Spider Collective NIL

[kneepadmckinney]

Eventually, enough people will be sued, lied to, scammed, or fail to get a return on significant investment that the lawyers will get involved, and NIL will be a tighter contract. As in, players will require a commitment of amount and payment terms and timing, with a counterparty that has the means to pay (or a guaranty from a third party to ensure payment), and schools/collectives will require commitment to the school. 1-year commitment, 2-year commitment, etc. And it will be in writing, notarized, etc.

This is a good thing.

On the other hand, I'm not exactly crying for Primo Spears, who is on his 92nd college in 3.5 years.

 

[spiderman]

I'm going on the assumption that almost all schools do have contracts that specify NIL payments to the athletes and what is expected of them to receive those payments.

but clearly not everyone is holding up their end of the deal, so yeah ... lawyers.

 

[spiderstudent17]

Any updates on how are collective is going? Few questions I had in mind that I would love answered if anyone has inside info. Would be interesting to see if last year’s performance impacted donations/money raised at all.

- Does the collective have more members now than it did before?
- Is the collective receiving more now than it did last year?
- Has the house settlement fund impacted giving to NIL?
- Women’s basketball team is getting revenue from NIL (which is excellent). How much are they getting?

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Also, as an aside. I came across Wake Forest’s NIL collective. They have membership levels that offer perks, gifts, and promotions. They have shop that you can buy merchandise from and essentially be an advertisement for the collective. They also have the ability for someone to donate to a sport specifically. Would be great for us to have an option to donate to either men’s or women’s basketball at the very least. I am once again begging to anyone involved with the spider collective to please consider including membership levels with perks. This will entice more people to join. A shop with merchandise would be cool too.

Roll the Quad (Wake Forest) Collective:
https://linktr.ee/rollthequad

 

[AnnapSpider]

Any updates on how are collective is going? Few questions I had in mind that I would love answered if anyone has inside info. Would be interesting to see if last year’s performance impacted donations/money raised at all.

- Does the collective have more members now than it did before?
- Is the collective receiving more now than it did last year?
- Has the house settlement fund impacted giving to NIL?
- Women’s basketball team is getting revenue from NIL (which is excellent). How much are they getting?

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Also, as an aside. I came across Wake Forest’s NIL collective. They have membership levels that offer perks, gifts, and promotions. They have shop that you can buy merchandise from and essentially be an advertisement for the collective. They also have the ability for someone to donate to a sport specifically. Would be great for us to have an option to donate to either men’s or women’s basketball at the very least. I am once again begging to anyone involved with the spider collective to please consider including membership levels with perks. This will entice more people to join. A shop with merchandise would be cool too.

Roll the Quad (Wake Forest) Collective:
https://linktr.ee/rollthequad

If I had a contact we (my company) could easily set-up an on-line program for products, and work with
the collective to provide funds for additional NIL money.

 

[spiderstudent17]

If I had a contact we (my company) could easily set-up an on-line program for products, and work with
the collective to provide funds for additional NIL money.

Looks like there is a way to contact them on their website:

Contact - The Spiders' Collective

spidersnil.com

There are so many ways we can expand the outreach and engagement for our collective and I don’t understand why we don’t do it. Even if there are more individual big time donors (10K+) that are joining or existing donors are giving more, why wouldn’t you try and expand your outreach? Having membership levels offered either paid by month or year is a great way for people to donate various amounts they’re comfortable with and also feel connected to the collective. For instance, people can get monthly newsletters, opportunity to meet the team at events, join a zoom call with a coach, get autographed merchandise, etc. Also, how hard would it be to put the spider collective logo on some shirts and shorts and sell those online. Even things like you said Annap, where there can be partnership with companies or other businesses where the players provide advertisement for the company/business or something.

Even if we are getting money generously from donors there is so much untapped potential. It is to our benefit to be generating interest and income for our NIL in a variety of different ways.

 

[Eight Legger]

Here's the merch store that we've had for a year or so, where athletes get some percentage of sales when someone buys from their stores. I doubt any of them are seeing more than a few hundred bucks from this though, because our fan base is just not big enough.

https://athletesthread.com/pages/college/university-of-richmond

And then here's a page where you can offer some athletes a fee to show up at your event or sign something, etc.

The Official Richmond Spiders Marketplace for NIL Deals - Opendorse

Support Richmond Spiders athletes. Powered by Opendorse.

opendorse.com

 

[spider23]

I say we pitch in and buy Gkiller a Jack D`Entremont T shirt for his Birthday.

 

[spiderstudent17]

Merch I was thinking more things with the spider collective logo so anyone purchasing it not only donates to NIL but also becomes a walking advertisement for the NIL too.

In terms of meeting the team at events, I was thinking things more like a pre-season luncheon or practice like what we did in October.

We have opportunities for players to sell merchandise now or meet individually at private events, but that probably won’t be very popular.

I think it’s a good idea that the collective tries and come up with some ways to get people to feel connected and involved. Otherwise, it’s “give me a bunch of money” that you have no idea where it goes to or how it’s used, and then the expectation is to keep giving money even after an 8 D1 win season. Eventually even the big donors will get tired of that. Winning is the most important, but having people feel part of something is important too.

