Horrendous call on 3 pt shot. Didnt touch him. With these refs you cant go near a 3 pt shooter.
2023–24 NET Ratings
- Thread starter SFspidur
- Start date
F Kempom!!! Why his crap is even discussed is ridiculous. Does the committee know basketball or is all they do is rely of anywho who creates a metrics?
anyone who watched the UR game and also watched any of the atrocity of Cincinnati/Kansas State can see that UR is a tournament team vs. that drek.
UVa continues to get murdered on a regular basis.
UVa continues to get murdered on a regular basis.
Its totally possible.
But its only a tool, not that important blah blah blah. It is the only thing keeping Spiders from being a lock.
Why would you expect a team's rating to increase if it wins by 3 at home against a lower ranked team? That is expected.
I'm glad we don't win by 10. Then the committe would expect it every game. As is, we can point to our wins and say "that's our style."
This seems rational.
btw, anyone seen spiderman? am worried about his health after this game - hoping he's just watching on a delay or something. I was worried about my own health, honestly, especially as they cut into that 10 point lead.
This seems rational.
btw, anyone seen spiderman? am worried about his health after this game - hoping he's just watching on a delay or something. I was worried about my own health, honestly, especially as they cut into that 10 point lead.
Well I expect a decent rating system to place a heavy emphasis on actually winning the game. Both teams were clearly playing to win at the end, not make their efficiency numbers look good. And since our odds of winning were well below 100%, why shouldn't our rating increase after getting the win?
Furthermore, I want teams selected for the tournament based on their actual records during the season, not what an imperfect algorithm thinks their record should have been based on efficiency or other metrics.
We could totally ruin basketball by just handing the championship to whichever team had the best rating according to that year's favored rating system. Maybe a lesser prize for the team that would have won it if the previous rating system was still in place. Or throw away W/L records in conference standings and just rank them by efficiency ratings.... Heard at imaginary game, "That was really stupid of him to foul at the end of game. Sure, it worked out when they missed the foul shot and we won the game on a buzzer beater, but if you do the math, on average you'll hurt your efficiency ratings with that decision. And all for what -- just a small chance to win a game? That could cost us our Ken Pom banner."
The NET was created because strong mid majors were figuring out the formula to their benefit. Once the NCAA caught on, created this BS metric to help out the P5 schools. Simple as that.
Ok
So the fact that uR has barely moved up in NET after compiling a 14-2 A10 record means they were “expected” to win those 14 games and by the expected amount??? Your rationale is insane but more insane is the idea that this nutty way of determining rankings may be real.
Weird thing is 2011, you seem to think its perfectly fine.
Last edited:
The boston college loss was terrible in hindsight. And we should’ve beat Colorado and then taken FSU to the mat. I would’ve subbed that scenario with any other of our two wins.
But we are where we are. The NET is a joke. The committee selection process is a joke. It’s all so biased to the P6 and who they think will garner more views.
Reality is the team is so much better than how we played in November / December.
But we are where we are. The NET is a joke. The committee selection process is a joke. It’s all so biased to the P6 and who they think will garner more views.
Reality is the team is so much better than how we played in November / December.
UR soars from 72 to 71.
VCU plummets from 74 to 75.
Dayton 4-4 on the road in the A10 remains at 21.
Bonne remains elite in the NET rankings at 67.
VCU plummets from 74 to 75.
Dayton 4-4 on the road in the A10 remains at 21.
Bonne remains elite in the NET rankings at 67.
& Maryland right above us. Maryland? 15–14 Maryland who did nothing ooc. Gtfo.
Nope. It takes blowout wins as discussed. Unfortunately. If we won by 25 last night it’s different. Look at Pitt. From 80s to 44 just over last 6 weeks. Immediate jumps of 14, 11, 7, 5. Why? They won by margins (none that good, bubble UVA the best) including a couple of big blowouts.
Hopefully the committee is tuning into a lot of actual games and not just analyzing numbers.
I know I'm biased, but watching us last night (and much of the season) we look like a tourney team. Scoring at all levels, star power, winning close games and blowouts. Definitely compared to these barely over .500 power teams we will be competing with for a spot if we don't get the auto.
Yes I know - win the A10 tourney and we won't have to worry about it.
I know I'm biased, but watching us last night (and much of the season) we look like a tourney team. Scoring at all levels, star power, winning close games and blowouts. Definitely compared to these barely over .500 power teams we will be competing with for a spot if we don't get the auto.
Yes I know - win the A10 tourney and we won't have to worry about it.
If they’ve fallen and NET is as reported above, they can do no wrong. Living off of OOC wins. Our in conference performance takes backseat to Dayton, and that sucks. The losses OOC for us seem to be real anchors for us. Screw the NET. As of today, we are deserving.
It is horrifically worse! But still it would be better to bring the tourny back there.
I recall going back later and they had beer pong in the casinos just to get people in the door.
The whole thing is a F-en joke. I know it wont happen but there is a time where CM and other coaches should speak up. There are so many examples of crazy rankings. The TV guys need to start publicly discussing it. It really is silly BS at this point.
Maybe the CBS producers will advise the committee that Jordan King would be a great player to introduce to America!
Tournament producers love a great story and King has one!
There are usually a couple of non P6 players every Tournament that go off big time and catch America’s attention.
Hope the A-10 commissioner is working her connections along with Hardt, President Hallock and any other A-10, UR leaders with the statue to make a difference
But all that might not work, just go ahead and win Brooklyn!
Go Spiders!
They can do no wrong as many other teams that had high rankings early can do no wrong. And opposite is non-P6 teams can do no right.
A team of mostly transfers bonding and dominating. A team picked 11th that could finish first and never has before. A national POY contender. A longtime coach who overcame heart surgery. Lots of great storylines.
Hey guys, get Keith Gill on the phone pronto.
Keith great news. We just found a 401k from your time here. We’re really sorry, some kind of accounting error. It had a 10000% match.
The TV announcers stood up for us last night. Commented that both teams were deserving regardless of NET rank. They almost seemed pissed about it.
A decent ranking system does exactly what this system is *attempting* to do. Winning a 3 point game at home against an equally ranked team shouldn't move the needle much.
The system actually gives teams that aren't able to play top 25 or top 50 teams night in and night out a chance by winning their schedule convincingly.
The premise is correct. The credit given for margin needs to be weighted less heavily. Simple as that.
Don’t disagree with anything you’ve said. Moving onto other criteria not embedded in NET, can someone in the know detail a bit more of how committee uses other metrics, etc to evaluate for tourney consideration.
Yes. They use whatever other information they need to justify selecting P6 teams and ignore whatever other information might prompt them to select non-P6 teams.
Ok. Makes sense. Seems practical and logical. So we are on the outside looking in. I still think we’re going to make it - especially if we play like last night.
Guaranteed bid on winning out to the finals of the A10 tourny. 21 of 24 wins to finish the season with solid wins and road wins in there + outright A10 regular season title.
