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Not a great staff so far and I think most on here would agree. We've lost some key assistants and potentially could lose more like Coach Mines. We have to keep Coach Mines, it will be a massive hit in recruiting if we do. Bringing a guy from VMI doesn't sound great either because they don't win over there and this guy doesn't know how to coach winning football. Also I have not heard good things about Durden from his days at jmu.
Mines would be a huge loss. I hear
 
I like everyone else has been frustrated by our special team play especially this past year and certainly understand the criticism of the special teams coach. I also seem to recall the harsh criticism of Bob Trott during his tenure and we see how that worked out.
Certainly Coach Legg deserves criticism for the special teams play but there are numerous factors which impact special teams.
First of all I think everybody will agree that the personnel handling kick-offs and punts have been inconsistent at best.Across midfield punts have been boomed into the end zone while from within our territory they have been kicked 30-35 yards. Let's not underestimate the skill set of the personnel on special teams. What impact did the massive injuries this year contribute the special team make-up? If memory serves Trott's defense got better with faster personnel who could contain to the outside and with taller and quicker defensive backs(i.e. David Jones,etc). Coach Legg has been here for 10 years and was part of the National Championship team. Coach Rocco was a tough taskmaster and I am sure that if Coach Legg did not have the skill set required he would have been set free during his 5 years here. Legg also has connections to the incoming DC Braithwaite from their Christopher Newport days so that may be a factor in him being retained
If you look at the stats, our punter had one pooch punt go into the end zone for a touchback this year. Most of them were inside the 10 and six of them were inside the 5! Your theory of all of them being "boomed" into the endzone is like Bob Uecker once said.....just a bit outside.
 
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My opinion is that we need to give this new staff some leeway. Even if they don't look as impressive on paper, everyone from UTC is coming from a "top 10 FCS program". I get that this is not transferable, but certainly should ease some fears.

Huesman will have the defense ready.

As for the offense, Durden was at JMU when they won their last NC.

Keep in mind that the last coach felt that he took us as far as he could. I have no idea how much of his staff felt the same way, but some fresh attitudes may not be a bad thing.
 
This staff has won more NCs than the last staff. Not sure what everyone else's goal is, but I'm pleased with that.
 
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DR brought a good portion of the staff some are lamenting the loss of with hem when he came from Liberty
 
My understanding is that Woods and Legg are staying and there was no spot for Belin at UD or UR (no fault of his own), and everyone else including S&C coach Stewart, and the film guy, have gone to UD.
 
My understanding is that Woods and Legg are staying and there was no spot for Belin at UD or UR (no fault of his own), and everyone else including S&C coach Stewart, and the film guy, have gone to UD.
As to Belin, make him interim basketball coach. It would give him another year to find a job in football.
 
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I asked about Durden on the jmu board and for the most part they really think highly of him. I didn't know he was there when they won their last NC and also when they had they were number 1 almost the whole year in 08. It sounds like Mickey Matthews handcuffed him and didn't let him open up the offense like he should. Their fans said that what he did at UTC is a better gauge of how he really is as an OC because he didn't have a head coach limiting his offense. My only issue is that it sounds like his offense is really slow paced and a takes forever for him to call a play, we need to go fast like we did with Streeter. So I take back what I said earlier, sounds like we're getting a good OC.
 
Just watch some UTC video. It's not that way.
He meant at JMU. QB asks QB Coach for play, who asks Durden, who asks Mickey. Mickey removes toothpick and answers. It is passed back up the chain and QB heads to the line with 3 on the play clock...
 
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When Huesman's National Championship defense gave up < 16 points a game, Durden's offense at JMU put up 38.
 
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I asked about Durden on the jmu board and for the most part they really think highly of him. I didn't know he was there when they won their last NC and also when they had they were number 1 almost the whole year in 08. It sounds like Mickey Matthews handcuffed him and didn't let him open up the offense like he should. Their fans said that what he did at UTC is a better gauge of how he really is as an OC because he didn't have a head coach limiting his offense. My only issue is that it sounds like his offense is really slow paced and a takes forever for him to call a play, we need to go fast like we did with Streeter. So I take back what I said earlier, sounds like we're getting a good OC.

