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I think it's a little different with guards though. 3 guard lineups are common. A good transfer guard could look at our team now and feel he is clearly better than everyone except maybe Johnston, so why wouldn't he come here and why wouldn't we want him here?
Hopefully the freshmen can be ready and make an impact. But, let's say they aren't. Our 3 guards are Johnston, Thomas, and Tyne. I think we can definitely improve that, and should still try to improve that. The guard position is just too important to just hope we have freshmen who are ready, or hope Tyne learns how to shoot, or hope Thomas gives us a lot more than he did at DePaul.
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agreed, but I'm saying it depends on what you had to tell Johnston and Thomas to get their commitment.
if we're still recruiting guards, I guess that says we didn't tell them we're just adding 2.
you took the words right out of my mouth, GK.
With the portal the way it is, I would hope we never tell guys that. Look at GW3. Do you think we told him he wouldn't play when we went after him? Of course not. We told him what his fit might be, right? Then, others beat him out. What if a freshmen like Richardson beats out Thomas? Do we not play him because we promised Thomas something?
G Johnston
G Thomas (as of now).
G/wing ? Someone with size who can shoot
F Daughtry
Big Walz
To be really good, I just think we still need to add a guard or wing who can shoot. That spot should be wide open. The freshmen, Tyne, Tanner, AP, or a portal guy? Who wants it? And, it could be 2 spots open because Thomas might not start.
G Thomas (as of now).
G/wing ? Someone with size who can shoot
F Daughtry
Big Walz
To be really good, I just think we still need to add a guard or wing who can shoot. That spot should be wide open. The freshmen, Tyne, Tanner, AP, or a portal guy? Who wants it? And, it could be 2 spots open because Thomas might not start.
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no, nothing is promised regarding playing time. I'm talking roster spots. I know coaches tell kids "we have 3 spots right now to fill in the portal, and we're looking for an X, a Y, and a Z".
as a coach, you don't tell a kid how much you want them, get his commitment, and then recruit over him for the same position 2 weeks later because a good player at his spot was available. treating kids like that will give you an awful reputation.
Roster spots? Portal guys have to make decisions now like high school kids did years ago. Same position? We have guys who can all play PG, G, and wing. Kind of hard to not recruit over guys. I certainly hope we aren't the only team in college basketball who doesn't recruit over guys.
This reminds me of our Bizjack debate when I said we absolutely should recruit him and u said we are done recruiting guards, and 2 days later he was in for a visit.
And, didn't we have Boldin Jr, a 6'4 guard, scheduled for a visit? Not sure what is going on with his NIL stuff, but as of a few days ago, he was scheduled for an April 21st visit.
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I don't think you can promise anyone a spot. You can promise them a certain amount of money, and that may or may not be the same thing, but if you sign a guy for $100k and then he sucks, I hope you have the wherewithal to play someone else.
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Your pal got about 400k per win, is that good money?
a coach sees a kid at a position ... or sometimes a combination of positions. they're 100% telling a potential transfer where and how they plan to use him. the term "recruit over" isn't indefinite. of course you recruit for the same position in different years. but you don't do it in the same recruiting year unless there are multple openings at that spot. not if you want a kid. you're competing with other coaches for these kids.
yes, it's very possible we see Boldin as a guy who could play the 3 ... or at least as a guard who could play with the other transfer guards as a 3rd guard in your 3 guard lineup. he was called "a slashing wing" in his transfer announcement. he'd compete at the 2 and 3 spots. I see him competing more with Tanner, Harper and Richardson for time than with Tyne or Johnston or Thomas.
But, this doesn't make sense. Why does he specifically have to compete with with either group? There are scenarios, as you just said, where a guy like him could play with Thomas and Johnson, but not Tyne, right? So, he would be competing with Tyne or the other two when we go 3 guards. Then, we give Johnston a break, and now you have Tyne and Thomas on the floor, and he can compete with Tanner or whoever with this lineup. Or, because he is a guard, maybe he plays minutes with only Johnston in the backcourt with him at times. Do you really not see a player like Boldin competing with a player like Thomas for minutes?
