I though Bigelow was good defensively and he rebounded, hit a couple of shots, and had a nice block.
but yeah.
2nd game of the Brooklyn Miracle - Game Thread vs Goo Moos
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but yeah.
Shitshow, but par for the course.
Clean house. Start at the AD level and work down.
Dr. G calliing Moon a hall of fame coach unironically was the coach on coach slurpfest that keeps coaches in jobs.
sman - you watch a lot of bball. I'm sure you know the reason for the iso play was bc that was the only way UR could score. The offense didn't work with these players. I said this at like game 6.
They couldn't shoot, couldn't pass or dribble all year within its constructs and yet the SYSTEM is all that matters. Just keep running handoffs that the other team knows are coming so they can knock it off a guy's leg. Let Grace dribble 22 times, to back in only to pass out at the 4s mark of the shot clock. Keep the 7 footer on the bench last 4m to save him for next season despite him having a season best day. Let Bigelow shoot 3s and Nelson shoot terrible 2s. Never let Roche near the court bc he might make a 3. Never let the guy 11-11 at the FT line touch the ball late in position to draw a foul.
Shitshow. Clean house. A new system is desperately needed.
Clean house. Start at the AD level and work down.
Dr. G calliing Moon a hall of fame coach unironically was the coach on coach slurpfest that keeps coaches in jobs.
sman - you watch a lot of bball. I'm sure you know the reason for the iso play was bc that was the only way UR could score. The offense didn't work with these players. I said this at like game 6.
They couldn't shoot, couldn't pass or dribble all year within its constructs and yet the SYSTEM is all that matters. Just keep running handoffs that the other team knows are coming so they can knock it off a guy's leg. Let Grace dribble 22 times, to back in only to pass out at the 4s mark of the shot clock. Keep the 7 footer on the bench last 4m to save him for next season despite him having a season best day. Let Bigelow shoot 3s and Nelson shoot terrible 2s. Never let Roche near the court bc he might make a 3. Never let the guy 11-11 at the FT line touch the ball late in position to draw a foul.
Shitshow. Clean house. A new system is desperately needed.
I have zero percent faith that running the same crap system will get him more looks next year.
His usage this year was one of the staff's biggest blunders IMO, and that says a lot considering how the season went.
His usage this year was one of the staff's biggest blunders IMO, and that says a lot considering how the season went.
I don't hate our offense. I do hate the way we ran the offense most of this year though. I think our cuts are half-assed ... or we cut and decide we're not open so we jog through the cut. and I think that the basic rule for high post player in this offense is that when a guy cuts, if the defender turns his back and doesn't see the ball then make the tight window pass. I'm yelling "throw it" all the time. the cutter doesn't have to be wide open if the defender can't see the ball.
and I think that when Matt or Neal dribble 22 times backing someone down that perimeter guys need to cut or slide to open spots or just pull their defender away ... something more than standing still.
We got a Top 12 finish in the league. 4 sellouts and Noyes got a SportsCenter Top 10 for his dunk. We defeated Umass by a tourney record yesterday. The folks at Lakewood Manor and the schoolkids were highly entertained throughout.
In spite of the adversity, the season was a tremendous success. On to 2024.
In spite of the adversity, the season was a tremendous success. On to 2024.
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Fire Hardt. Has to start somewhere.
His legacy resulted in a Tuesday 9:30 a.m. hot wings buffet at the A10 tournament.
9:30 a.m. On a Tuesday.
That's enough for me to need to move on.
His legacy resulted in a Tuesday 9:30 a.m. hot wings buffet at the A10 tournament.
9:30 a.m. On a Tuesday.
That's enough for me to need to move on.
Is this serious or parody? If the former....damn. If the later....LOL.
the UR reception before the UMass game was 9:30 a.m. at Buffalo Wild Wings.
Never change, stay the course.
Never change, stay the course.
Why did Nelson play 33….2 pts, 1 assist (I don’t remember seeing,) 0 steals, and 1 horrible turnover. He’s got a lot of work to do.
8legs1dream
Graduate Assistant
You are selling him short. You left out his highest stat total from the game, 4 fouls.
I only was able to watch the last two minutes of the game today (since our record got us playing during work hours) and holy cow, that was a perfect reflection of the awful end of game play that happened ALL year.
Our offense has been “give it to Burton” all year and yet, the shot we took was Grace from NBA range and then Nelson just throw it to the other team at the end of the game? That’s just ridiculous. We need to burn it all down but we won’t.
Our offense has been “give it to Burton” all year and yet, the shot we took was Grace from NBA range and then Nelson just throw it to the other team at the end of the game? That’s just ridiculous. We need to burn it all down but we won’t.
Nothing you described should surprise anyone. We have practically no ability to close out games when up with under 4 or 2 minutes. End of game all season have been disasters. You couldn’t draw up our many end of game failures if you tried. Beyond words.
But apparently no one in the administration looks at the chat board. Ya know. Just sayin’.
Excellent question. Would love to hear an answer to it. Don't expect one is forthcoming.
It sure as hell isn't because UR was already lighting it up from 3.
I'd love a breakdown of the +/- on any lineup that had both bigs and Nelson on the court. Other than the game ending 11-2 or whatever run it was, those lineups seemed by far the most clogged and ineffective on both ends of the court today to me. GK was right, Goose should have been at PG with a rotation of guys on the wings.
Never change, stay the course.
