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thinking more about it, I think our best shot at a good grad transfer would be at the SF spot.

a guy coming in there is competing against Nick coming off injury, Tyler who's a freshman, and Jake and Andre who aren't even SFs. he'd have a legitimate chance to start or be in a big role.

I don't think a grad has any chance to start at another position. if he's good enough to start at the other positions, then he's got plenty of big options.
+1 to this.

Only option i see for a big is if he’s an awesome defender and knows he’ll be the top backup to both Nate and grant. That probably gets him 15-20 minutes. Maybe he gets more if he plays better than advertised on O.

That scenario is way more probable than a guy who plays well both ways.
 
thinking more about it, I think our best shot at a good grad transfer would be at the SF spot.

a guy coming in there is competing against Nick coming off injury, Tyler who's a freshman, and Jake and Andre who aren't even SFs. he'd have a legitimate chance to start or be in a big role.

I don't think a grad has any chance to start at another position. if he's good enough to start at the other positions, then he's got plenty of big options.

Tough gamble for a grad transfer in his final year. Competing against Nick is not a good option. He was arguably our best player two years ago, and, if healthy and ready to go as expected, is looking at 30+ minutes every game. There has to be a whole lot more attractive options than that out there for a grad transfer. I see your point though, and it really shows why grad transfers would likely have little interest to be here this year.
 
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+1 to this.

Only option i see for a big is if he’s an awesome defender and knows he’ll be the top backup to both Nate and grant. That probably gets him 15-20 minutes. Maybe he gets more if he plays better than advertised on O.

That scenario is way more probable than a guy who plays well both ways.

The problem with this is how could he know he would be the top back up? He would have to beat out Grace. There are other teams out there with guaranteed playing time, kind of like we had last year when we signed some late guys and Yates came aboard. Our situation this year is way less attractive for a grad transfer than it was last year.
 
The problem with this is how could he know he would be the top back up? He would have to beat out Grace. There are other teams out there with guaranteed playing time, kind of like we had last year when we signed some late guys and Yates came aboard. Our situation this year is way less attractive for a grad transfer than it was last year.
There are no guarantees. As far as “knowing” goes, I think you read what the coaches are telling you about your chances, maybe you look at some film and assess your chances against the incumbent backups.

Regardless of above, if a strong defensive forward/center was considering UR, you’d be hard pressed to convince me that guy isn’t going to see a lot of time over either grace or Sal, neither of whom showed defensive prowess.
 
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There are no guarantees. As far as “knowing” goes, I think you read what the coaches are telling you about your chances, maybe you look at some film and assess your chances against the incumbent backups.

Regardless of above, if a strong defensive forward/center was considering UR, you’d be hard pressed to convince me that guy isn’t going to see a lot of time over either grace or Sal, neither of whom showed defensive prowess.

I hear you, but I don't see a lot of strong, defensive bigs out there. And, if they are out there and pretty good, I don't see why they would be interested in coming here when best case they would be a back up. The really good ones are going P6, and the decent ones are looking to start or play a lot. I'm not saying we aren't trying to land one, or haven't tried. I'm just saying that I understand why we wouldn't be an attractive spot for one this year.
 
My lord, Mooney's bidding. Yes, by now Mooney and the sleepy fumbling coach gang have missed out on any significant help in the grad transfer market. But if they had some sales ability they certainly could have showed a prospect the opportunity to team with Grant inside and gilly/Francis. As noted, it is not like we have 3 one and dones in there. 4700 has the moon dog woe is me defeatist mentality down perfectly.
 
I hear you, but I don't see a lot of strong, defensive bigs out there. And, if they are out there and pretty good, I don't see why they would be interested in coming here when best case they would be a back up. The really good ones are going P6, and the decent ones are looking to start or play a lot. I'm not saying we aren't trying to land one, or haven't tried. I'm just saying that I understand why we wouldn't be an attractive spot for one this year.
I’m not qualified to evaluate who’s out there, so I can’t say who’s a candidate.

Theoretically, if there’s a guy who is on a crappy low major team but isn’t a two way player, he would be a candidate to come to UR. This presumes he can be convinced we are ncaa ready, otherwise I don’t know why he’d come here unless he really liked the academics.
 
VCU just signed a 4* Star 2019 recruit churning out the bottom of roster. also signed another guy in spring beating out plenty of p6’s. They return as much as we do % wise yet still trying to improve the roster and using all ships to do so. Novel concept.
 
VCU just signed a 4* Star 2019 recruit churning out the bottom of roster. also signed another guy in spring beating out plenty of p6’s. They return as much as we do % wise yet still trying to improve the roster and using all ships to do so. Novel concept.
That’s depressing...
 
