Good stuff Flyder, appreciate your effort and fandom.
Richmond Player Impact Matrix
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@VT4700 I've made some tweaks based on the following, and I think it makes a lot of sense:
What do you think?
- Points matter the most! You can't win if you don't score, so weighting for 2PT, 3PT, and FT Makes have been increased
- Misses aren't as critical, but still matter. They certainly can detract against your performance, but aren't the full story. 2PT, 3PT, and FT Misses have weight decreased, though smaller than the increase in Makes
- Weights for Rebounds, Fouls, Assists, Turnovers, Steals, and Blocks have all been adjusted down
| Player | RPIM |
| Isiah Bigelow | 19.60 |
| Tyler Burton | 16.62 |
| Neal Quinn | 13.13 |
| Jason Nelson | 12.16 |
| Andre Gustavson | 9.55 |
| Dji Bailey | 9.10 |
| Jason Roche | 6.23 |
| Marcus Randolph | 4.97 |
| Matt Grace | 4.40 |
| Aidan Noyes | 3.45 |
| Mike Walz | -0.20 |
What do you think?
now it's looking good.
no idea about your weighting, but a couple thoughts ...
fouls are probably the least important. they're not even always bad, and often are of no negative effect.
turnovers are the worst. they're an absolute end of possession so they're substantially worse than a missed shot. plus live-ball turnovers can be easy baskets the other way.
steals on the other hand may be the best for the opposite reason. if anything I'd adjust those up.
blocks are less valuable than steals as they don't always change possession.
Agreed, fouls are the lowest of weighting in RPIM. Turnovers have the highest weight out of these, so I think we're on the same page here.
Good point on blocks, I'll adjust that weight. Doesn't significantly affect VMI in any way
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All good points, Sman. I appreciate the time and effort flyder put into this, and am trying to help a little, but I still am not sure how telling it will really be. It's just too hard for me to look at a new number like this and make any sense of it. I think the eye test combined with a box score is all you really need to focus on, but again, that is just me. A box score doesn't lie. It is what it is. A new set of stats are hard to get into because you just don't know where they came from and how much a stat is weighted. So, let's say I miss seeing a game, I don't think there is anyway I would learn more from a new RPIM stat than a simple box score.
I could be in the minority here, but I am more of a regular stat guy, and not a deeper, analytics stat guy. Baseball drives me crazy with all of their stats, and I couldn't care less about all of their extra analytics they now use. I pretty much feel the same about other sports. But, again, just me and my opinion. I know plenty of people that get into the new baseball analytics, so flyder, please don't let my negativity toward this slow you down any. Just because I don't think it is telling doesn't mean others will agree with me.
@VT4700 Totally get it, advanced stats aren't for everyone. My only problem with box scores is that they rank by points if they're sorted but that's not totally the true story. Scoring 20 with 8/30 shooting is different than Scoring 20 with 8/12 shooting (along with other stats of course)
Here are the updated RPIM's for the 2017-2021 Seasons. Changes to note: TJ has had the best RPIM performance over the last 6 seasons, Sherod gets his due with 2018's Top RPIM, Francis moves up in 2020 and 2021, #2 in RPIM per game for both seasons. @VT4700 Seems to align with your thinking too.
