's no way he makes us a .500 team this year.
we're 325th in the country in 3 point shooting.
Agree. I said no better than .500 club. Of course, Dji helps us be better but, it's not like losing him was the difference between us being a Top A-10 competing for an NCAA bid. We would though be slightly less lousy than we are now. Dji is a terrific defender, did a lot of little things to make the team better. 10 times better than running Roche, AP, Tanner out there which is our current wing rotation.
 
Agree. I said no better than .500 club. Of course, Dji helps us be better but, it's not like losing him was the difference between us being a Top A-10 competing for an NCAA bid. We would though be slightly less lousy than we are now. Dji is a terrific defender, did a lot of little things to make the team better. 10 times better than running Roche, AP, Tanner out there which is our current wing rotation.
Dji made the right choice. Happy for him. Shows that as a starter in SEC that he’s better player than some gave him credit for. I do believe if he would have stayed we probably win a few of the games we lost.
 
Dji made the right choice. Happy for him. Shows that as a starter in SEC that he’s better player than some gave him credit for. I do believe if he would have stayed we probably win a few of the games we lost.
I did not say Dji would have made us a contender. But damnit mooney, you have to start somewhere. So he loses Dji and Bigs, and replaces them with a bunch of one dimensional guys that aren't that great at the one dimension they are supposed to be. Should have saw how freaking awesome it is to have two lengthy forwards that can play all facets of the game and said A) we need to do everything to keep Dji and B) we need to find a Bigs clone. But instead, he is going to show all of us. He is going to bring in a bunch of one dimensional shooters, and show how we can just out shoot our way to wins. HA. And based on all his BS commentary in the preseason and early season, this is exactly what he thought he was doing.
 
I did not say Dji would have made us a contender. But damnit mooney, you have to start somewhere. So he loses Dji and Bigs, and replaces them with a bunch of one dimensional guys that aren't that great at the one dimension they are supposed to be. Should have saw how freaking awesome it is to have two lengthy forwards that can play all facets of the game and said A) we need to do everything to keep Dji and B) we need to find a Bigs clone. But instead, he is going to show all of us. He is going to bring in a bunch of one dimensional shooters, and show how we can just out shoot our way to wins. HA. And based on all his BS commentary in the preseason and early season, this is exactly what he thought he was doing.
Hey 23 - my comments weren’t aimed at you. I have a tendency to agree with pretty much what you post. Just clarifying.
 
Dji and Bigs were good, but the drop off at forward is not nearly as big a problem as the drop off from Jordan King in my opinion.
and Hunt getting hurt exacerbated it.
Well, which area is worse is not a question you want to ask? I would probably give the nod to the guard position because of Jordan King and as you noted the drop off was made worse by Hunt getting worse, but at least Mooney had an A-10 caliber guard on the roster.

As 23 noted, Dji and Bigelow were multi-dimensional players (great defenders, rebounders), Bigs could score and Dji was a great facilitator in our offense. We replaced them with Dusan (good scorer, but Mooney hates him on defense, doesn't really rebound) and AP, who we were all sold on being a good shooter, but that has not been the case and frankly he doesn't excel at much of anything out there, I suppose he is a decent rebounder. And then add Tanner into the mix, who also doesn't excel at any facet of the game. That is our forward room, pretty bleak.
 
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Dji and Bigs were good, but the drop off at forward is not nearly as big a problem as the drop off from Jordan King in my opinion.
and Hunt getting hurt exacerbated it.
Yes, the revolution didn’t go as well this year…
Switching from King to Prez…
 
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we haven't seen the best of AP yet, but I still think he's a solid addition. he could put up Bigelow numbers as a senior.
Dusan's our best player with Delonnie out. agreed he's not Dji defensively. but he's a good player.
 
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Dusan puts up numbers but they don't necessarily impact winning. I could care less what numbers AP puts up, if they are not impacting winning. Yes, he is very demonstrative, but does that impact winning?
I hope we consider winning %s of former teams when selecting transfer candidates - hard for me to think anyone off a 6-21 Dartmouth team can be a solid A10 starter ...
 
it's a team game. any good play impacts winning. but you have to have good guard play in college basketball.
Well some guys score a few points but make more negative plays on defense and lack of effort. We definitely needed a better guard in the portal. But even one solid guard next to Hunt, and Dji at the 3 and we have a much much better team.
 
I hope we consider winning %s of former teams when selecting transfer candidates - hard for me to think anyone off a 6-21 Dartmouth team can be a solid A10 starter ...

I posted a podcast this summer that said basically exactly that. Artis White too. I think it was 3 Man Weave? Maybe something else. They said Nesko & B Artis were stat stuffers on bad teams. Of course u can be a good player on a bad team but I didn’t dismiss it because it was a very detailed pod on our team & I thought quite insightful. it’s not like getting bench guys from p5 did anything either.
 
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I haven't read up on it, but sounds like student athletes could see a substantial increase if the revenue sharing thing is approved.
In theory - they should see a great increase. Easy way to explain it - right now, all money paid to the athletes has to come from outside the University. So either a private entity/company has to be willing to pay the athlete, or these collectives can pay them. Obviously - there is some return of service - either the athlete shows up at some events, agrees to market some products or materials, etc. But again - that is a private agreement between the entity/collective and the athlete. Could they pay the athlete $5 million dollars to show up to 2 event dinners and show up and volunteer at a local school for 1 hour (this is what many collectives do) - they sure can cause its their money and their agreement with the player.

NOW - imagine the athlete can get that private money, but then also get a paycheck from the school they play for - so of course, the money goes up. There are rumors of NCAA trying to limit NIL on the outside, but I don't see how legally - especially now since the cat is basically out of the bag already, they would be able to do it. How could you tell a kid - you can only make X amount on the outside, no more. In our capital and free society - they should be able to make whatever the market is willing to bear. And like I said - if a company or collective wants to throw several million dollars at a kid - so be it. Its their money and their agreement. To me - it is outside the control of the NCAA.
 
