4700 PomPom UR80 have bailed. Should say a lot

[GKiller]

So we don't have 3 now? I just seem to remember we didn't use one last year or am I mis remembering?

Not right now. Didn’t we have even more on ship last year we had like 20 guys on roster.

 

[spiderman]

Thanks, I'm a visual learner...I don't know why I have 3 in my head.

I have to cheat with a spreadsheet! lol

 

[SpiderDad75]

Not right now. Didn’t we have even more on ship last year we had like 20 guys on roster.

Yeah definitely had a lot.

 

[urmite]

I have to cheat with a spreadsheet! lol

And I would have sorted by seasons left instead of position...lol.
Or was that height?

 

[spiderman]

And I would have sorted by seasons left instead of position...lol.
Or was that height?

lol, kinda by position.

 

[SpiderRick]

Quinn has one thing going for him, height. His sky hook, over the shoulder push or whatever he wants to call it is gawd awful. It's a prayer that sometimes goes in and often times doesn't draw iron. Decent footwork but not good finishing ability. Not going to be the big man savior. Keep recruiting. Going to be a long ways back to respectability. Until changes are made maybe never.

I would love it if Quinn could work with TJ Cline during off season. Remember how Cline did a complete makeover on his physique during the off season, and came back to be A10 Player of the Year?

 

[97spiderfan]

. I think JayNel should not be given up on. He can play, but hit that Fr wall I think and confidence went down, which is understandable. I'm rooting for all the guys, would some of these guys do better in another "system" yeah possibly but we are in Coach's system, so they have to adapt. I'm not sure how many scholarships we have open...2? Someone can check...I would go find another shooter and 6'8ish versatile guy.

Jaynel to me is probably are most talented guy on the roster. I think everyone can see the potential he has, as a guy who has the ability to score at all 3 levels and be our PG.

That said Jaynel is also the guy whose mental game is most broken now. Some guys can work that out and some can't and that will be the big question in the offseason. Can he get his mojo back? I hope so, we need him, but we've seen other players with talent (Deion Taylor) comes to mind who lost their confidence and never ever fully got it back.

 

[spiderman]

Deion's problems were more physical.

I think Nelson has won and been great every step of his career. most of these guys probably have been. he's hit a bump in the road. just has to get back on the bike and put in the work again this offseason. he did miss a lot of time. got to get his mojo back.

 

[I-M-UR]

Congratulations to you and hope he does the same.

Hope? Didn’t coaches give players expectations for off season conditioning? Quinn isn’t the only one of the players who have a lot of potential but need to put in a lot of effort to reach it. Mooney has never shown any tendency to get that done.

 

[SpiderGuy]

I'd feel much better about our guys adapting to our system if the system had an established history of winning.

Right here. That’s it. We’ve talked about this over and over. Other than a few tweaks here and there, it’s in concrete.

 

[Not-A-Homer]

Deion's problems were more physical.

I think Nelson has won and been great every step of his career. most of these guys probably have been. he's hit a bump in the road. just has to get back on the bike and put in the work again this offseason. he did miss a lot of time. got to get his mojo back.

I'm not so sure that I agree on this. Deion Taylor had that crazy sidewinder shot, but I think that he had head (confidence) issues as well. He played very tentative, which is often the giveaway.

Nelson had a few good offensive games. But, his game has significant "areas of needed improvement" if he is going to be a high level A-10 player. Based upon what we saw this year, Nelson's defense is well below major college level. He doesn't pass the ball with college point guard skill, and his ball handling was shaky at best (2.0 assist to 1.9 turnovers). I personally don't like the way that he palms the ball while dribbling, but if the officials aren't going to call it, reality is that is a minor thing.

Offensively, Nelson was 30% from 3, 36% from 2, and 72% free throws, below where the Spiders need him to be. Most often, when he tried to get to the rim his shot was blocked or he threw the ball away. He had some nightmare games to go along with his good ones.

Bottom line, he has a long way to go. Was it fair to anoint him king and raise the pre-season bar to unreasonable expectation, probably not. It is going to take a lot of improvement to get him to the point where he is a high level A-10 performer. Far more than just a bump in the road in my opinion. Can he become a top level player, maybe, will be up to him. I don't think it will be next year.

 

[spiderman]

I'm not so sure that I agree on this. Deion Taylor had that crazy sidewinder shot, but I think that he had head (confidence) issues as well. He played very tentative, which is often the giveaway.

Deion seemed so stiff after the back injury. never the same athletically. I'm sure that messes with your confidence.

 

[97spiderfan]

I'm not so sure that I agree on this. Deion Taylor had that crazy sidewinder shot, but I think that he had head (confidence) issues as well. He played very tentative, which is often the giveaway.

Nelson had a few good offensive games. But, his game has significant "areas of needed improvement" if he is going to be a high level A-10 player. Based upon what we saw this year, Nelson's defense is well below major college level. He doesn't pass the ball with college point guard skill, and his ball handling was shaky at best (2.0 assist to 1.9 turnovers). I personally don't like the way that he palms the ball while dribbling, but if the officials aren't going to call it, reality is that is a minor thing.

Offensively, Nelson was 30% from 3, 36% from 2, and 72% free throws, below where the Spiders need him to be. Most often, when he tried to get to the rim his shot was blocked or he threw the ball away. He had some nightmare games to go along with his good ones.

Bottom line, he has a long way to go. Was it fair to anoint him king and raise the pre-season bar to unreasonable expectation, probably not. It is going to take a lot of improvement to get him to the point where he is a high level A-10 performer. Far more than just a bump in the road in my opinion. Can he become a top level player, maybe, will be up to him. I don't think it will be next year.

Good post. Yes, I only noted that he could be a great offensive player if he can get his head right. In contrast, his defense, as you noted, needs a ton of work.

As for Deion, yes, he had back surgery, but lots of guys have back surgery and come back. But when he came back his confidence was gone as well. Deion freshman year was a player who played with moxie. After his surgery, he played to not make the bad play a lot (which unfortunately is a play style that Mooney likes).

 

[SpiderK]

I'm not so sure that I agree on this. Deion Taylor had that crazy sidewinder shot, but I think that he had head (confidence) issues as well. He played very tentative, which is often the giveaway.

Nelson had a few good offensive games. But, his game has significant "areas of needed improvement" if he is going to be a high level A-10 player. Based upon what we saw this year, Nelson's defense is well below major college level. He doesn't pass the ball with college point guard skill, and his ball handling was shaky at best (2.0 assist to 1.9 turnovers). I personally don't like the way that he palms the ball while dribbling, but if the officials aren't going to call it, reality is that is a minor thing.

Offensively, Nelson was 30% from 3, 36% from 2, and 72% free throws, below where the Spiders need him to be. Most often, when he tried to get to the rim his shot was blocked or he threw the ball away. He had some nightmare games to go along with his good ones.

Bottom line, he has a long way to go. Was it fair to anoint him king and raise the pre-season bar to unreasonable expectation, probably not. It is going to take a lot of improvement to get him to the point where he is a high level A-10 performer. Far more than just a bump in the road in my opinion. Can he become a top level player, maybe, will be up to him. I don't think it will be next year.

Nelson did a nice job getting back to 72% from the free throw line. He started out about 2 for 20.