Smoke or Fire?
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He shot .415 from 3 and .803
From the free throw line. Started all 28 games. Good for
Him.
#10 Chandler Diekvoss
PositionForwardHeight6'6"Weight205HometownDePere, Wis.High SchoolWest DePerePrevious SchoolUniversity of Richmond
Lindenwood:
2016-17- Second-team all-MIAA … named the team’s Most Valuable Player … ranked 90th in NCAA Division II in field-goal percentage … ranked eighth in the MIAA in scoring, 11th in rebounding, third in field-goal percentage, and also in the top-30 in free-throw percentage, assists, and blocks … led the team in scoring, free-throws made, and minutes … second on the team in rebounds, assists, blocks, dunks, and field-goal percentage, and third in steals … appeared in 32 games and started every contest but one … shot 52.5 percent from the field, 32.9 percent from three-point range, and 72 percent from the free-throw line … collected 69 assists, 25 steals, and 15 blocks … made 24 three-pointers … averaged 13.1 points and 5.2 rebounds a game in MIAA contests … scored in double figures in 24 games, including nine games with 20 or more points … led the team in scoring in 15 contests … also led the team in rebounds 10 times, in assists eight times, in steals in six games, and in blocks in eight contests … had a season-high 30 points against Robert Morris-Springfield, making 10-of-16 from the field and 10-of-11 from the free-throw line … made 13 field goals and had 29 points in the win over Missouri-St. Louis … had four double-doubles on the year … had a season-high 16 rebounds versus Truman … other season-highs include three three-pointers, six assists, four blocks, and three steals … scored three points during a late 9-0 run to help the Lions defeat NCAA Tournament qualifier Truman … in the overtime win over Missouri Southern, helped the Lions overcome a late six-point deficit with a free throw and assisting on a three-pointer in back-to-back possessions … named to the MIAA Academic Honor Roll.
Wasn’t going to post but since we are off the topic of the smoke and fire. This transfer had a shot. Only went to Divison 2 because he already redshirted his freshman year. Mooney tied his hands. Forced him to division 2.
This is something I guess I just don't understand about roster management. So the season started here and there was probably a conversation suggesting that it would be best to redshirt. Then after the season is over and he hasn't played a minute to evaluate and he's out the door? Isn't there some middle ground?
I always thought Diekvoss could have been a perfect three-point gunner for our system. He's the only transfer who seems to have done really well at a lower level. Suspect he could have held his own here.
Agreed. Tough nosed kid played football in high school. Was the first kid in his class to commit to us. Odd deal all the way around.
Nick definitely had a dog his junior year... Not sure that it was a huge deal or not. I don't remember, really. I just remember he had some little kick dog for a bit.
I always thought Drew got a raw deal. Obviously was recruited by JW, but worked hard to become a 6'11" guy who could shoot the 3 (32.1% -- not too bad for a guy who had never shot a 3 before). Obviously athletic, because he played tennis. Just felt like Mooney never knew what to do with him.
so the "official" version was smoke? says here Vassallo couldn't get the 800, and UR denied Garcia's admission because he couldn't get his transcript from Belgium to UR before school was to start.
https://collegian.richmond.edu/cgi-...50901.2.42&e=-------en-20--1--txt-txIN-------
I'm worried about the rumors.
Then I go read the football boards, and I'm reminded that one of the main creators of "smoke" was creating similar smoke a year ago about Kyle Lauletta and others transferring to follow Rocco up to Newark.
So I'm a little less worried about the rumors.
Then I go read the football boards, and I'm reminded that one of the main creators of "smoke" was creating similar smoke a year ago about Kyle Lauletta and others transferring to follow Rocco up to Newark.
So I'm a little less worried about the rumors.
Always thought the decision to redshirt was a mutual decision between coach and the student athlete. This is suggesting otherwise.
Interesting. Any insights on the Bryce, AJ, Tomas situations? Were they coaches decision with player approval? Or was it more like the coaches told them they weren't good enough to get minutes this year, so would you like to redshirt?
