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Vanderbilt preview

plydogg

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Most of you are probably asleep right now but when everybody is reading this it will be GAMEDAY! After spending so much time scouting other games I wanted to do my best to give a preview of this big game against Vandy. A lot of people here expecting a win and I think the worst thing we can do is expect to win. Even the good teams should never expect a win against a P5 opponent.

Here we go!

Vanderbilt Commodores (2-0)

Who have they Played?

Vandy has played 2 games so far this season, both at home. They won by 18 against 1-1 SE Missouri State (their 1 win came against Fort Wayne who is 0-3 against D1 teams this year, and they only won by one) and then won by 5 against Texas A&M Corpus Christi who is 0-2 with their other loss coming by 33 points at home to Louisiana Tech.

Key Players?

Vandy is led by 6'6" SO Aaron Nesmith who is averaging 23 points and 5.5 rebounds. He is shooting 59.3% from the field and 55.5% from 3. He has attempted 18 shots from behind the arc and only 9 from inside it, so look for kickouts to him and make sure he doesn't stay hot from 3.

The other two players averaging double-digits are 6'2" JR Saben Lee (18PPG & 6.0APG) and 6'8" SR Clevon Brown (13.5PPG, 8RPG). Lee is shooting just 48.3% from the field and 20% from 3. Brown is shooting 73.3% from the field and is a highly efficient scorer. We need to double him when he gets the ball down low. He has 0 assists and 2 turnovers this year so it looks like once he gets the ball he is either shooting or passing to a man who is not open. In Brown's entire Vandy career he has played 100 games and has 27 assists.

Next man up is Scottie Pippen Jr. who is averaging 8.5 PPG (while shooting 33.3% from the field) with 4 assists per game.

Key Stats?

Vanderbilt has shot 62.5% from the free throw line this season. That is 264th in the country. They only attempt 16 free throws per game which is 248th in the country. How about we get them to the line if they go on a run and make them beat us there?

They are shooting 39.3% from 3 which is 68th in the country and attempting 28 3's per game while attempting 28.5 2's per game. I think a key to this game will be making Vandy attempt 2's while trying to limit the touches deep in the post by Brown. Their overall field goal percentage is 49.6% which is 60th in the country. So they will most likely be able to score pretty easily. Limiting that scoring to inside the arc + limiting offensive boards (more on that to come) will be key here. Vandy may be shooting it well but they aren't exactly lighting up the scoreboard with 77 points per game (137th in the country) against poor opponents.

Vandy is averaging 13.5 assists to 12 turnovers while averaging 10.5 steals per game. Richmond is averaging 22 assists, 8 turnovers, and 8 steals. Vandy has 3 players averaging 2+ steals per game while 5 of Richmond's 8 came from Jacob Gilyard. It looks like Vandy has active hands and forces turnovers, but the caveat is that it has come against very bad opponents.

With only a one game sample size it is hard to give much of a preview for the Spiders. Especially since the game went to OT it inflates the stats. With 22 assists the Spiders rank 6th in the country in assists per game, but their AST/TO ratio sits at 2.75 which is 2nd in the nation. Richmond is 7th in the nation in points per game, 36th in field goal percentage, and 15th in 3 point percentage. Just remember that these all look nice and dandy but came in a game where there was virtually no defense being played. Don't expect another 100-98 game here. Richmond is 70.8% from the line this year (143rd) which is not wonderful but miles better than what the mentioned for Vandy.


Biggest Matchup?

Rebounding. Plain and simple. I think we all had a bad taste in our mouths after St. Francis went +11 on the boards and pulled in 15 offensive rebounds against us. It is worth noting that they also had 15 offensive boards against VCU and 12 against Morgan State (who they went +18 against in rebounding differential). St. Francis is currently 35th in the nation in offensive rebounds per game.

Why is this important? (Trust me you'll want to read this next one)

Vandy has lost the rebounding battle in both games this year. They were -3 in both games this year. Vandy also has a total of 19 offensive rebounds this year (9.5 per game) while allowing 23 (11.5 per game). To put this into perspective, in SE Missouri State's game against Fort Wayne (a win) they were -7 in rebound differential, allowed 15 offensive boards, and only had 8 offensive boards of their own. Texas A&M Corpus-Christi lost their home opener against Louisiana Tech by 33 points and only lost the rebounding differential by, you guessed it, -3. Louisiana Tech had 12 offensive boards. Both of Vandy's opponents have allowed fewer offensive boards to Vanderbilt than to SE Missouri State & Louisiana Tech. Well surely you must think that is because Vandy is a superior team who had a much higher shooting percentage. Vandy and LA Tech both shot exactly 50% against Corpus Christi so that rules that out. Vandy shot 9% better from the field against SE MIssouri State than Fort Wayne did, but Fort Wayne only attempted 3 more shots (and had 5 more offensive boards).

Believe it or not Richmond had 33 rebounds in their only game this season (compared to 31 per game for Vandy, but the OT needs to be taken into account) but the Spiders only had 7 offensive rebounds. Can Richmond keep Vandy off the offensive glass and in the 8-10 offensive rebound range, or will they rack up 15+. That should end up the deciding factor as the Spiders cannot afford to have this Vanderbilt team picking up offensive boards and then kicking out to 3 for easy buckets.

Now I know these are small sample sizes as Richmond has played one game and Vanderbilt has only played 2, but I had to go as in-depth as possible with the stats I had.
 
Thanks for your research/thoughts on the game.

Looks like Vegas has us as 5.5 point favorites. Assuming Grant is a go I think this is a game we can and should win.
 
Obviously, if we have Grant, this should be an easy win, espicially given Ply's analysis that Vandy appears to be a worse at rebounding than we are. Even if we don't have Grant, Mooney has been building towards this year and we have to have a next man up approach and should still win this game. This is why you build a strong bench. It is a shame that Mooney recruited a back-up for Grant instead of another big man who could serve not just as a back-up but his heir apparent.

