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I'm personally not counting on anything. Just making a point that adding people to the equation isn't always the answer.
Are federal workers lazy? Let’s look at the data.
I am sure there will be legit criticisms to this but it is a good nuanced look at the federal workforce.
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Umm, he didn't say workforce, he said overhead. Those are two entirely different concepts. Yes a firm can grow without increasing its overhead. Most firms want to control their SG&A. The Federal Government has no qualms about hiring. Government spending pushes out private investment.
Trump has now hired 20 former Fox News employees to leadership positions. That's a network that admitted in court that its shows are merely entertainment and not designed to be news (although of course they are promoted as factual news programs) and that paid a $787 million settlement for knowingly broadcasting and amplifying lies about the 2020 election. But of course it's the NY Times, Washington Post and Associated Press that we should be worried about, according to Trump's minions.
Insanity and stupidity on repeat.
Insanity and stupidity on repeat.
Starbucks has competition. Its share of the retail market rises and falls, and its employment numbers adjust accordingly. If Dunkin' is taking away a share of its business, it doesn't need as many employees.See Starbucks laying off 1,100 employees. Thought they were like government jobs, guaranteed for life.
Who competes with the DoD? Who competes with the DOT? Who competes with HUD? Who competes with the Department of the Interior? Who competes with the IRS? Nobody.
All government employees have probationary periods to determine if they can do their jobs. No one is guaranteed a job for life.
How many thousands of Pentagon workers will be fired for no reason, other than Fatso flexing his muscles? Do you think the Pentagon's workload or responsibilities will decrease when thousands of employees are fired? No, they'll have just as much work, just fewer people to do it. And military personnel will have to fill these civilian jobs, taking them off the line.
Same with the IRS. There will be just as many tax returns to process this year as last year, probably more since employment was so high under Biden. Now there will be thousands fewer people to process those returns, to answer questions, to check for mistakes, hidden refunds, or fraud. And your return might get delayed.
Oh, and nice to see we're voting on the same side as North Korea and Russia at the United Nations. What a great peer group.
Are we winning yet?
Haven't heard much from JV Dunce lately on the price of eggs. Gee I wonder why. He promised to bring the cost down immediately, I guess the surcharges restaurants are now charging is just part of the process.
We're heading for the recession that accompanies every GOP presidency.
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The wolves are in the hen house.
Probably every top member of the Trump team, including the President, has been harassed in some way by the IRS. Musk has demanded about 7,000 IRS Agents be cut. It will probably be more than that.
"As part of Musk-driven cuts, about 7,000 IRS employees are expected to lose their jobs, a person familiar with the matter has said."
Probably every top member of the Trump team, including the President, has been harassed in some way by the IRS. Musk has demanded about 7,000 IRS Agents be cut. It will probably be more than that.
"As part of Musk-driven cuts, about 7,000 IRS employees are expected to lose their jobs, a person familiar with the matter has said."
Trump's level of immaturity and 7th grade bullying is unmatched and unprecedented. From the Richmond Times Dispatch yesterday in an article describing Musk's emails to all federal workers demanding a return email showing 5 things they accomplished in the past week:
Trump mocked the affected workers in a meme he posted Sunday on his social media network. The post featured a cartoon character writing a list of accomplishments from the previous week led by, “Cried about Trump,” “Cried about Elon,” “Made it into the office for once,” and “Read some emails.”
This is the President of the US mocking all federal employees. Nothing but class from our President, I hope all the Trumpsters want their kids to grow up just like him, he is such a role model. Please, can anyone defend this juvenile bully behavior?
Trump mocked the affected workers in a meme he posted Sunday on his social media network. The post featured a cartoon character writing a list of accomplishments from the previous week led by, “Cried about Trump,” “Cried about Elon,” “Made it into the office for once,” and “Read some emails.”
This is the President of the US mocking all federal employees. Nothing but class from our President, I hope all the Trumpsters want their kids to grow up just like him, he is such a role model. Please, can anyone defend this juvenile bully behavior?
"Probably every top member of the Trump team, including the President, has been harassed in some way by the IRS."
Pure speculation on the every top member comment. As for Trump, if you think he has been harassed by the IRS, I guess you don't think he would cheat on his taxes. He's cheated on pretty much everything else he has ever done, including his wives. Remember, this is the same convicted felon who took the 5th Amendment over 460 times in the NY civil case. I wonder why? He had previously said no one who wasn't guilty would ever take the 5th. His middle name should be "Cheater", with "Liar" and "Grifter" tied for a close second.
I hope all Trumpsters have a close friend or family member that is a federal worker whi loses his/her job.
Steven Colbert's five suggested replies to Musk's "five things you did last week" e-mail:
1. Your mom.
2. Your mom.
3. Your mom.
4. Your mom
5. Your mom.
Can't spell "felon" without "Elon."
Today in insanity:
* The White House announced it will hand-pick the reporters who get to ask Trump questions (but I thought this administration was all for free speech and no censorship??)
* Trump introduced the idea of a gold card for Russian oligarchs that they could buy for $5 million (but I thought we were closing our borders?)
* Trump's always angry press secretary refused to name the person who is in charge of DOGE, a government agency (so much transparency!).
* The White House announced it will hand-pick the reporters who get to ask Trump questions (but I thought this administration was all for free speech and no censorship??)
* Trump introduced the idea of a gold card for Russian oligarchs that they could buy for $5 million (but I thought we were closing our borders?)
* Trump's always angry press secretary refused to name the person who is in charge of DOGE, a government agency (so much transparency!).
1,400 VA staffers fired today. But don't worry, they were just losers and suckers like our war dead, not essential employees.