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Non profit schools paying athletes millions is still pretty wild imo when u consider almost all schools lose $ on athletics overall & have to be additionally subsidized by the school, student fees & in the case of publics especially by the state govt (taxpayer).
 
Non profit schools paying athletes millions is still pretty wild imo when u consider almost all schools lose $ on athletics overall & have to be additionally subsidized by the school, student fees & in the case of publics especially by the state govt (taxpayer).
yeah well there's no way P5 schools are non-profit ... unless the top honchos pay themselves a fortune to wipe out the bottom line.
 
The terms non-profits use is "excess revenue" - as long as they take that "excess revenue" and re-invest back into the school/university - they are fine. They just are not allowed to make a profit and hold onto it. So many times this is why some P5 programs are constantly spending on locker rooms ,uniforms, upgraded travel, etc - they have to make sure to spend all this money - IF they are lucky enough to make a profit, sorry "excess revenue".
 
yeah well there's no way P5 schools are non-profit ... unless the top honchos pay themselves a fortune to wipe out the bottom line.

but when it comes to athletics most are, even p5. most lose $ too overall. Yes, they are designed to spend what they bring in, but excess revenue is there for some because they are subsidized by all those other sources.

but I'm just going by their tax exempt classification. when u factor in endowments & other assets such as real estate obviously they r quite valuable. & yes the top honchos do pay themselves a lot. with college coaches pay it was 1 of the problems why we got into this professional athlete model. personally we should see expect to see a trend downward there, idk if we will, probably not, but at least in contract length it's reasonable because that is much less important today. & if they need more $ to pay student athletes the easiest way is cutting expense because that is all u can control.
 
but when it comes to athletics most are, even p5. most lose $ too overall. Yes, they are designed to spend what they bring in, but excess revenue is there for some because they are subsidized by all those other sources.

but I'm just going by their tax exempt classification. when u factor in endowments & other assets such as real estate obviously they r quite valuable. & yes the top honchos do pay themselves a lot. with college coaches pay it was 1 of the problems why we got into this professional athlete model. personally we should see expect to see a trend downward there, idk if we will, probably not, but at least in contract length it's reasonable because that is much less important today. & if they need more $ to pay student athletes the easiest way is cutting expense because that is all u can control.
Yep, cut the “non revenue” sports. They offer nothing to the school as students. Their alums become worthless doctors, lawyers, business owners, Wall Street executives and other professionals who are unlikely to contribute any money to the school.
 
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Ohio St athletics alone brought in $280M in revenue in 2023. The top 15 athletic programs brought in $200M each. Tell me these schools are "non-proft", lol. They need a bonfire to burn money to hit their breakeven.
 
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Ohio St athletics alone brought in $280M in revenue in 2023. The top 15 athletic programs brought in $200M each. Tell me these schools are "non-proft", lol. They need a bonfire to burn money to hit their breakeven.
I will, until you show me that Ohio St as an institution is a commercial enterprise with no connection to the state government…
 
Yep, cut the “non revenue” sports. They offer nothing to the school as students. Their alums become worthless doctors, lawyers, business owners, Wall Street executives and other professionals who are unlikely to contribute any money to the school.

Hope u didn't think I meant that. I meant cutting expenses of coaches salary. But yes unfortunately some non revenue sports will be on the chopping block.
 
Ohio St athletics alone brought in $280M in revenue in 2023. The top 15 athletic programs brought in $200M each. Tell me these schools are "non-proft", lol. They need a bonfire to burn money to hit their breakeven.

OSU athletics had a deficit of 38 million last year
 
I wonder when the new model takes effect - where schools can pay the athlete directly along with NIL - will there be a school that massively cuts their sports programs and just tries to put all money and effort into a select few sports.

Would a school just keep Football, Mens and Womens basketball, Baseball - and then select a few womens sports to balance out Title IX with all the football players - maybe lacrosse, field hockey, soccer, etc. And just pour all your money into those sports - a very limited amount, and try to win at all costs/price.

This could be a model for UR - since we know they already think the Student-athlete dumbs down the student population, they could eliminate 60% of them and just keep a handful of sports, and have more spots for regular students. And given we don't have big time football and are moving down to the Patriot League - don't even need to spend a lot of money there.
 
DOGE needs to do an audit of their expenses.
However they will need the name, address, routing number, account number, social security number, date of birth, and mothers maiden name of all personal bank accounts in the US to do that.

Please provide… ;)
 
I wonder when the new model takes effect - where schools can pay the athlete directly along with NIL - will there be a school that massively cuts their sports programs and just tries to put all money and effort into a select few sports.

Would a school just keep Football, Mens and Womens basketball, Baseball - and then select a few womens sports to balance out Title IX with all the football players - maybe lacrosse, field hockey, soccer, etc. And just pour all your money into those sports - a very limited amount, and try to win at all costs/price.

This could be a model for UR - since we know they already think the Student-athlete dumbs down the student population, they could eliminate 60% of them and just keep a handful of sports, and have more spots for regular students. And given we don't have big time football and are moving down to the Patriot League - don't even need to spend a lot of money there.
FCS schools are required to sponsor at least 14 sports, while FBS schools are required to sponsor at least 16.

Of course, with another antitrust lawsuit or a blown-up NCAA that too could go away, but that's the rule for now.
 
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FCS schools are required to sponsor at least 14 sports, while FCS schools are required to sponsor at least 16.

Of course, with another antitrust lawsuit or a blown-up NCAA that too could go away, but that's the rule for now.
If you say so, Schrödinger… ;)
 
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