Alas that ship has sailed. Tough to predict this one given Grant status. I think we win by 10-12 with Grant and without him I think this game is a complete toss up.
 
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Vandy is not very good and as a result you can probably count on two things. I would expect them to take a high amount of three's against our defense and then crash the boards at all cost. They probably see this as the only way they can score and would expect the game plan to be just throw it near the rim and go get it. We don't need to win the rebounding battle (it would be nice though), but just keep them under 10 offensive rebounds and we should be fine.

UR 88 Vandy 80 (we still can't stop anyone, so get used to these high scores).
 
I think it's hilarious when anyone predicts or says we "should" win by 10+ points. Or even 8. Against anyone, anywhere.

Our defense is atrocious and they have a guy who bombs threes efficiently. Nesmith is going to score about 8 three pointers.

Without Grant, we are in trouble, although I will hold out hope that we could improve defensively in that regard, with Cayo and Burton playing together.

Vandy, 123-121 in regulation.
 
We better win tonight. Richmond has outplayed Vanderbelt. More talent, but can’t get a rebound. That on top of the POS referee crew.
 
Where do we get these refs from? Vandy player with one hand on the ball falling away after reaching un while our guy has two hands on the ball and you call a jump ball?
 
Gave up 51 points in 2nd half. Let them shoot 52%. Got out rebounded badly in 2nd half. Blew a chance to take 2 for 1 at the end

If we lose, it’s the same reason we have lost 20+ two years in a row.
 
Notice that Vandy correctly got the 2 for one opportunity and will again get the chance for the last shot.
 
Well a win is a win and there is something to say for fact we have figured out a way to win twice. But we aren’t going to be able to win consistently or against decent teams unless and until we figure out a way to be something better than awful on defense.

I just don’t understand how we can be be this bad with this group defensively. Golden and nick are challenged with lateral quickness but both are pretty heady players and the rest of the starters are plenty athletic enough to be good defensive players plus Goose, Sal and Burton have plenty enough athleticism. We should be able to be at least average easily but we aren’t close to average on defense. And it’s not just one thing, we don’t know how to defend the ball, close out, defend pick and roll, our rotations are horrendous and when our guys are in position to help we fail because all the help defender does is swat at the driver while he goes by. It’s 5th grade defense to learn you have to help with tour feet and not with a swipe as people go by. Just awful fundamentally on defense. Yet on offense we are a solid team and we really seem to Understand offense and lots of subtleties that make it work. How can there be this much discrepancy?
 
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A well deserved win tonight. Aggressive defense in the 1st half gave UR the lead despite a poor display of shooting. Vandy just made some deep 3s on the 2nd half. Spider offense came alive late to get the lead after down 66-59. Then gave up a 78-71 lead late.

UR 10-9 2nd chance point ad to go along with 20-23 from the foul line. Numbers like that more often and Spiders will be have good chance to win those games. Vandy might be an inexperienced team but Mooney's team performed well enough when it counted (late) to get the job done. Good W!
 
Well a win is a win and there is something to say for fact we have figured out a way to win twice. But we aren’t going to be able to win consistently or against decent teams unless and until we figure out a way to be something better than awful on defense.

I just don’t understand how we can be be this bad with this group defensively. Golden and nick are challenged with lateral quickness but both are pretty heady players and the rest of the starters are plenty athletic enough to be good defensive players plus Goose, Sal and Burton have plenty enough athleticism. We should be able to be at least average easily but we aren’t close to average on defense. And it’s not just one thing, we don’t know how to defend the ball, close out, defend pick and roll, our rotations are horrendous and when our guys are in position to help we fail because all the help defender does is swat at the driver while he goes by. It’s 5th grade defense to learn you have to help with tour feet and not with a swipe as people go by. Just awful fundamentally on defense. Yet on offense we are a solid team and we really seem to Understand offense and lots of subtleties that make it work. How can there be this much discrepancy?
The defense of these first two games makes me long for the return of the matchup zone.
 
I mean guys in the 1st half Vandy was 12-30 from the field including 4-14 with 3PTAs. And Mooney's team only gave them 1 FTA. So now we can't say UR played some decent defense?

I mean if you want to say Vandy sucks at shooting they sure didn't look that way in the 2nd half going 18-30 including 10-18 with 3PTAs. The stat of giving up only 9 2nd chance points for the game tells you UR did something right on defense.
 
Then gave up a 78-71 lead late.

I think this was when Mooney called a timeout & I was like No! He does this regularly when we have momentum. I understand he’s trying to sub for D & set up D but our D isn’t getting stops anyway. Stack sets up designed play and nails a 3 & they get all their rhythm back at end. That TO cost us regulation win imo. Gotta let it play out sometimes esp when we’re on a run and have decent lead. Let Stack take the TO if he wants to.

But another gutty win. A win we should get against a weak very young team playing 1st road game.

Hopefully we can work out our D issues against 2 weakest ooc opponents upcoming.

2-0 keep pushing Spiders.
 
That was a fun game to attend in person, for the most part. Our defense still sucks, but a win is a win and I’ll take it. I would like to know what exactly Golden was doing on defense, though. If you were paying someone to throw the game defensively, I don’t think you could get less effort at critical moments.
 
That was a fun game to attend in person, for the most part. Our defense still sucks, but a win is a win and I’ll take it. I would like to know what exactly Golden was doing on defense, though. If you were paying someone to throw the game defensively, I don’t think you could get less effort at critical moments.

How was the crowd tonight? Looked ok on feed but that is hard to tell. Hopefully the 2-0 start & overall high scoring excitement of games brings in a few more fans.
 
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