VCU vs UR

[GKiller]

I hope someone sends this tweet to the entire team. Some might see it is as cocky, but you can been cocky if you back it up. And they back it up ALL OF THE TIME. They are gonna roll us at Siegel Center too.

it won’t matter. U would think it was bulletin board material. & smack talk/playing w chip on shoulder fires up players at any level even youth. But here?...I mean it’s not like this is first chance to shut them up a bit. This group of players has had minimal success vs vcu & we were 7-20 prior under Mooney. Certainly w the coach nothing matters it’s ho hum we competed on to the next one attitude. They bully us take our lunch money & what do we do we just go down another street. To think the coach can motivate & prepare them vs VCU would be dismissing the history. Vcu has earned it but worst part is the program primarily Mooney doesn’t take it personally.

 

[GKiller]

Yes it was a designed play and given the time I believe it was about as good as you would get. Yes Nick was in the corner but Banks for VCU is right there in the passing lane. Grant ran up from the middle then passed to Gilly as Nick cut to the corner. There wasn't another scoring option and Gilly got a decent look given the time. Highly doubt Nick gets that shot off even IF we could have gotten it to him.

yeah I don’t have a problem w last play it was pretty good execution for time remaining & having to go full court. I don’t recall seeing it before under Mooney but Beilein’s teams ran it a couple times very well. Including a win at American University that I attended where I think Rick Houston got fouled.

the prior possession was the issue. Goose had to put up shot at that point. But he was 5th option & got put in difficult spot. No excuse for how we handled. Had plenty of time for someone else to drive when it was obvious they were defending 3 point line hard. U drive & take easy 2 or if they help that’s when u get an open kick out 3.

 

[CarolinaSpider]

Yes it was a designed play and given the time I believe it was about as good as you would get. Yes Nick was in the corner but Banks for VCU is right there in the passing lane. Grant ran up from the middle then passed to Gilly as Nick cut to the corner. There wasn't another scoring option and Gilly got a decent look given the time. Highly doubt Nick gets that shot off even IF we could have gotten it to him.

Agreed thought a good give and go and also remember Gilly as a frosh or soph hitting a game winning shot off a similar play from around same spot.

 

[SpiderDad75]

yeah I don’t have a problem w last play it was pretty good execution for time remaining & having to go full court. I don’t recall seeing it before under Mooney but Beilein’s teams ran it a couple times very well. Including a win at American University that I attended where I think Rick Houston got fouled.

the prior possession was the issue. Goose had to put up shot at that point. But he was 5th option & got put in difficult spot. No excuse for how we handled. Had plenty of time for someone else to drive when it was obvious they were defending 3 point line hard. U drive & take easy 2 or if they help that’s when u get an open kick out 3.

Agree the prior possession not a good one.

 

[8legs1dream]

Agree the prior possession not a good one.

I would be curious to know the thoughts of an "outsider" who has had no previous interaction with our neighbors down the road from this game. How did the atmosphere compare from this on in relation to other big games you have attended this season? Did it seem to you that the coaching staff or team was a little stiff? A little loose? I know you see things in a different light than the rest of us so curious to just know your thoughts in general.

Also do you plan on attending the game at their place?

 

[97spiderfan]

yeah I don’t have a problem w last play it was pretty good execution for time remaining & having to go full court. I don’t recall seeing it before under Mooney but Beilein’s teams ran it a couple times very well. Including a win at American University that I attended where I think Rick Houston got fouled.

the prior possession was the issue. Goose had to put up shot at that point. But he was 5th option & got put in difficult spot. No excuse for how we handled. Had plenty of time for someone else to drive when it was obvious they were defending 3 point line hard. U drive & take easy 2 or if they help that’s when u get an open kick out 3.

It wasn't even the last two possessions. It was all of the points that led up to that.

Missed FT's by senior leaders (Gilly), Cayo (and don't get me started as to how a professional college coaching staff let him get away with changing his FT form into his its current god awful version). Grant throwing another pass into the 3rd row at a critical juncture. Playing a player in Burton who was obviously so mentally not in the game, missing easy bunnies all game. And as always just the general level of extreme tightness that we play with when the game is on the line.

We had every possible advantage in his game. Massive home court advantage, they are playing a bunch of young guys who haven't been on this stage, while we are playing with players who are so experienced with this rivalry, their best players-point guard fouled out of the game. We just gave Grant a ball for 2000 points before the game and yet we hang him out along the 3 point line, where VCU is just begging him to shoot that ball instead of in the post where he can score. We have all of those advantages advantages and who is able to execute at crunch time, they are, and who isn't able to execute, us. Same ole, same ole, rinse and repeat.