Yes, been reading your stuff over there. Fascinating:
Great, sounds like we made an awful hire at OC. Losing Rocco just wrecked us, good god I hate UR.
 
Yes, been reading your stuff over there. Fascinating:
That was before I read some more about Durden and heard better stuff. I judge a little too quickly a lot so I'll give these new guys a shot should be interesting to see what happens. However I've said it before and I'll say it again, Huesman is no Rocco.
 
That was before I read some more about Durden and heard better stuff. I judge a little too quickly a lot so I'll give these new guys a shot should be interesting to see what happens. However I've said it before and I'll say it again, Huesman is no Rocco.

You're right, that was before.

This was after:
I'll be honest I don't like the hire. I don't like anything going on at UR right now. We just lost the best coach we've had to an in conference opponent because our AD is a f****** idiot. We're going to really struggle with this coaching change and it's going to suck seeing Rocco do really well at UD. Great that y'all like Durden but not sure I do.
 
Choppin, don't you realize that VT is just setting up the Puke fans so they will be overconfident when we go up there and whip their butts :cool:
 
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I don't think anyone will be beating their butts next year. Idk if y'all heard but they just brought in a transfer from Georgia Tech, their leading rusher from this past season who is a real bruiser. He ran all over VT this and I don't think the CAA defenses will provide much resistance. jmu will likely go u defeated in the league again next year, we could be looking at another NDSU and man would that suck.
 
As someone said earlier, thank God.
You'll be regretting that one pretty soon. Idk why you wouldn't want another Rocco. He is an outstanding Head coach and we just lost something great that we had. You fail to see how this wil hurt us greatly.
 
VT what you are missing is, Rocco was a good coach not a great coach. Very special coaches come along rarely, and at this level don't stay long. Many of us see the flaws in DR, you refuse to do so.
 
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VT, I appreciate you being a Spider fan, but you are consistently posting statements that your have to walk back the following day. You seem to me to be a very emotional and immature young man. Now you are on the JMU board bashing Huesman. He's a tremendous coach who completely turned around UTC with very little resources. He had a large roll in building the 08 championship team. Rocco is a good coach, but there is a strong argument to be made that Huesman has a much more impressive resume. Oh, and getting a FBS running back doesn't make you NDSU. Stop being so emotional and look at the facts.
 
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VT, I appreciate you being a Spider fan, but you are consistently posting statements that your have to walk back the following day. You seem to me to be a very emotional and immature young man. Now you are on the JMU board bashing Huesman. He's a tremendous coach who completely turned around UTC with very little resources. He had a large roll in building the 08 championship team. Rocco is a good coach, but there is a strong argument to be made that Huesman has a much more impressive resume. Oh, and getting a FBS running back doesn't make you NDSU. Stop being so emotional and look at the facts.
I wasn't knocking Huesman I was knocking Durden. Huesman is a good coach but he is not as good as Rocco. He never did anything in the postseason at UTC. Until he surpasses what Rocco did at UR I will not think we upgraded. I hope I am wrong and that my opinion of him changes next year.
 
Danny Rocco was a very fine coach. The depth of our program should be commended, and he gets credit for that. I can and will rattle off 5 of my favorite Spider games of all time that happened in the past two years, and thank him for those.

But this idolatry as the best coach in UR history, and Huesman/Clawson/London not even being able sniff his jock is ludicrous and ignores the facts.

