What next?
- Thread starter I-M-UR
- Start date
4-4. 4 home wins, 4 road losses. Plus it keeps us right at .500 where we have been pretty much all year. To predict anything else would basically discount what we have seen out of the first 2/3 of the season.
5 point loss at Bona. 3 point loss at UMass in OT. 2 point loss at St. Joe's on a half-court three-pointer at the horn. Win by 2 at Mason in OT. Win all 4 four home games. Our moronic fan base should settle for nothing less than .500!
URFan1 posted on 2/9/2015...
we enjoy the effort and energy the kids put forth and we do all we can as fans to support their efforts -- how can we quit on Kendall in his senior year?
100% agree.
we enjoy the effort and energy the kids put forth and we do all we can as fans to support their efforts -- how can we quit on Kendall in his senior year?
100% agree.
I have, and will support the team, but I can't say I don't enjoy watching a team struggle and in my mind under achieve. I can't count the number of games I've forced myself to go to just to support the seniors over the decades. Some of you use the players, in the sense 'continue to support the players (which by default included the leadership/coaches)' I firmly believe things need to change in management or we doomed to this kind of performance for a long time. If there is no downside for the professionals (ie coaches) nothing will every change. The downside preasure is: not attending games, not contributing and complaining (which I'm becoming good at) other than that what other means is there to push for change?
30 plus minutes for ANO,TA,TJ, and K0 every every game because anything else just isnt't working to WIN.
This week basically killed any chance we had of sniffing an at-large bid -- not that one was likely anyway -- so the rest of the games are just a tune-up for Brooklyn and/or a chance to boost our NIT resume. Nothing more, nothing less.
As Dennis Green once said, "They were who we thought they were!". This team is average and that's all it will be, there has been no real improvement over the course of the year except maybe our second halves of games. But since we never play a single 1st half, then it never really matters.
Game grades from URI:
Allen - A---would have been an A but his foul shooting was erratic.
Cline - D---really bad game, and someone please teach him how to set an actual screen when he flashes to the top of the key?
Anthony - C+---one of the worst games that a 24 point scorer could have. Just was trying to hard (good thing) and didn't turn it on until too late. Foul shooting was bad for him as well.
Taylor - D---not sure what he really provided today except poor 3-pt shooting and terrible free throws.
Davis - D- ---didn't notice him at all on the court except when he picked up fouls.
S Jones - D---really really really bad 1st half and was making way too many mental mistakes all game between fouls, shot selection, ball security, etc.
J Jones - B---came in and provided at least a little spark with the big 3 and some defense.
Ododa - INC---incomplete due to the injury.
Smithen - INC---not enough time to warrant a grade but didn't foul quick enough at the very end.
Coach - D- ---really not seeing why he would be back next year right now.
The REFS - D---one of the worst officiated games I've seen all year on both sides with some questionable foul calls and non-calls. WE got jobbed I felt on 2 and-1s down the stretch that were waved off and with our foul shooting yesterday that was a death knell. Plus the 2 technicals were a little ridiculous.
Game grades from URI:
Allen - A---would have been an A but his foul shooting was erratic.
Cline - D---really bad game, and someone please teach him how to set an actual screen when he flashes to the top of the key?
Anthony - C+---one of the worst games that a 24 point scorer could have. Just was trying to hard (good thing) and didn't turn it on until too late. Foul shooting was bad for him as well.
Taylor - D---not sure what he really provided today except poor 3-pt shooting and terrible free throws.
Davis - D- ---didn't notice him at all on the court except when he picked up fouls.
S Jones - D---really really really bad 1st half and was making way too many mental mistakes all game between fouls, shot selection, ball security, etc.
J Jones - B---came in and provided at least a little spark with the big 3 and some defense.
Ododa - INC---incomplete due to the injury.
Smithen - INC---not enough time to warrant a grade but didn't foul quick enough at the very end.
Coach - D- ---really not seeing why he would be back next year right now.
The REFS - D---one of the worst officiated games I've seen all year on both sides with some questionable foul calls and non-calls. WE got jobbed I felt on 2 and-1s down the stretch that were waved off and with our foul shooting yesterday that was a death knell. Plus the 2 technicals were a little ridiculous.
I love Kendal's heart but I do have one comment; When it's tight he goes to extremes, single handedly trying to win the game by taking over the offense ie. going to the hoop (1 on 4 if needed), everyone else just watches. He's got a difficult task being the major points producer but also a point guard. He needs to get others in the offense, for better or worse. Ced had the same impulse. We end up with a lot of players who go into their shell during crunch time.
he scored like 20 in the 2nd half of each of the last two games. I'm definitely ok with him looking to score. and while it would take its toll on him, I'd like him in that mode all game long. he sometimes defers too much early. he's a scorer. that's what he does. if he's just distributing, he isn't as much an asset. his scoring makes up for any size limitations on defense.