And here's the thing, this isn't a typical VCU team that has a Maynor, Graham, iphone stealer dude out there who can just make plays off of their superior skill. Vince Williams made those plays, we got 3 guys on our team with more talent than Vince Williams.

 

[SpiderDad75]

I would be curious to know the thoughts of an "outsider" who has had no previous interaction with our neighbors down the road from this game. How did the atmosphere compare from this on in relation to other big games you have attended this season? Did it seem to you that the coaching staff or team was a little stiff? A little loose? I know you see things in a different light than the rest of us so curious to just know your thoughts in general.

Also do you plan on attending the game at their place?

I thought crowd wise it was pretty good. Best of the season I think. I thought the 2 quick fouls on Nate kinda took some energy from us. I enjoyed the atmosphere but would like to see it like that for every game. Students were great I thought. As far as the staff I think Coach Maurice and Hovde always bring energy. Coach Mooney gets criticized a lot bc he’s not super energetic. I think we have a decent mix of that and that doesn’t mean he doesn’t know what he’s doing. I don’t like when I hear players are soft, fans are soft, they have no heart , they’ve turned on coach etc…

These guys work extremely hard and just like any other person they have off days. I have them all the time and I get we all let our frustrations get the better of us sometimes(I sure have)…including our players. I would guess they are disappointed at some of our losses but by no means do I think they’ve given up. This was my first real exp with the VCU rivalry since we’ve been a part of the family. It felt good, a win would’ve felt better. I thought the refs played a role but we ultimately didn’t take care of ball well in 1st. Didn’t hit shots we needed and Vince Williams -22 pts 10 rbs & 8 Ast played his butt off. They are not a bad team as some have suggested and are really good defensively, which had a lot to do with Tyler not playing well & made him play to his weaknesses I think and a lot of our guys frankly. We weren’t able to beat them off the dribble any or very rarely. I do plan on going to VCUs place when we play again.
I am a little down bc Dji is injured and I know with all my being he could help us. Things haven’t gone the way I think any of us have wanted but it’s where we are. The players just have to keep working and hopefully get back on track this last half. 🕷🏀

 

[Eight Legger]

Couldn't have said it any better, 97.

 

[Spider B]

It's all so predictable. Seen it way to many times. The names on the back change, but same problems persist.

 

[Long Island Spiders]

I thought crowd wise it was pretty good. Best of the season I think. I thought the 2 quick fouls on Nate kinda took some energy from us. I enjoyed the atmosphere but would like to see it like that for every game. Students were great I thought. As far as the staff I think Coach Maurice and Hovde always bring energy. Coach Mooney gets criticized a lot bc he’s not super energetic. I think we have a decent mix of that and that doesn’t mean he doesn’t know what he’s doing. I don’t like when I hear players are soft, fans are soft, they have no heart , they’ve turned on coach etc…

These guys work extremely hard and just like any other person they have off days. I have them all the time and I get we all let our frustrations get the better of us sometimes(I sure have)…including our players. I would guess they are disappointed at some of our losses but by no means do I think they’ve given up. This was my first real exp with the VCU rivalry since we’ve been a part of the family. It felt good, a win would’ve felt better. I thought the refs played a role but we ultimately didn’t take care of ball well in 1st. Didn’t hit shots we needed and Vince Williams -22 pts 10 rbs & 8 Ast played his butt off. They are not a bad team as some have suggested and are really good defensively, which had a lot to do with Tyler not playing well & made him play to his weaknesses I think and a lot of our guys frankly. We weren’t able to beat them off the dribble any or very rarely. I do plan on going to VCUs place when we play again.
I am a little down bc Dji is injured and I know with all my being he could help us. Things haven’t gone the way I think any of us have wanted but it’s where we are. The players just have to keep working and hopefully get back on track this last half. 🕷🏀

Awesome take but think you’re giving VCU way too much credit. I’ll be betting spiders next game if we are healthy and have any type of momentum.