Example:
Bronze Membership: $21/mo or $250/yr
- Quarterly newsletters about the program
- Exclusive digital media. So things like video footage of practice or interviews only available to NIL members and not public
- Part of exclusive giveaways
- Discounts to UR spider shop or NIL collective store

Silver Membership: $42/mo or $500/yr
- Bronze Membership Perks
- Access to October NIL team practice
- Pre-season luncheon with coaches/teams
- Autographed memorabilia
- Free giveaways like Tumblr, shirts, etc.

Gold Membership: $82/mo or $1000/yr
- Bronze & Silver Membership Perks
- Even more exclusive monthly newsletters detailing prospective recruits, breakdown of team, scheduling updates, etc.
- Zoom calls (at least during off season) with the coaches to provide updates and answer questions about the team
- A nice annual gift from the collective

Platinum Membership: $417/mo or $5000/yr
- Bronze, Silver, and Gold Membership Perks
- Court side seat for big games in Robins Center and/or access to terrace for pregame hospitality events.
- An off-season golf outing with coaches.

 

[urfan1]

Merch I was thinking more things with the spider collective logo so anyone purchasing it not only donates to NIL but also becomes a walking advertisement for the NIL too.

In terms of meeting the team at events, I was thinking things more like a pre-season luncheon or practice like what we did in October.

We have opportunities for players to sell merchandise now or meet individually at private events, but that probably won’t be very popular.

I think it’s a good idea that the collective tries and come up with some ways to get people to feel connected and involved. Otherwise, it’s “give me a bunch of money” that you have no idea where it goes to or how it’s used, and then the expectation is to keep giving money even after an 8 D1 win season. Eventually even the big donors will get tired of that. Winning is the most important, but having people feel part of something is important too.

Example:
Bronze Membership: $21/mo or $250/yr
- Quarterly newsletters about the program
- Exclusive digital media. So things like video footage of practice or interviews only available to NIL members and not public
- Part of exclusive giveaways
- Discounts to UR spider shop or NIL collective store

Silver Membership: $42/mo or $500/yr
- Bronze Membership Perks
- Access to October NIL team practice
- Pre-season luncheon with coaches/teams
- Autographed memorabilia
- Free giveaways like Tumblr, shirts, etc.

Gold Membership: $82/mo or $1000/yr
- Bronze & Silver Membership Perks
- Even more exclusive monthly newsletters detailing prospective recruits, breakdown of team, scheduling updates, etc.
- Zoom calls (at least during off season) with the coaches to provide updates and answer questions about the team
- A nice annual gift from the collective

Platinum Membership: $417/mo or $5000/yr
- Bronze, Silver, and Gold Membership Perks
- Court side seat for big games in Robins Center and/or access to terrace for pregame hospitality events.
- An off-season golf outing with coaches.

17, good thoughts, I presented essentially this to some in power. It was resisted, their response was they needed the separation to encourage the large gifts, I reminded them $100 from 100 people equaled the same thing AND lead to people being more connected and willing to purchase tickets, swag, attend events, etc. They agreed but repeated the separation and reward for the larger donors.

 

[spiderstudent17]

17, good thoughts, I presented essentially this to some in power. It was resisted, their response was they needed the separation to encourage the large gifts, I reminded them $100 from 100 people equaled the same thing AND lead to people being more connected and willing to purchase tickets, swag, attend events, etc. They agreed but repeated the separation and reward for the larger donors.

Thanks for reaching out urfan1, and glad that this idea is at least being considered. What I proposed with the monetary value for each membership level is completely subjective. They can set the minimum for bronze at $500/yr for instance. Another option is if they want to encourage the larger gifts for people who donate more than move the gifts exclusively to people who donate $5K+ or something like that. Still, I think it is a good idea to have some low threshold for some kind of membership like ($100-250/yr) where people get digital or small things like quarterly newsletters, access to behind the scene video interviews/practice, sticks/car decals. Something where people can feel involved without having to pay a lot of money.

Things like zoom call with coaches, exclusive NIL gifts, private access to practices, luncheons, merchandise can be tiered for higher gifts.

At the end of the day, if we are meeting our goals with a bunch of donors donating a lot of money now, great. However, more can always be done and its a good thing to have more people feel a part of something larger than themselves.

Here are examples of memberships from VCU and NC State Collectives :

VCU: https://havocunltd.com/#memberships

NC State: https://onepacknil.com/pages/1pack-fans

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Urfan1, are there any benefits of donating to the NIL collective now and if so what are they/what is the donation needed for it? Seems like there are access to zoom calls during the off-season, but that's all I gathered. From what I've seen online too, those who have donated $10K+ get recognized. If the minimum to get any sort of engagement with the collective/program is $10K+ that is going to alienate a bunch of people who otherwise want to donate and feel some kind of connection with the collective.

 

[GKiller]

I say we pitch in and buy Gkiller a Jack D`Entremont T shirt for his Birthday.

D’Entremont 1 more example of Moon not figuring out who to play.

Imagine that T shirt w just the Spider logo & the word basketball. 10 times better. The “U R” remains so dumb.

And thank you. It’s October.