That’s depressing...
Yes, we have been told by a certain poster that there were not any recruits left this spring and then VCU sign a break out big man (Ward) that several A10 programs recruiting, and a top 100 player at the guard position. Maybe there weren't any out there because the other A10 teams had already put in the leg work with these guys.
 
VCU just signed a 4* Star 2019 recruit churning out the bottom of roster. also signed another guy in spring beating out plenty of p6’s. They return as much as we do % wise yet still trying to improve the roster and using all ships to do so. Novel concept.
Stop trying to compare us to VCU... You know they play in a different league and a different city than we do, so there's really no way we can be expected to recruit like they do. It's just completely unrealistic!
 
VCU just signed a 4* Star 2019 recruit churning out the bottom of roster. also signed another guy in spring beating out plenty of p6’s. They return as much as we do % wise yet still trying to improve the roster and using all ships to do so. Novel concept.
I wonder how many D-1 coaches out there can't fill out their scholarship allotment. Number has to be pretty small.
 
I'm always surprised when a kid commits this late in his senior year. I get it if he didn't have offers before and came on late. or if he de-committed from somewhere else. just seems strange to be a 4 star deciding this late. I can't imagine doing that. but everyone is different.
 
I'm always surprised when a kid commits this late in his senior year. I get it if he didn't have offers before and came on late. or if he de-committed from somewhere else. just seems strange to be a 4 star deciding this late. I can't imagine doing that. but everyone is different.
I read that he was committing to St. Joe's before Coach Martelli was fired. His offers included UConn, Temple, Boston College, Rhode Island, La Salle, etc. It seemed like his late commitment was mostly due to Martelli being fired. The Athletic had an article about a house fire where he had some family members die. That also could have affected his late commitment.
 
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I read that he was committing to St. Joe's before Coach Martelli was fired. His offers included UConn, Temple, Boston College, Rhode Island, La Salle, etc. It seemed like his late commitment was mostly due to Martelli being fired. The Athletic had an article about a house fire where he had some family members die. That also could have affected his late commitment.
that would explain it in this case. that's a lot to go through. thanks.
 
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Not really. We have added Burton and Francis for this year, and Crabtree for next year. That's a nice trio.
You have a different bar than I do. To me it's depressing that we don't seem to be in the hunt for any of these guys, and worse, that the school down the street is getting them instead.
 
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You have a different bar than I do. To me it's depressing that we don't seem to be in the hunt for any of these guys, and worse, that the school down the street is getting them instead.
Don't get yourself worked up, TBone. Just try to look at things from a different perspective. For example, compared to Randolph-Macon, I think we are doing great with the caliber of recruits we are attracting!
 
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Don't get yourself worked up, TBone. Just try to look at things from a different perspective. For example, compared to Randolph-Macon, I think we are doing great with the caliber of recruits we are attracting!

Another post, another jab at our players? Are you sure you are a Spider fan? This is where you respond and say you never say anything bad about our players. Okay. Whatever.
 
I read that he was committing to St. Joe's before Coach Martelli was fired. His offers included UConn, Temple, Boston College, Rhode Island, La Salle, etc. It seemed like his late commitment was mostly due to Martelli being fired. The Athletic had an article about a house fire where he had some family members die. That also could have affected his late commitment.

He lost his 11 month old younger brother and his grandmother in the fire. It happened last year and he had to jump from a second floor window to survive. Just heartbreaking and hard to not pull for the kid.
 
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He lost his 11 month old younger brother and his grandmother in the fire. It happened last year and he had to jump from a second floor window to survive. Just heartbreaking and hard to not pull for the kid.
Yes it is heartbreaking. This morning I read in the R-TD that it was his 11 year old cousin and his grandmother.
 
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Another post, another jab at our players? Are you sure you are a Spider fan? This is where you respond and say you never say anything bad about our players. Okay. Whatever.

I guess Mooney took a jab at our players, or former players, when he said on podcast that a couple past grad transfers did not work out well.
 
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Another post, another jab at our players? Are you sure you are a Spider fan? This is where you respond and say you never say anything bad about our players. Okay. Whatever.

That's a jab at the players? He took a shot at Mooney! Mooney sets the bar so low around here people yell championship and tournament if we recruit a bench player. Jeez.
 
that would explain it in this case. that's a lot to go through. thanks.
He wasn't signing with St Joe. If he were he'd have already been signed before Martelli left. He had much bigger fish on the hook than Joes. He's the number 1 player in Delaware. He was never in danger of going to Joes and Hurley at UCONN just can't create a lot of confidence in a guy that needs family. Seems that the family Rhodes has created is a big attraction especially for guys that really value it. I've seen absolutely not of this from Mooney. Zero. Ever.
 