 

[spider fan]

Am certain Mooney and Rhoades are friends. That was also evident before the game when they exchanged pleasantries. That is well and good and the way it should be. But would like to see some sign that the awful record Mooney has against VCU bothers him enough to want it to change. Know that he wants to beat VCU. All time VCU owns the series 56-31 which means they have won 64% of the games against us. Against Mooney they have won 75%. It is more than an embarrassment the way VCU dominates us. Being around before RPI had a Division 1 team that dynamic was much better. We were the only Division 1 football and basketball program in Richmond. We do not have to be so bad against VCU. They own us, I admit it, and have gotten to the point where I expect them to win every time we play against them. However I am not being paid over a million dollars as Richmond's coach. If Tarrant could manage to be a game or two below .500 against them, what logical reason exists why we can't do that now? This is "blowin in the wind" I am certain but our performances/record against them are without excuse...................

 

[SpiderDad75]

Couldn't have said it any better, 97.

I agree with 97 with the exception for talent…no they might not have an Eric Maynor but they have talent. Williams was excellent and is talented. Not sure how he’s been playing but that kid along with Ace were their top two guys. Ward #20 wasn’t terrible either. I def hate losing to them but I’m not as invested in hating “our rival” (YET😀 but I’m sure I’ll get there 😂 ) as some of you guys. I hate dookies with a passion and I’m confident my hatred for VCU will reach that level. I say that bc I think sometimes we can’t stand our rival and so we always think we are better than who that rival is. 97 made great points but I think they do have talent albeit young talent.

 

[8legs1dream]

I thought crowd wise it was pretty good. Best of the season I think. I thought the 2 quick fouls on Nate kinda took some energy from us. I enjoyed the atmosphere but would like to see it like that for every game. Students were great I thought. As far as the staff I think Coach Maurice and Hovde always bring energy. Coach Mooney gets criticized a lot bc he’s not super energetic. I think we have a decent mix of that and that doesn’t mean he doesn’t know what he’s doing. I don’t like when I hear players are soft, fans are soft, they have no heart , they’ve turned on coach etc…

These guys work extremely hard and just like any other person they have off days. I have them all the time and I get we all let our frustrations get the better of us sometimes(I sure have)…including our players. I would guess they are disappointed at some of our losses but by no means do I think they’ve given up. This was my first real exp with the VCU rivalry since we’ve been a part of the family. It felt good, a win would’ve felt better. I thought the refs played a role but we ultimately didn’t take care of ball well in 1st. Didn’t hit shots we needed and Vince Williams -22 pts 10 rbs & 8 Ast played his butt off. They are not a bad team as some have suggested and are really good defensively, which had a lot to do with Tyler not playing well & made him play to his weaknesses I think and a lot of our guys frankly. We weren’t able to beat them off the dribble any or very rarely. I do plan on going to VCUs place when we play again.
I am a little down bc Dji is injured and I know with all my being he could help us. Things haven’t gone the way I think any of us have wanted but it’s where we are. The players just have to keep working and hopefully get back on track this last half. 🕷🏀

Really appreciate the thoughtful response you typed up and I hope that you are there for the next game and especially that Dji is out there battling for us too! I agree someone with his skillset would have made things much for difficult for them.

 

[Long Island Spiders]

Really appreciate the thoughtful response you typed up and I hope that you are there for the next game and especially that Dji is out there battling for us too! I agree someone with his skillset would have made things much for difficult for them.

You’re my new favorite poster on here. Keep it up.

 

[whampas]

If talent is absolutely equal, we lose 3 out of 4 because they are better coached and their systems give better results than ours. Our style played directly into their strengths and we did not appear to make any adjustments to offset it.

 

[CarolinaSpider]

When should Crabtree be back? Also like many others, I have talked to my 76er buddies trying to figure out who put the the awful form back in Cayo's foul shooting. Two years ago when he was in the 60-70% range, he was smooth and no hesitation. Now he is herky jerky and has an awful case of the yips.

 

[Section9.RowD]

Really appreciate the thoughtful response you typed up and I hope that you are there for the next game and especially that Dji is out there battling for us too! I agree someone with his skillset would have made things much for difficult for them.

In '20, I had an ex tix for the game at VCU and took a work friend who was in town for the week -- didn't bother me too much that he was 6'3 and ~275 or so ..

 

[Long Island Spiders]

You’re my new favorite poster on here. Keep it up.

Spiderman a close second!

 

[SpiderGuy]

If talent is absolutely equal, we lose 3 out of 4 because they are better coached and their systems give better results than ours. Our style played directly into their strengths and we did not appear to make any adjustments to offset it.

Great post. This pretty much described a lot of our games. Could copy and paste this to too many threads of UR versus…fill in the school. We’re past the time of this repeating. To real fans, it should be a frustrating pattern to be in, and only see one way out.