I just don't see how you can say we aren't gonna recruit any more guards because we don't want to recruit over anyone, but when I give u the Boldin example, you basically say "yes, but"....as if there is any but there.
yes, he can come in for Tyne as long as we have a point out there.
I just think we must see him as a guy who can play the 3. that's probably the spot we're looking for, with Daughtry a 4 who could fill in at 5 if needed. we do have a bunch of freshmen who can play the 3, but just Tanner who played there last year. and before you say it, 3 can be a guard as long as he can defend a 3. Boldin does most of his damage at the rim anyway. he's not a shooter or an assist guy. he's kind of a foward being called a guard because of his height.
there's a role for a guy like Boldin. not sure it's a fit here though. we need some perimeter shooting. he was 13-58. Thomas was 11-41. Daughtry was 12-30. we know how Tyne and AP shot. I feel like we're going back in time. we're putting a lot on Johnston.
I just think we must see him as a guy who can play the 3. that's probably the spot we're looking for, with Daughtry a 4 who could fill in at 5 if needed. we do have a bunch of freshmen who can play the 3, but just Tanner who played there last year. and before you say it, 3 can be a guard as long as he can defend a 3. Boldin does most of his damage at the rim anyway. he's not a shooter or an assist guy. he's kind of a foward being called a guard because of his height.
there's a role for a guy like Boldin. not sure it's a fit here though. we need some perimeter shooting. he was 13-58. Thomas was 11-41. Daughtry was 12-30. we know how Tyne and AP shot. I feel like we're going back in time. we're putting a lot on Johnston.
Rahsool Diggins into the portal to try for another go-around. Another one of those guys who shouldn't have any eligibility left, but we'll see what happens. Saw very limited action his first season at UConn but enough that it counted, and then three more at UMass.
Also, formerly of Duquesne, coming back for his 27th season, Auburn Tiger Chad Baker-Mazara, has entered the portal.
I’m waiting for someone to say 2 out of 3 season in the NCAA ain’t bad…
That’s the coach that gets “Meatloaf”.
I agree about the shooting. Was focused on his size and guard position, but would much rather have a shooter.
I don't love the rule, but it's pretty cut and dry. injury didn't end his freshman season and he played in January and February.
We can look all day at portal hits and misses, but in the end they have to play within Mooney’s System. They are cogs in a wheel, and Mooney never adapts to a skill driven system. So there’s that.
Obviously, you missed the announcement of next season’s starting five:
Front court of Golden, Cline, & Quinn
Backcourt of Gilyard and King
Last week u didn’t want to use ships beyond 13. Now it’s foolish not to. Are u & spiderstudent17 sharing account.
Grad transfer too. Impressive graduating 3 years at NW.
GW is looking like an A10 contender.
Especially with Jones, Burton, and Cayo as the bench…
Need to add another shooter. We look like a mid tier A-10 team right now. Need one more big impact piece to give us a chance at top 4.
Mid-tier seems optimistic perhaps. Too many unknowns about who projects into the starting 5.
I mean maybe?
I hear u, but I think we are better than at least 5 teams right now, which puts us in the 6-10 range. I think we have had a lot more portal success than the other bottom teams from last year.
How much did you pit in for the billboard? Have you gotten any return on your investment?
How many years ago did you put money in for your billboard? Have you gotten any return on your money?
I was driving through Richmond this week and saw the big VCU billboard welcoming their new coach. I looking for an adios to ours to come next, but alas….
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Your 6-10 is nothing more than projection. Even if we finish in 6-10 range that’s still unacceptable after 20 years, after a disastrous season this year, and 2 years removed from winning in season conference.
In a 14-team league (U Mass leaving) that consistently has 3 to 4 bottom dwellers, finishing 6-10 is a LOW bar.
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