At this point we have to put everything on Brooklyn. Best case scenario is getting a 2nd round bye, but we probably need to win out for that to happen. Kenpom has us favored in all but 1 of our last 8 games, but we have very little chance of winning out. A first round bye is pretty much guaranteed, Duquesne, Fordham, GMU and SLU are going to take the bottom spots. We need to try and fix the problems we have in the games we have left, try to go for a 2nd round bye, and hope for the best in Brooklyn.
We will lose every game where we are behind, in crunch time, because Kendall is going to be the only one handling the ball. No passes, just Kendall driving to the basket. Every team we play, already knows this. Kendall cannot complete the basket, and can only pray, that the refs bail him out. No matter how well any of the forwards are playing, they are ignored at the ends of games.
The plus of this strategy, is that we burn little clock time in our offense, the negative, is that it's not an efficient offense. I'd rather see Terry, TJ, or Alonzo, score 2, with a foul possible for 3 point play. With Anthony we pick up just 1 or 2 points on every possession, at best, and sometimes, zero points.
The plus of this strategy, is that we burn little clock time in our offense, the negative, is that it's not an efficient offense. I'd rather see Terry, TJ, or Alonzo, score 2, with a foul possible for 3 point play. With Anthony we pick up just 1 or 2 points on every possession, at best, and sometimes, zero points.
Kendall scored on coast-to-coast layups about 3 times in a row in the last 45 seconds of the game yesterday. He seems to be doing pretty well driving the lane most of the time. On the occasions when he gets in deep and looks to pass, normally the pass bounces off someone's head or goes out of bounds because no one is expecting the pass. I blame the post guys for not being aware often enough, but at the same time, Kendall does normally shoot it when he's in there, so it's hard to expect a pass.
Spiderman,
I'm watching the same games you are, and, against better teams, Kendall cannot complete a layup, particularly, late in games. When he does, it's phenomenal, because it's usually from an awkward position. Kendall can't dunk the ball, and the ball has a long way to travel. Steve Zach blocked one of Kendall's shot, from about his shoulder level. Kendall has the heart of a lion, and plays bigger than his size, but attempting late game layups against players a foot taller, is not one of his strengths.
I'm watching the same games you are, and, against better teams, Kendall cannot complete a layup, particularly, late in games. When he does, it's phenomenal, because it's usually from an awkward position. Kendall can't dunk the ball, and the ball has a long way to travel. Steve Zach blocked one of Kendall's shot, from about his shoulder level. Kendall has the heart of a lion, and plays bigger than his size, but attempting late game layups against players a foot taller, is not one of his strengths.
+1, Spiderman. Kendall, is, not, the, problem with, this, team. Nor, is SDJ. The, problem, is, a lot, higher, up than, that....
Pa,
I was in your camp until the Rhode Island game. I don't think we have a postseason opportunity, unless it's the CBI. We're without Alonzo for at least two games, and we're not a good team at the end of games. I've given my theory as to why that is, others will have different opinions, but whatever, we don't close games well.
Thus, in my opinion, we're playing for next year. We only lose one player, and get at least 5 new players,.
I was in your camp until the Rhode Island game. I don't think we have a postseason opportunity, unless it's the CBI. We're without Alonzo for at least two games, and we're not a good team at the end of games. I've given my theory as to why that is, others will have different opinions, but whatever, we don't close games well.
Thus, in my opinion, we're playing for next year. We only lose one player, and get at least 5 new players,.
For the last 2-3 minutes, Terry had open looks from 3 and wouldn't pull the trigger. Just trading 2-pts down the stretch wasn't going to cut into that lead. While we lost the game due to giving URI double-digit 2nd chance pts plus horrific FT shooting (at least for us), getting only two 3-pt FGs yesterday (TA and JJ) played a role as well. Give credit to Josh for taking that 3 from the wing; he's made others from there so wish he'd do it more, but then he has to be in the game.
SpiderFan, Kendall was 10 of 11 from the free throw line.You have a pretty high standard for foul shooting. Plus he had 28 points...I'm glad you weren't a teacher giving me grades.
This post was edited on 2/10 10:37 AM by MacSpider
This post was edited on 2/10 10:37 AM by MacSpider
Spider Fan is oblivious to Anthony's stats.....SF should apologize for entire post........all the D's a and Inc's vs best team in the conference with our biggest player in the hospital and the team fights back at the end. There are some posts on this board that are among the worst in the A10.