 

[Eight Legger]

We were 4 of 22 from three Saturday. FOUR OF TWENTY-TWO. Awful on its own, but also awful because that's 18 times we missed a shot that we could have taken from closer in, where in theory we should have had an advantage. AND it's probably 18 times we didn't give ourselves much of a chance to get an offensive rebound.

So let's look at how we fared in three-point shooting in our other losses:
• vs. Davidson: 12 of 32
• vs. SLU: 6 of 20
• vs SJU: 6 of 33
• vs. MSU: 8 of 30
• vs. Maryland 8 of 22
• vs Drake: 7 of 20
• vs. Utah State: 14 of 33

In total, a little under 31% in those games, buoyed by one very good effort and two OK efforts.

Of course we could say "Well obviously our shooting % in losses will look worse – that's why we lost." But I think it's notable that all of our losses came against teams that basically were even with us or better than us (with the exception of St. Joe's), while all of our wins have come against teams we were supposed to beat.

So the takeaway for me is that we can shoot threes against bad teams (hooray...) but as a strategy for beating good teams, or even teams equal to us, it doesn't work. And in fact it probably is costing us some of these games. Six of 33? Eight of 30? Four of 22? That's just lazy basketball where we have no plan to go inside and just settle for bad threes OR it is indicative of the fact that we just don't have good shooters, or else we'd be able to outshoot teams that are equal to or better than us.

 

[97spiderfan]

I agree with 97 with the exception for talent…no they might not have an Eric Maynor but they have talent. Williams was excellent and is talented. Not sure how he’s been playing but that kid along with Ace were their top two guys. Ward #20 wasn’t terrible either. I def hate losing to them but I’m not as invested in hating “our rival” (YET😀 but I’m sure I’ll get there 😂 ) as some of you guys. I hate dookies with a passion and I’m confident my hatred for VCU will reach that level. I say that bc I think sometimes we can’t stand our rival and so we always think we are better than who that rival is. 97 made great points but I think they do have talent albeit young talent.

Dad, I wasn't saying VCU lacks talent, they clearly have some good players. But over the past decade or so, they have had upper echelon talent. Eric Maynor, Trevaon Graham, Bones Hyland, Briante Weber, Larry Sanders, Troy Daniels all played or are playing in the NBA, several of them were first round draft picks.

VCU always has better talent than us, but not this year. Vince Williams is a nice player, don't get me wrong, be he isn't an NBA prospect. Ace is a nice player as well, he is young and just coming back off a pretty devastating injury. Meanwhile, we have a 2000 point scorer, the NCAA all time leading steal leader and our best NBA prospect in over decade on this team. And yet, we come up short, again.

So no, I fully admit we are not better than VCU. They have been to the NCAA pretty much every year the past decade or so and we haven't been once. Mooney has a 7-21 record against them. It is a rivalry in name only at this point, they own us. And as Ace said, They run Richmond. Yep, they do and they back it up over and over.

I honestly used to hate VCU with the passion of thousand burning suns, but now, I just kind of respect them for what they have done and what they continue to do. I feel pity and apathy that we don't have near the same vision and commitment to excellence that they do. And frankly pissed off, when I hear our coach talk about all of the positives that came from this game during his postgame. It would be nice to hear him just a little upset by the fact that once again, our rival owned us again, on our home court with his suppossed best team ever, playing against a very young VCU squad.

 

[8legs1dream]

We were 4 of 22 from three Saturday. FOUR OF TWENTY-TWO. Awful on its own, but also awful because that's 18 times we missed a shot that we could have taken from closer in, where in theory we should have had an advantage. AND it's probably 18 times we didn't give ourselves much of a chance to get an offensive rebound.

So let's look at how we fared in three-point shooting in our other losses:
• vs. Davidson: 12 of 32
• vs. SLU: 6 of 20
• vs SJU: 6 of 33
• vs. MSU: 8 of 30
• vs. Maryland 8 of 22
• vs Drake: 7 of 20
• vs. Utah State: 14 of 33

In total, a little under 31% in those games, buoyed by one very good effort and two OK efforts.

Of course we could say "Well obviously our shooting % in losses will look worse – that's why we lost." But I think it's notable that all of our losses all of our losses came against teams that basically were even with us or better than us (with the exception of St. Joe's), while all of our wins have come against teams we were supposed to beat.