2016-2017
2017-2018
2018-2019
2019-2020 (No Tournaments)
2020-2021 (Covid Shortened)
* = Key Injury
2016-2017
| Player | RPIM | RPIM/Game |
| TJ Cline | 906.90 | 25.91 |
| Shawndre' Jones | 791.80 | 22.62 |
| De'Monte Buckingham | 549.46 | 15.70 |
| Khwan Fore | 518.86 | 14.82 |
| Nick Sherod | 388.34 | 11.10 |
| Julius Johnson | 278.44 | 7.96 |
| Marshall Wood | 138.04 | 4.45 |
| Joe Kirby | 42.32 | 1.69 |
| Kwesi Abakah | 25.63 | 0.73 |
| Grant Golden* | 13.41 | 1.49 |
| Paul Friendshuh | 1.62 | 0.18 |
| Jesse Pistokache | 0.21 | 0.05 |
| Chase Fletcher | 0.20 | 0.07 |
| Keith Oddo | -0.55 | -0.55 |
2017-2018
| Player | RPIM | RPIM/Game |
| Nick Sherod | 677.56 | 21.17 |
| Jacob Gilyard | 641.77 | 20.06 |
| Grant Golden | 610.29 | 19.07 |
| De'Monte Buckingham | 528.65 | 17.62 |
| Khwan Fore | 419.84 | 14.48 |
| Julius Johnson | 194.45 | 6.08 |
| Nathan Cayo | 102.48 | 3.20 |
| Solly Stansbury | 65.51 | 3.85 |
| Joe Kirby | 46.07 | 1.71 |
| Keith Oddo | 9.18 | 1.84 |
| Paul Friendshuh | 6.06 | 0.28 |
| Jordin Madrid-Andrews | 2.76 | 0.21 |
2018-2019
| Player | RPIM | RPIM/Game |
| Jacob Gilyard | 793.29 | 25.59 |
| Grant Golden | 690.47 | 20.92 |
| Nathan Cayo | 560.36 | 16.98 |
| Jake Wojcik | 400.44 | 12.13 |
| Andre Gustavson | 256.29 | 8.27 |
| Noah Yates | 205.41 | 6.22 |
| Julius Johnson | 174.65 | 5.63 |
| Nick Sherod* | 108.87 | 18.14 |
| Matt Grace | 77.21 | 2.97 |
| Souleymane Koureissi | 73.78 | 2.38 |
| Bryce Schneider | 7.06 | 1.76 |
| Keith Oddo | 5.91 | 0.66 |
| Jordan Gaitley | 1.71 | 0.57 |
| Sullivan Kulju | 0.78 | 0.78 |
| Tomas Verbinskis | 0.30 | 0.10 |
2019-2020 (No Tournaments)
| Player | RPIM | RPIM/Game |
| Jacob Gilyard | 696.88 | 22.48 |
| Nick Sherod | 567.59 | 18.31 |
| Grant Golden | 522.95 | 18.03 |
| Blake Francis | 508.58 | 20.34 |
| Nathan Cayo | 384.05 | 12.80 |
| Andre Gustavson | 211.32 | 6.82 |
| Tyler Burton | 182.64 | 6.09 |
| Jake Wojcik | 151.93 | 4.90 |
| Souleymane Koureissi | 57.63 | 1.92 |
| Matt Grace | 46.97 | 1.62 |
| Tomas Verbinskis | 14.11 | 4.70 |
| Jordan Gaitley | 3.93 | 0.49 |
| Gabe Arizin | -0.19 | -0.04 |
| Sullivan Kulju | -5.55 | -0.69 |
2020-2021 (Covid Shortened)
| Player | RPIM | RPIM/Game |
| Jacob Gilyard | 498.33 | 21.67 |
| Blake Francis | 393.45 | 19.67 |
| Tyler Burton | 383.93 | 16.69 |
| Grant Golden | 378.88 | 18.04 |
| Nathan Cayo | 344.94 | 15.00 |
| Matt Grace | 128.87 | 5.60 |
| Andre Gustavson | 126.40 | 7.02 |
| Souleymane Koureissi | 66.26 | 2.88 |
| Isiah Wilson | 38.21 | 1.91 |
| Connor Crabtree | 33.25 | 8.31 |
| Dji Bailey | 25.71 | 2.86 |
| Sullivan Kulju | 6.90 | 3.45 |
| Jordan Gaitley | 1.10 | 0.55 |
| Gabe Arizin | 0.30 | 0.15 |
| Quentin Southall | 0.2 | 0.2 |
* = Key Injury
Nelson going 2-8 from the free throw line and picking up 4 fouls certainly detracts from his performance. (I’m not going to argue for or against this with anybody.) I’d focus less on trying to adjust the entire formula for a one game sample size and think that, using these metrics, Nelson maybe wasn’t as good as what the box score says.