Rocco's teams were 5-3 in the playoffs.
  • 2 of those 5 wins were first round home games against MEAC teams. Remember, according to you, VT, MEAC "isn't real FCS football, and they're coached by idiots." Those first round "play-in" games didn't even exist during the prior regimes, so let's discard them so we're comparing apples to apples. I'm going to assume that if Clawson's and London's Spider teams got to play a home MEAC play-in game, they would have won too.
  • His teams went 2-1 in the round of 16, including a blowout loss at a Coastal Carolina team that had no business blowing us out. Both London and Clawson went 2-0 in the round of 16. Huesman was DC for 3 of those 4 wins.
  • His teams were 1-1 in the quarterfinals. London and Clawson were also 1-1 in the quarterfinals. I may need to check my history, but I don't think either of their teams lost 38-0.
  • He was 0-1 in the semifinals, losing to the dynasty defending national champion, just like Clawson. At least Clawson's team was in the game in the second half. Obviously, London was 1-0 in semifinals, and 1-0 in the finals.
  • So, in summary, from the round of 16 on - Rocco 3-3, Clawson 3-2, London 5-1. Huesman as DC 7-2.
 
Danny Rocco was a very fine coach. The depth of our program should be commended, and he gets credit for that. I can and will rattle off 5 of my favorite Spider games of all time that happened in the past two years, and thank him for those.

But this idolatry as the best coach in UR history, and Huesman/Clawson/London not even being able sniff his jock is ludicrous and ignores the facts.

Rocco's teams were 5-3 in the playoffs.
  • 2 of those 5 wins were first round home games against MEAC teams. Remember, according to you, VT, MEAC "isn't real FCS football, and they're coached by idiots." Those first round "play-in" games didn't even exist during the prior regimes, so let's discard them so we're comparing apples to apples. I'm going to assume that if Clawson's and London's Spider teams got to play a home MEAC play-in game, they would have won too.
  • His teams went 2-1 in the round of 16, including a blowout loss at a Coastal Carolina team that had no business blowing us out. Both London and Clawson went 2-0 in the round of 16. Huesman was DC for 3 of those 4 wins.
  • His teams were 1-1 in the quarterfinals. London and Clawson were also 1-1 in the quarterfinals. I may need to check my history, but I don't think either of their teams lost 38-0.
  • He was 0-1 in the semifinals, losing to the dynasty defending national champion, just like Clawson. At least Clawson's team was in the game in the second half. Obviously, London was 1-0 in semifinals, and 1-0 in the finals.
  • So, in summary, from the round of 16 on - Rocco 3-3, Clawson 3-2, London 5-1. Huesman as DC 7-2.

I would only add that Rocco's 3 playoff teams were all slaughtered in their final game.
 
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I will agree about the blowout playoff losses. Something doesn't seem right that we got blown out so badly in all three of those losses, especially the Coastal game, there's no way Coastal was that good. In those losses we looked unprepared and like we hadn't played football before. Almost looked like we already decided that our season was over before the game. I guess that reflects on the head coach and in that case that would be Rocco. That is the one thing that I will knock him on.
 
I'd like to add that until RH matches or exceeds DR coaching record at Richmond all comments on who the better coaches is should be on hold
I'm 100% rooting form RH but he hasn't won a game yet and Danny did a really good job.

The pressure really is on RH because the talent is there and isn't close to being depleted by any standard and I think we will field a better team next year so from my perspective and from what I'm reading from all of you guys is that if we can't do as well as we did this year at least record wise you like me will be majorly disappointed
Go spiders!
 
I don't think anyone will be beating their butts next year. Idk if y'all heard but they just brought in a transfer from Georgia Tech, their leading rusher from this past season who is a real bruiser. He ran all over VT this and I don't think the CAA defenses will provide much resistance. jmu will likely go u defeated in the league again next year, we could be looking at another NDSU and man would that suck.
Marcus Marshall ran for more than 100 yards only twice this year in 11 games (DNP v UNC). That was against VT and UVA (wow, congrats). Besides those 2 games, he ran for less than 40 yards a game on average with 2 total TDs (4 total on the year). So yeah, count me as terrified of this guy.
 
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I love Huesman, I pretty much loathe Rocco at this point (To the blowout this year, it's easy to say that it was created by Rocco's failure to lead the team while all of the UD negotiation was going on). Nevertheless, I often wonder why none of these guys are being handed the keys to a FBC team. If they really were that good, they would get a shot, and do well in a power conference.
 
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