So the takeaway for me is that we can shoot threes against bad teams (hooray...) but as a strategy for beating good teams, or even teams equal to us, it doesn't work. And in fact it probably is costing us some of these games. Six of 33? Eight of 30? Four of 22? That's just lazy basketball where we have no plan to go inside and just settle for bad threes OR it is indicative of the fact that we just don't have good shooters, or else we'd be able to outshoot teams that are equal to or better than us.

I'm with you all the way here. If the threes aren't falling either because we are in a funk or the other team is taking that away from us we need to find something else that has better odds of putting points on the board because otherwise hopelessly bombing from three is a recipe for an L.

 

[urmite]

Kenpom's All A-10 team based on performance in Conference games are:
1 Williams

2 Luka (Davidson)
3 Oduro
4 Golden
5 Lee (Davidson)

and I believe 6th Loyer (Davidson)

I am pretty sure he only looks at offense, but I think this group has been the same for about 2 weeks...

 

[spider fan]

Some passion from our coach about how awful it is to lose to VCU would be meaningful and I would go with the method of having the team run wind sprints after a loss to them so they would get the message it is not okay to lose to VCU over and over and over - I could go on, but won't!

 

[SpiderDad75]

Dad, I wasn't saying VCU lacks talent, they clearly have some good players. But over the past decade or so, they have had upper echelon talent. Eric Maynor, Trevaon Graham, Bones Hyland, Briante Weber, Larry Sanders, Troy Daniels all played or are playing in the NBA, several of them were first round draft picks.

VCU always has better talent than us, but not this year. Vince Williams is a nice player, don't get me wrong, be he isn't an NBA prospect. Ace is a nice player as well, he is young and just coming back off a pretty devastating injury. Meanwhile, we have a 2000 point scorer, the NCAA all time leading steal leader and our best NBA prospect in over decade on this team. And yet, we come up short, again.

So no, I fully admit we are not better than VCU. They have been to the NCAA pretty much every year the past decade or so and we haven't been once. Mooney has a 7-21 record against them. It is a rivalry in name only at this point, they own us. And as Ace said, They run Richmond. Yep, they do and they back it up over and over.

I honestly used to hate VCU with the passion of thousand burning suns, but now, I just kind of respect them for what they have done and what they continue to do. I feel pity and apathy that we don't have near the same vision and commitment to excellence that they do. And frankly pissed off, when I hear our coach talk about all of the positives that came from this game during his postgame. It would be nice to hear him just a little upset by the fact that once again, our rival owned us again, on our home court with his suppossed best team ever, playing against a very young VCU squad.

My bad 97…I gotcha ✊🏼 All great points and can’t really dispute them. Curious…has coach ever seemed upset at a presser during his time here? Just asking bc if he hasn’t maybe it’s not in his demeanor. But I def get what you’re saying.

 

[spider fan]

Mooney had a lot more moxie earlier in his career at Richmond but soon learned getting technicals didn't sit well with the hierarchy. Problem was his technicals were usually because of curse words and were ineffective. He cleaned up his language which is well and good but with that he tamped down any passion - not so good. As far as during pressers he wants to be seen as even tempered.

 

[GKiller]

Mooney thought our D was so good after the game. It made little sense to me. They burned us on the double or hedging from p&r all game. No resistance. Just easy dunks. It’s been a problem all year.

and vcu averages 63.5. They scored 64. That’s who they r we didn’t defend better.

 

[GKiller]

Awesome take but think you’re giving VCU way too much credit. I’ll be betting spiders next game if we are healthy and have any type of momentum.

do you have any money left?

 

[urmite]

Mooney thought our D was so good after the game. It made little sense to me. They burned us on the double or hedging from p&r all game. No resistance. Just easy dunks. It’s been a problem all year.

and vcu averages 63.5. They scored 64. That’s who they r we didn’t defend better.

I believe using the line and over/under, the score was predicted 67-64 us...

 

[97spiderfan]

My bad 97…I gotcha ✊🏼 All great points and can’t really dispute them. Curious…has coach ever seemed upset at a presser during his time here? Just asking bc if he hasn’t maybe it’s not in his demeanor. But I def get what you’re saying.

He used to get upset but that time has long passed. I think honestly he is just been in the same position for too long. 17 years is a long time. The passion is gone.

 

[spider fan]

Well the Rams got their 64.....................

 

[spider fan]

He used to get upset but that time has long passed. I think honestly he is just been in the same position for too long. 17 years is a long time. The passion is gone.

Plus the remuneration is so good and comfortable who needs passion?