Agree TBSpyder - our post-season chances rest on the A10 tourney.
ANO was playing well - but his absence doesn't change my outlook too much.
I still think we come in around 4-4 down the stretch and finish middle of the pack.
Yes - we can look to next year, but again - we lose our best player - and we can sit back all we want and say - ShawnDre will step up, ANO will be more consistent, Allen will be a force, Cline will be a difference maker - but those are all things we said this year WITH one of the best players in the league in Anthony. So my hope for next year is going to be very limited.
ANO was playing well - but his absence doesn't change my outlook too much.
I still think we come in around 4-4 down the stretch and finish middle of the pack.
Yes - we can look to next year, but again - we lose our best player - and we can sit back all we want and say - ShawnDre will step up, ANO will be more consistent, Allen will be a force, Cline will be a difference maker - but those are all things we said this year WITH one of the best players in the league in Anthony. So my hope for next year is going to be very limited.
re: Nor, is SDJ.
end of wake forest game
end of half at LaSalle
numerous ill timed turnovers (not a lot of them, just when they happen) in other close games
By the way, I'm not saying he is the only problem, but he's committed some players at crucial parts of games (that goes along w/ TJ, KA and others)
Your disdain for others is well known, eventually the players have to make some plays.
end of wake forest game
end of half at LaSalle
numerous ill timed turnovers (not a lot of them, just when they happen) in other close games
By the way, I'm not saying he is the only problem, but he's committed some players at crucial parts of games (that goes along w/ TJ, KA and others)
Your disdain for others is well known, eventually the players have to make some plays.
Kendall and SDJ are the problems, ha. Come on. If we are going to lay the problem at the feet at specific players, TD and DT have to be at the top of the list. Neither of those 2 can score at all or hit FT's. Yeah, they play hard, but there is more to the game than playing hard.
If those 2 guys get starter minutes next year, next year is going to be the exact same as this year. We can't run our offense with 2 guys who can't score.
We had better hope that Julius is as advertised, Marshall Wood can step in immediately and take those starter minutes. Deion should be getting no more than 10 minutes per game, Trey maybe 15-20 tops.
If those 2 guys get starter minutes next year, next year is going to be the exact same as this year. We can't run our offense with 2 guys who can't score.
We had better hope that Julius is as advertised, Marshall Wood can step in immediately and take those starter minutes. Deion should be getting no more than 10 minutes per game, Trey maybe 15-20 tops.
Finger pointing at players is not only pretty classless but also pretty pointless. Our coaching staff brought them here and developed them. If they lack talent, it's also the coaching staff's fault (or possibly admissions department - but that's another story). Either way, if you need to attack somebody, attack Mooney. "He's 40. He's a man".
Can anyone just accept that we lost to a better team on Sunday? From my seat, Rhody looked like the best team we have played all year. Unfortunately, we have also lost to ten other teams not as good as Rhody.
Can anyone just accept that we lost to a better team on Sunday? From my seat, Rhody looked like the best team we have played all year. Unfortunately, we have also lost to ten other teams not as good as Rhody.
Well, clearly the bottom line with everything at the program lies with Chris. Its just frustrating to see the same guys get run out there game after game and perform or not perform the exact same way and it is just continue on and on. Again, I know that rests with Chris as well.
Just frustrated with the overall and continued state of our mediocre program and then hearing about how much talent we have. If we had the talent that people thought we had, we wouldn't be a stinking .500 ball club. We have some guys that are talented, we also have some players that aren't A-10 talent level players, who play a ton of minutes for us.
Shoot, before the Rhody game you read the boards, it sounded like we all thought we were going to wipe the floor with their overinflated record. I convinced myself we were going to beat them as well. Turns out they have much better players than us and what there coach is 3 years in now on a complete rebuild. How does that happen? That is rhetorical, we know how it happens.
Just frustrated with the overall and continued state of our mediocre program and then hearing about how much talent we have. If we had the talent that people thought we had, we wouldn't be a stinking .500 ball club. We have some guys that are talented, we also have some players that aren't A-10 talent level players, who play a ton of minutes for us.
Shoot, before the Rhody game you read the boards, it sounded like we all thought we were going to wipe the floor with their overinflated record. I convinced myself we were going to beat them as well. Turns out they have much better players than us and what there coach is 3 years in now on a complete rebuild. How does that happen? That is rhetorical, we know how it happens.
Yep.
I'll readily admit that I underestimated the Rams. In candor, i think we were fortunate to be in that ballgame after Alonzo went out.
Hurley obviously knows what he's doing and he's got a 'supportive' admissions office too. For better or worse, he probably won't be long on being the Rhody coach. I'd give him 1 more year at most.