Seems that the family Rhodes has created is a big attraction especially for guys that really value it. I've seen absolutely not of this from Mooney. Zero. Ever.
i know you kind of claim to care about the spiders in spite of being a Ram fan, but stating that CM doesn’t treat his guys like family is pretty absurd and also demonstrates your lack of familiarity with the program.

If there’s an underlying quality that by most accounts CM does well in its treating his players pretty well. Lots of guys love him as evidenced by the show of support after the billboard incident of Aught-19. There’s also the much published father figure to a former team manager story as well.

I don’t think we are losing guys out to vcu over homeyness. I think we aren’t trying.
 
i know you kind of claim to care about the spiders in spite of being a Ram fan, but stating that CM doesn’t treat his guys like family is pretty absurd and also demonstrates your lack of familiarity with the program.

If there’s an underlying quality that by most accounts CM does well in its treating his players pretty well. Lots of guys love him as evidenced by the show of support after the billboard incident of Aught-19. There’s also the much published father figure to a former team manager story as well.

I don’t think we are losing guys out to vcu over homeyness. I think we aren’t trying.
And he has a lack of familiarity with Hyland. He took two visits to St Joe's and was going to commit right before they fired Martelli. It is easy to find out if you research it.
 
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i know you kind of claim to care about the spiders in spite of being a Ram fan, but stating that CM doesn’t treat his guys like family is pretty absurd and also demonstrates your lack of familiarity with the program.

If there’s an underlying quality that by most accounts CM does well in its treating his players pretty well. Lots of guys love him as evidenced by the show of support after the billboard incident of Aught-19. There’s also the much published father figure to a former team manager story as well.

I don’t think we are losing guys out to vcu over homeyness. I think we aren’t trying.

Yeah that was a pretty absurd statement. I haven't seen anything out of Rhoades about creating a family either. Zero. Ever. Unless you are around the team consistently who would be able to really say that. Although Rhoades did make a great career decision not taking asst. coaching spot he was offered by Mooney many years ago instead latching on to VCU offer later.

It does look like there is a lot of inappropriate closeness going on in DaMan's bath house picture.
 
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And he has a lack of familiarity with Hyland. He took two visits to St Joe's and was going to commit right before they fired Martelli. It is easy to find out if you research it.
He could have committed when he was a Jr, but he didn't and I'm sure Martelli was after him since he was in middle school. Kid knew that he had many options. What could any other explanation be? I kinda follow this stuff closely especially with the guys that are being recruited long before they have been mentioned on two four seven.
 
He could have committed when he was a Jr, but he didn't and I'm sure Martelli was after him since he was in middle school. Kid knew that he had many options. What could any other explanation be? I kinda follow this stuff closely especially with the guys that are being recruited long before they have been mentioned on two four seven.
Guess you missed this one then. The explanation is that Martelli was fired in March.
 
Guess you missed this one then. The explanation is that Martelli was fired in March.
Did Martelli have him signed and he decommitted in March? My point was that if Martelli had the inside track so strongly he'd have been signed long before March. He signed exactly 5 months before he'll play his first D1 game. Why not during the signing period for 2019's the year before or a rising Sr? Please tell me how I don't have a valid point here.
 
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That's a jab at the players? He took a shot at Mooney! Mooney sets the bar so low around here people yell championship and tournament if we recruit a bench player. Jeez.

Yes, saying "compared to Randolph Macon, our recruits our great" is clearly criticizing our players. Our coach as well, but clearly our players also. Inexcusable.
 
i know you kind of claim to care about the spiders in spite of being a Ram fan, but stating that CM doesn’t treat his guys like family is pretty absurd and also demonstrates your lack of familiarity with the program.

If there’s an underlying quality that by most accounts CM does well in its treating his players pretty well. Lots of guys love him as evidenced by the show of support after the billboard incident of Aught-19. There’s also the much published father figure to a former team manager story as well.

I don’t think we are losing guys out to vcu over homeyness. I think we aren’t trying.

Unless things have changed from an admissions standpoint, with VCU, it is always fair to wonder which of their guys would not have been accepted here. With Davidson, no. If they out recruit us, they out recruit us, but with VCU? Who knows? Correct me if I am wrong for thinking they accept guys that we wouldn't accept. And, no, I am not getting on VCU for this. I am getting on us for not allowing kids that the NCAA says are fine.
 
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