Sorry just saw this…not sure…quite a few guys are home till Sunday evening. Dji has been home about a week.
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thanks. that's a bummer. a guy looking to transfer in can't bond with team members when they aren't on campus.
Yeah I’m not 100% about everyone being home but I agree we need guys there but they also need a break with summer school starting next week.
agreed. I just wish we could have scheduled the visit for when they were still here ... or when they were back.
we have to take the visit for whenever works for the player, but I do think it puts us at a disadvantage. the family feel of our team is a big selling point.
Well, Mooney should have been more proactive then. He clearly knows when his players are not on campus. And I imagine this happens at every school when players go home, shouldn't put us at any super competitive disadvantage. He just needs to get it done and get quality player to commit, sick of seeing all of our targets go somewhere else.
LOL. Another day, another ridiculous cheap shot at our coach. So, if Langford wants to visit us after visiting Temple (and probably make a decision soon), Mooney is supposed to say, sorry DeMarr, but a few of our guys won't be here....we will have to wait till they get back??? Seriously?? I'm sure that would go over real well with you and others on here, and Mooney would get a lot of praise for that, right?
You guys are so predictable.
Our message board: "Mooney sucks because we never get any interest from P6 guys."
Langford, who has received interest from several P6 schools, visits this weekend: "Mooney sucks because he is visiting when some of our guys are not here".
It is beyond laughable. And, apologies to Quinn, Roche, Bigs, and King for having a member of our board continue to ask why Mooney can't get any quality transfers in here. Anyone without such a hate filled agenda knows you guys are all solid, talented players.
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Will all due respect, Roche has yet to prove himself to be a quality transfer. Hoping he does this year, but fear some are putting way too much faith in a guy who didn’t live up to the hype shooting wise and didn’t play great defense despite some trying to talk themselves into disbelieving their eyes.
looks to me like Temple still has 4 openings. they lost a ton to transfers this spring.
18 minutes a game last year, and 38.5% from 3 with 52 makes. We can disagree, but I would call coming in here, being a key part of the rotation, and shooting 38.5% from 3 with 52 makes a quality transfer. I would have liked to see him get more minutes last year, but hopefully he gets a lot more time this year. And, he is more than acceptable defensively.
Here's the thing, if we (keyboard warriors) question the results then all the Mooney sycophants immediately say that we are bashing the players and hurting the program. The factual, non-emotional truth is that we finished 12th in a one bid league last year with a bunch of quality transfers and a future pro player. The year before that we raised banners and the Mooney doubters were chastised and shamed but we still finished 6th in the conference with a ridiculously veteran team (Great tournament run no doubt, credit all around) but we are not competing for the top 3 spots in the league and we are not trending in that direction either. You are seeing pre-season predictions for us to finish mid to bottom of the league...and that's with Burton returning. I don't see how folks can be excited about maybe another potential top 5-6 finish in a few years when we get old again. Say whatever you want about Coach Mooney but his teams have never finished higher than 3rd in the regular season EVER in 18 seasons at UR. So despite an occasional conference tournament run that's the finish that you are paying over a million dollars a year for but our fanbase leads the league in hope.
Except for the time they finished 2nd.
8legs1dream
Graduate Assistant
starting with the most recently completed season here are the regular season finishes:
11th
6th
8th
2nd (24-7 shout out!!!)
11th
8th
4th
9th
5th
7th
10th
10th
3rd
3rd
7th
6th
12th
12th
and that rounds out the Mooney Era.
11th
6th
8th
2nd (24-7 shout out!!!)
11th
8th
4th
9th
5th
7th
10th
10th
3rd
3rd
7th
6th
12th
12th
and that rounds out the Mooney Era.
Honest question was that a/the Covid year? Not trying to be cute with my response but if that's what we are hanging our hat on after an 18 year sample size then I rest my case.
The average finish is 7.4th. (Probably could have been 7.3rd, but we missed a shot or two at the buzzer, so...)
The regular season was not impacted by covid that year. No one is hanging their hat on anything. You made an erroneous statement, and someone corrected it.
8legs1dream
Graduate Assistant
You guys make it sound like I erroneously stated Mooney has won 45% of his games instead of 55%. I stand corrected and that team finished that regular season so they earned that second place finish. I still think this is the exact kind of specific fact arguing that pro Mooney folks spin to take the eye off the 18 year body of work. I’ll gladly admit my error though since it certainly makes Mooney’s almost two decade tenure sound more impressive by adding that he has never won the league but finished second ONCE.
Lol, I was responding to how it was a perceived disadvantage because our players were not on campus, which is kind of ludicrous.
As for quality portal transfers, we finished 12th last year in a one bid league with his supposed great transfer class. I think all of those guys have talent but as usual coach can put them in a position for the team to succeed. And again, next year right now is shaping up to be just as bad. Maybe we don't finish 12th cause that is really hard to do in a one big watered down A-10 but I don't see anyway we are in contention with anything postseason related right now.