 

[97spiderfan]

do you have any money left?

In Virginia, you can't bet on Virginia teams. But man, I would have made hey at Richmond -3. VCU will likely be high single digit favorites at their place.

 

[97spiderfan]

Plus the remuneration is so good and comfortable who needs passion?

The check cashes regardless.

 

[Long Island Spiders]

We were 4 of 22 from three Saturday. FOUR OF TWENTY-TWO. Awful on its own, but also awful because that's 18 times we missed a shot that we could have taken from closer in, where in theory we should have had an advantage. AND it's probably 18 times we didn't give ourselves much of a chance to get an offensive rebound.

So let's look at how we fared in three-point shooting in our other losses:
• vs. Davidson: 12 of 32
• vs. SLU: 6 of 20
• vs SJU: 6 of 33
• vs. MSU: 8 of 30
• vs. Maryland 8 of 22
• vs Drake: 7 of 20
• vs. Utah State: 14 of 33

In total, a little under 31% in those games, buoyed by one very good effort and two OK efforts.

Of course we could say "Well obviously our shooting % in losses will look worse – that's why we lost." But I think it's notable that all of our losses came against teams that basically were even with us or better than us (with the exception of St. Joe's), while all of our wins have come against teams we were supposed to beat.

So the takeaway for me is that we can shoot threes against bad teams (hooray...) but as a strategy for beating good teams, or even teams equal to us, it doesn't work. And in fact it probably is costing us some of these games. Six of 33? Eight of 30? Four of 22? That's just lazy basketball where we have no plan to go inside and just settle for bad threes OR it is indicative of the fact that we just don't have good shooters, or else we'd be able to outshoot teams that are equal to or better than us.

This is a great post. Thank you.

 

[SpiderGuy]

I believe using the line and over/under, the score was predicted 67-64 us...

Moon’s been talking great defense since the Drake Debacle. That’s worked out quite well???? At what point does reality kick in? And I hate posting this stuff, but we seem to be in regression mode in what should have been an NCAA year.

 

[ur2K]

it is indicative of the fact that we just don't have good shooters, or else we'd be able to outshoot teams that are equal to or better than us

It is this one. We don't have good shooters. Which is a problem when you run a system where one of the keys is having good shooters.

 

[64Spider]

We were 4 of 22 from three Saturday. FOUR OF TWENTY-TWO. Awful on its own, but also awful because that's 18 times we missed a shot that we could have taken from closer in, where in theory we should have had an advantage. AND it's probably 18 times we didn't give ourselves much of a chance to get an offensive rebound.

So let's look at how we fared in three-point shooting in our other losses:
• vs. Davidson: 12 of 32
• vs. SLU: 6 of 20
• vs SJU: 6 of 33
• vs. MSU: 8 of 30
• vs. Maryland 8 of 22
• vs Drake: 7 of 20
• vs. Utah State: 14 of 33

In total, a little under 31% in those games, buoyed by one very good effort and two OK efforts.

Of course we could say "Well obviously our shooting % in losses will look worse – that's why we lost." But I think it's notable that all of our losses came against teams that basically were even with us or better than us (with the exception of St. Joe's), while all of our wins have come against teams we were supposed to beat.

So the takeaway for me is that we can shoot threes against bad teams (hooray...) but as a strategy for beating good teams, or even teams equal to us, it doesn't work. And in fact it probably is costing us some of these games. Six of 33? Eight of 30? Four of 22? That's just lazy basketball where we have no plan to go inside and just settle for bad threes OR it is indicative of the fact that we just don't have good shooters, or else we'd be able to outshoot teams that are equal to or better than us.

Those misses I count as turnovers. That an enormous number of opportunities for the enemy to score while we get zeros.

 

[MrTbone]

To be fair…tons of college coaches do this, as well as NBA coaches.

I believe you, I just don’t see it as I literally can’t look anywhere else because it’s maddening to me.

 

[Vcewe]

Mooney had a lot more moxie earlier in his career at Richmond but soon learned getting technicals didn't sit well with the hierarchy. Problem was his technicals were usually because of curse words and were ineffective. He cleaned up his language which is well and good but with that he tamped down any passion - not so good. As far as during pressers he wants to be seen as even tempered.

Spider fan I have mentioned this several times to people, but you are the first on this board that has mentioned this. I do not see Mooney as being the same coach since his double technical meltdown in the A10 tournament. He is intense and needs to coach that way to be effective, not the nervous coach making the same hackneyed comments game after game.