If nothing else Tomas seemed a different situation since he was never announced as a redshirt.
I've never heard anything other than Mooney is very transparent with kids about their likelihood to contribute, has conversations with the kid and his parents, and it is a mutual decision. I believe various of our redshirts have said as much.
RIIIIIGHT.
Mooney is a BS artist, ask Paul's parents how they felt coming in to senior night. I will punish you Paul for not coming back even though I only let you run up and down the court once. Let's have some former transfers talk???
What he said...our system complexity does not allow players to be comfortable for at least half a season. Of course, we could try to not be so complex. But that would be just kooky.
We could also try to get someone not from northeastern or Chicago state.... or someone who averages more than 2 points per game
So while I fully concur with this, there’s evidence that even good players struggle with our system for their first 15 games or so, and that presumes they play starter minutes. It takes even longer for guys who are subbing.
All of this points to the reality that a one year player for us may not be that helpful. I’d love to be proven wrong.
Go look at that video I posted in the "Interesting stat thread." You might be surprised. Put it on full screen. Slow it down. Run it back and forth focusing on individual players and situations. You will shake your head hoping that is the worst it gets. The video doesn't lie. Some of the players are just going through the motions. Look at the one play with the high ball screen, the much maligned/discussed player leaving, and the player recently mentioned in this thread. Watch the play and watch the reaction of the coach in the background. Player A gets his a$$ yanked yet once again even though player B didn't do his job defensively. I used to see the same thing happen with Dunkier constantly. What is even worse is that Dunkier used to get caught guarding that 3 gunner in the corner while he was in just like you see over and over again in this video with GG and PF. I don't understand the strategy there.
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No he couldn’t and that’s why he transferred. He had 0 athleticism. It was obvious to anyone in the building who saw him practice. He can shoot, that’s about it.
Did I advocate that he should of been? Your guess is as good as mine. Im just saying dude couldn’t ball.
Oh Dre... I lived in Freeman freshman year, same floor as all the freshman ball players. We all used to play poker and dre used to play with us every once in awhile, until we caught him cheating... took Monty and Jarron telling him he couldn’t do what he was doing for him to stop. Funny guy. Nice enough other than blatantly cheating a $5 game of poker.
Mooney came in that off-season and completely changed the style of play. Most of those guys didn’t think they fit into his system and transferred (Courtney, Monty, Dre). I’m not sure if Crank’s switch was a basketball fit or him just wanting something new. Interesting and nice guy. I think from Wainwright’s last class, Jarron was the only one who lasted.
This may very well be the most inaccurate comment I’ve ever read on this entire thread. 0 atheltism? Really? You make that statement from a freshman in a practice?
Lol you obviously don’t read these boards much.
If he’s “so athletic” why didn’t he wind up at another D1 school?
I make this assessment by watching walk ons eating his lunch through multiple practices and his not so good HS tape and the fact he rarely if ever contributed on the floor for a average A10 team at the time. Never understood why we hyped him up. Only Luke P was comparable in his athleticism. He had a specific skill set which was only shooting. He didn’t even have a quick release.
Considering he didn’t wind up at another division I school I think it’s safe to say he wasn’t very athletic. That’s great what he’s doing at D2, but it’s not even close to being able to contribute at this level. Not for the level of an a10 player to contribute to a successful program.
No it’s just why he didn’t play and couldn’t contribute which was my point. Are you his father?
You've got to figure if some random guy on the internet can do this research, most programs are doing it as well. I could see Fore being a good get for a good team that needs some additional guard help. If he considers leaving? Who the heck knows?
what time in the video, pod? I'll look, but I don't want to spend 10 minutes looking.
Around 2:15-16. That hedge is horrible! Typical of the effort the whole game. That is a textbook video on how NOT to hedge/defend a high ball screen.(player B) There is nothing, nothing I can say positive about player B's fundamentals, footwork, effort, etc, etc. in that sequence. Nothing. I hope he at least announced the screen was coming. At least he could have put his hands up/ move towards the shooter instead of moving away from him and watching him take an open shot.
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