Maybe Mooney surprises us and land a couple really high quality transfers late but again I'm gonna reserve judgment because we all saw how well he did last year trying to integrate supposed high quality transfers.
Corrected it for you. 95% of people on here see his body of work for what it is, completely mediocre, at best.
of course it hurts our chances with a prospect if he visits when players aren't on campus. time spent with the team is a huge factor. to think it's not is ludicrous.
No one said it wasn't good to have our guys there when recruits visit. But, one, you can't delay a guy's visit if he plans to come a certain time, and two, do we even know for sure everyone was away? And 3, Langford visited Saturday and Sunday. SDad said some guys were away for a week and returning Sunday. I would think some players, after being away a week, might have checked in with our staff, and decided to return Saturday to show Langford around.
97 literally said that a perceived disadvantage because our players were not on campus is ludicrous.
no, we don't know. SDad said guys were away. your theory that guys came back to hang with the recruit is based on what?
Just a theory based on that is what I would do if I were a player. I always wanted to win, so if I saw a player that could make us better was visiting, I absolutely would offer to come back 1 day early from a week long break if the coaches felt it would help the team.
As for 97's comment, it is hard to see where he is going with any of this because he is always in such a hurry to make everything that happens in this world Mooney's fault.
8legs1dream
Graduate Assistant
we owned the tiebreaker over LaSalle so we finished 11th, show some respect! 😂
But my point is every team is bringing in kids at this point is probably doing so without the team on campus. So, it should not be an advantage or disadvantage either way. And if Mooney thinks it is such a swaying factor than he should be scheduling these visits around when the team is present.
I see your point here, and agree it certainly should not be used as an excuse if you don't land a guy. But, I would think it would be beneficial to have your guys welcome recruits in here and show them around and stuff. Probably always some things recruits would want to ask players about that they wouldn't a coach. But, it's up to the coach to sell guys on coming here.
I actually don't think Langford is a great fit. Not because he's not a good player, but because I don't trust Mooney to utilize his strengths effectively, which seem to be slashing and defense. I don't really look forward to him and Bigelow jacking up a bunch of threes next year, and that's what I fear would be the case.
If, instead, we played an aggressive, fast, pressure defense and transition, attacking offense, I think he'd be a great fit with Bigelow. But that's not our style, and won't be next year either. So I'm not sure the solution really, but I'm not convinced this will be the right fit between player and coach anyway.
If, instead, we played an aggressive, fast, pressure defense and transition, attacking offense, I think he'd be a great fit with Bigelow. But that's not our style, and won't be next year either. So I'm not sure the solution really, but I'm not convinced this will be the right fit between player and coach anyway.
I expected you guys to have gathered a couple of nice transfers by now. Somebody get a help wanted billboard up quick.
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maybe "disadvantage" was a poor choice of wording. I didn't mean to compare to another school. I don't know whether their kids are on campus or not. I mean for us to have our best shot, I believe a prospect getting to know his potential teammates and getting a feel for the family atmosphere here is a big factor. not every team has that feel. it's a selling point ... that we don't benefit from if guys aren't here.
talking to coaches and looking at our pretty locker room and practice facility is all good, but hanging out with the guys is more important to most kids. as is playing pickup with them to see how you fit.
We've shown we can be successful when playing this way the last few years in spurts and seemed to have had a deep enough bench to play it more often, but then we go back to the aimless weave, dribble around offense and the flying dutchman defense.
It's more that Coach isn't comfortable giving up easy baskets if they break pressure. You have to be able to live with some of that if you are really going to commit to pressure defense. In the few times when we REALLY deployed it full throttle (the ones I can think of were Duquense this year and RI in the tourney), we were down big and had not much else to lose. I just don't think it is in Coach's DNA to commit to it.
I agree that last year in particular we had the depth and parts to do it. For example, I think one of Nelson's strengths was transition offense. Goose was fast and athletic. Bigelow -- 100% his bag. Tyler. Shoot--Aiden Noyes showed that he would thrive there. I just don't expect we will use it in any meaningful way. So therefore, I think we should be looking for guys that will do damage from the perimeter, which is kind of the boat that I think VT is on as well. Ideally, ones that can also create their own shot.
I agree that last year in particular we had the depth and parts to do it. For example, I think one of Nelson's strengths was transition offense. Goose was fast and athletic. Bigelow -- 100% his bag. Tyler. Shoot--Aiden Noyes showed that he would thrive there. I just don't expect we will use it in any meaningful way. So therefore, I think we should be looking for guys that will do damage from the perimeter, which is kind of the boat that I think VT is on as well. Ideally, ones that can also create their own shot.
