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[spider23]

And I'm sorry, I can't seem to locate where I posted my Mooney vs succesfull mid majors comparison, but there are more that can be made.

Utah State - This is third coach in three seasons. Guess what, last two (seasons) went to NCAA, and the current new coach is 10-0 and ranked top 50 KenPom. But NOOOOOOO you can't do that, or at least only way to do that is to hire a known criminal. Didn't dig too deep but so far have not hear any charges against Utah State's recent and current coaches.

 

[SpiderTrap]

Hiring a new coach in the these days with the portal might bring instant success (might) - as now they can bring there core players with them from previous school, and chances are - they were pretty good if your hiring them and they are moving up. VCU did this with Odom, and St. Louis is hoping it works with their coach and bringing Avila and Swope.

But lets be honest - Mooney is coming off an A10 regular season title. From my viewpoint of the administration - anytime he does that, or wins 20 games, or makes the NCAA - it buys him at least 3 more years, if not more - before any thought of change would occur. So while the team might not be good this year - he will still have 2-3 more years to produce a winning team that competes and get 3-4 more years.

 

[brooklyn brownstone]

Trap, we are all aware of this. It's why the complaints over unnecessary extensions - 2 in 3 years - abound. Prove that down seasons won't happen. Prove that extended down periods will not happen. I can understand the 2022 extension, following 2020, an NIT in 2021 and NCAA win in 2022. But this past one makes zero sense since it was preceded by an unacceptable losing season (including loss to W&M etc.), and now appears to be followed by an even worse season in the making.

Post 2022, i.e. the portal era years, have given zero NCAAs and now things look even bleaker for the next few years. One good year - but still one in which UR was never in contention or discussion for the NCAA Tournament, the one goalpost for any program - should not lead to additional years given the preceding year and outlook.

 

[SpiderTrap]

Trap, we are all aware of this. It's why the complaints over unnecessary extensions - 2 in 3 years - abound. Prove that down seasons won't happen. Prove that extended down periods will not happen. I can understand the 2022 extension, following 2020, an NIT in 2021 and NCAA win in 2022. But this past one makes zero sense since it was preceded by an unacceptable losing season (including loss to W&M etc.), and now appears to be followed by an even worse season in the making.

Post 2022, i.e. the portal era years, have given zero NCAAs and now things look even bleaker for the next few years. One good year - but still one in which UR was never in contention or discussion for the NCAA Tournament, the one goalpost for any program - should not lead to additional years given the preceding year and outlook.

I agree with everything - but the administration will be saying this one line. In the portal era - things can change in an instant. So while you say things look bleaker - that can all change immediately with some impactful and good portal signings. Some of which we thought we had this year, but they didn't work out. I don't disagree with you - just playing devil's advocate from the administration side. And yet to be seen if Mooney can truly succeed in the portal era - but under UR expectations, compete and be good every so often - he can do that. He is good for a good team about every 4 years, if not sooner. Not saying good gets into the NCAA, sometimes its just NIT - but I think that administration has shown - they are okay with that.