Oh he was high on the GK list too. But he’s skipped a level now. Someone like St. John’s should probably get him but they’ll do something stupid.
This team folded like a cheap suit in the last two minutes. I have been a diehard fan since the 98-99 season, and I can't remember a team that was worse at the end of games as this one.
I don't understand why Quinn wasn't in at the end. And Roche not much at all.
In the post-game, they said the play was designed for Grace but he was too far out for the shot. And I knew as soon as that 12-0 run (?) started I had seen this movie before. WAY too many times, especially this season.
Such a frustrating end to such a frustrating season. Even with all our faults we typically play best at the end of the season, so I just don't understand why the chemistry never developed and why we were so consistently inconsistent (except with respect to the parts of our games that were remarkably consistent...namely, missed threes and bad shot selections).
Yesterday, we looked like we could repeat from last year. In the first 30 or so minutes today it looked like it could go either way. And then just complete meltdown. AGAIN.
In the post-game, they said the play was designed for Grace but he was too far out for the shot. And I knew as soon as that 12-0 run (?) started I had seen this movie before. WAY too many times, especially this season.
Such a frustrating end to such a frustrating season. Even with all our faults we typically play best at the end of the season, so I just don't understand why the chemistry never developed and why we were so consistently inconsistent (except with respect to the parts of our games that were remarkably consistent...namely, missed threes and bad shot selections).
Yesterday, we looked like we could repeat from last year. In the first 30 or so minutes today it looked like it could go either way. And then just complete meltdown. AGAIN.
8legs1dream
Graduate Assistant
UMass game was total fools gold. We just lucked into playing the only team more dysfunctional than we are in the first round.
And I called it 😏
And I called it 😏
Roche should be the starting 2-guard next year. He runs hot and cold, as many shooters do, but at least he IS a shooter, and we don't really have any of them.
A question that will never be asked from our cucked media
My observations:
1. The fish and cheese pairing of Quinn/Grace once again; felt like we looked better with Bigs as the four
2. I will miss Tyler Burton
3. Nelson at least made some effort to penetrate and score. Has to find ways to get to the rim or stop/fake until his midrange is effective.
4. Bigelow should be on 3pt hiatus until, maybe, forever
5. Quinn showed he could be effective against a big good big guy, more of that please
6. Put out an APB on Roche
7. We might have a coaching problem
1. The fish and cheese pairing of Quinn/Grace once again; felt like we looked better with Bigs as the four
2. I will miss Tyler Burton
3. Nelson at least made some effort to penetrate and score. Has to find ways to get to the rim or stop/fake until his midrange is effective.
4. Bigelow should be on 3pt hiatus until, maybe, forever
5. Quinn showed he could be effective against a big good big guy, more of that please
6. Put out an APB on Roche
7. We might have a coaching problem
Correct.
Yesterday we played well against an awful team. Today we played well enough in spite of a 13 point turnaround to recover and go up by 4. We couldn’t close out because we never learned to this season in tight games against fair to good teams. GMU was one of those fair / good teams. We beat ourselves again.
Can’t agree more about the half-assed laziness of this team. Burton played hard, Quinn did the best he could, Bigelow had spurts of energy. The rest, yes even Goose, played lazy and scared most of the year.
MrT, we have been in agreement a lot lately. Nelson definitely needs a stop and pop or tear drop. He has nothing inside but getting stuffed. Nice list 1 thru 7
If you watched Colgate play tonight, you saw a team that cuts hard. Also, they attack off the dribble with hard, straight line drives to the basket. Over and over. That's coaching. I bitched and complained for years about the general softness and "culture of comfort" under Mooney. It is hidden every blue moon, but looks particularly ugly when we don't have super players.
One of the hallmarks of Beilein's system, which he explained in very detailed fashion when he arrived, was this precise point. He talked about how players in his system needed to make precise "L-cuts" on the court but that when players got tired or lazy, those could to turn into more "C-shaped" cuts, making them much less effective. But he drilled it into his guys never to do this. The result was a precisely-run offense that never turned the ball over and that got the open looks it needed to succeed.
What we are seeing in our current iteration is far from this, unfortunately.
wow.
for the record, I 100% feel more comfortable with Nelson improving here rather than trying to find a comparable talent in the portal.
Nelson was a terrific recruit. he missed a lot of time. he didn't have a great year but his best ball is infront of him. I still think he can be be really good.
8legs1dream
Graduate Assistant
I want him to be good for us and I think he will be. I also think it's time to wonder why a kid who was good enough to be the state player of the year in a great basketball state and also win two state titles with two different programs struggled so much in our system.
Assuredly it's not because he forgot how to play basketball. We need to play a style that is conducive to the success of the players we have now, not the ones we hope they will become in three years. Try to win EVERY year, not once every four years. The coaches need to figure this out. It's literally their job.
Assuredly it's not because he forgot how to play basketball. We need to play a style that is conducive to the success of the players we have now, not the ones we hope they will become in three years. Try to win EVERY year, not once every four years. The coaches need to figure this out. It's literally their job.
8legs1dream
Graduate Assistant
whatever the explanation, it definitely is NOT Mooney's fault
I won't. but I then again, I won't post that I hope a kid transfers after he struggles as a redshirt freshman.
Hopefully we can work on our weaknesses, come
back to school more focused as well as mentally tougher!
Looks like we really took a look out of Goo Moos yesterday - getting slaughtered by SLU, 61-38 with 11 min left.
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