Wood, to you every federal employee seems to be indispensable. From my perspective, and I was a bureaucrat for 39 years, could cut employment by 10% without a hiccup, 20% easily with careful planning, even more with crafted strategic planning.
You may be correct, but this is so badly handled it will take yrars to fix the problems caused.
I guess you think you weren't indispensable then. I'm sure you were good at your job. Would you have liked to be given your pink slip by Elon Musk, of all people, with no notice, with no severance, and with no regard to how good or bad of an employee that you were? Elon and/or his twerps, whoever is making the decisions, are just arbitrarily and indiscriminately firing anyone that they decide they want to fire with no regard to job performance, skills, etc. And twenty five to thirty percent of our federal workforce are veterans, once again Trump, through Musk, is giving a big FU to our veterans.
President Musk is now working to award himself a government contract from the inside. Who couldn't have predicted this, except every brainwashed Trumper?
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This is reasonable, but what part of Musk's slash-and-burn approach resembles this at all? There is certainly no strategic planning, seemingly no careful planning and basically no planning at all. Trump has been in office for a month and they've already determined who needs to be fired and then fired a bunch of them without warning, then had to hire a bunch back because -- oops! -- turns out we need the guys who understand how nuclear weapons work and the ones who inspect our food. Sorry about that!
What's the rush?
You don't like what USAID does, fine. Figure out what you want to cut and make your case. Don't just fire people who are working for this country in remote third-world locations and cut them off from humanity to pay their own way home. Just unconscionable BS.
How much of that money FElon "saved" by illegally ending USAID will have to be paid back to farmers who had valid contracts cancelled, if the courts uphold his previously-illegal actions?
Farmers have already filed suit against the USDA.
Farmers have already filed suit against the USDA.
Taking the liberty as a common citizen to exercise the privilege extended to Congressional members to "extend and revise my remarks."
The over bloat in government is not sinister. Someone, believe SpiderWiz without checking, posted a graph of Federal employment over the years relative to population. Seemed convincing, but neglected to factor in automation. In the early 80s, the best word processing technology available was IBM memory typewriters that worked about 75% of the time. Without them, you were working with manual typewriters with carbon paper and Wipe Out to generate multiple copies. Computers were not on the scene.
Technology generated tremendous efficiency advancements. Government is saddled with many "half jobs" which would not be tolerated in the private sector where the bottom line rules. In government, the gal/guy who has been there 20/25 years and been proficient, is not going to be fired bc half their job is gone.
All have our opinions, but for better or worse, these jobs traditionally do not go away in government.
My contribution was the WaPo article Are federal workers lazy? Let’s look at the data. Section 204and5 posted the chart.
I will say my experience in the private sector was that technology rarely eliminated jobs. What it did was make existing jobs more productive thereby forestalling the need for new hires in the face of an expanding workload.
I will say my experience in the private sector was that technology rarely eliminated jobs. What it did was make existing jobs more productive thereby forestalling the need for new hires in the face of an expanding workload.
Thanks Wiz. Here's what I said:
Pretty obvious - I thought - that the surge in individual productivity had to do with the introduction of computers. Additionally, the population has grown significantly so the government is serving more people with less employees. I'll try to be more precise in the future.
Pretty obvious - I thought - that the surge in individual productivity had to do with the introduction of computers. Additionally, the population has grown significantly so the government is serving more people with less employees. I'll try to be more precise in the future.
My apologies for misidentifying you, Wiz.
Point is the public sector does not remotely approach efficiency. As a Nation, we could, should, and must do better.
If it takes Musk, so be it. Richest man in the World. To believe he will be influenced by potential or current government contracts defies reason. Doesn't need government money. About as safe an arbitrator as we can get.
Point is the public sector does not remotely approach efficiency. As a Nation, we could, should, and must do better.
If it takes Musk, so be it. Richest man in the World. To believe he will be influenced by potential or current government contracts defies reason. Doesn't need government money. About as safe an arbitrator as we can get.
If you believe that about Musk, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I will sell you. Musk is just like Trump, all they care about is money and themselves.
Yeah, you're smarter than that KE. Musk is the safest arbitrator we can get?? What? Musk gave $280 million to Republicans in '23-'24 and $0 to Democrats. His companies have had government contracts worth $38 BILLION. You honestly believe he is going to look at things in a fair and balanced way? Come on.
Trump and Vance just acted like a couple whiny children in the White House with Zelenskyy. Just a shameful stain on America. Unbelievable, yet completely believable. Can anyone seriously defend this concept of blaming the country that was attacked? Blaming Zelenskyy for the fact that there is no peace? How about blaming Putin – you know, the guy who started this and could end it by withdrawing his troops??
This is pure evil and insanity, and yet part for the course for these miscreants.
www.foxnews.com
This is pure evil and insanity, and yet part for the course for these miscreants.
Trump, Vance spar with Zelenskyy in tense White House meeting | Fox News Video
Ukrainian President Zelenskyy participates in a bilateral White House meeting with President Donald Trump and Vice President Vance, discussing the mineral deal and potential peace talks with Russia.
That's your takeaway? Some of them date back two decades, so that makes him a completely fair judge here? This week he suggested that Verizon shouldn't be awarded a $2B FAA communications contract and that it should go instead to Starlink, his own company. This is literally happening right in front of our eyes and half the country is still justifying it. I give up.
Starlink is a more reliable provider in rural America than Verizon. Just saying from personal experience .
Looks to me as Vance (Instigator in Chief) came prepared to pick a fight. You haven't said Thank You today, and you campaigned for our opponent in PA.
Yep, Little JD had to make his presence known, and act like a big shot in front of the dear leader.
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