Personally I’d be interested in seeing how things are weighted here, you’ve clearly worked on this a long time and have put a lot of thought in. Before I advocate for any tweaks though I’d love to see the setup. My Richmond degree is Economics so I really enjoy this type of stuff.
I think advanced stats are incredible metrics, but with every stat that exists you have to take them all into account. Every stat is a piece of the puzzle, sometimes you just have to figure out where each piece goes. If this is going to be adjusted so much that it just mirrors a box score then is it really a useful tool?
Really enjoy it, just wanted to provide some positive feedback
Personally I’d be interested in seeing how things are weighted here, you’ve clearly worked on this a long time and have put a lot of thought in. Before I advocate for any tweaks though I’d love to see the setup. My Richmond degree is Economics so I really enjoy this type of stuff.
I think advanced stats are incredible metrics, but with every stat that exists you have to take them all into account. Every stat is a piece of the puzzle, sometimes you just have to figure out where each piece goes. If this is going to be adjusted so much that it just mirrors a box score then is it really a useful tool?
Really enjoy it, just wanted to provide some positive feedback
It's true, I definitely don't want it looking like a box score, and it doesn't. Nelson at the top with points does not reflect his performance, thus he moves down 3 places.
I don't plan on making many more adjustments, I think based on a wider look, it's pretty close to complete, and thanks to all those who provided input to get it there!
Boiling an entire stat line down to a single number is always going to involve compromises. You can tweak weightings here and there, but even it's hard to get balance that properly reflects all players. Even then, some contributions don't even show up in the box score.
The RPIM is fine for what it is...people are of course free to look at or ignore it.
The RPIM is fine for what it is...people are of course free to look at or ignore it.
RPIM for the win over UNI
RPIM MVP: Jason Nelson
In advance of the comments regarding the negative numbers, just remember it's a cumulative statistic where additional performances will counteract these and Bigelow and Bailey went 0/7 on the night.
Great game from Nelson and Roche, and overall looking much better than the first game!!
RPIM MVP: Jason Nelson
| Player | RPIM |
| Jason Nelson | 30.45 |
| Jason Roche | 21.31 |
| Tyler Burton | 18.08 |
| Neal Quinn | 11.83 |
| Matt Grace | 9.17 |
| Marcus Randolph | 7.26 |
| Andre Gustavson | 6.04 |
| Gabe Arizin | 0.35 |
| Mike Walz | 0.10 |
| Aidan Noyes | 0.10 |
| Malcom Dread | -0.49 |
| Isaiah Bigelow | -2.08 |
| Dji Bailey | -4.62 |
In advance of the comments regarding the negative numbers, just remember it's a cumulative statistic where additional performances will counteract these and Bigelow and Bailey went 0/7 on the night.
Great game from Nelson and Roche, and overall looking much better than the first game!!
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RPIM from OT Loss to Charleston
RPIM MVP: Tyler Burton
Burton's play earns him one of the top RPIM scores in the last 5 years. Grace was impactful and consistent (hope he's ok), and Bigelow added some clutch shots and play to sit well on this list. Otherwise, not the best performance from our bench players. We're going to need more support if we want to win.
As said in the game thread, Nelson is going to be a streaky player, and last night was not one of his best. He has to clean up at the line and take more responsible shots. Some would say he should be above the Goose and I somewhat agree, however, if you take the second most shots on the team and don't produce, you will not be rewarded.
Liked the comeback, refs were reffing, but we can't get in that position. Mooney needs to figure out when to use a timeout properly to stop momentum, many times he calls them after long poor stretches, or when we score and have the momentum. Not gonna cut it
RPIM MVP: Tyler Burton
| Player | RPIM |
| Tyler Burton | 57.23 |
| Matt Grace | 28.46 |
| Isaiah Bigelow | 18.04 |
| Jason Roche | 5.11 |
| Neal Quinn | 4.87 |
| Andre Gustavson | 4.02 |
| Jason Nelson | 3.08 |
| Dji Bailey | -1.65 |
| Marcus Randolph | -1.13 |
Burton's play earns him one of the top RPIM scores in the last 5 years. Grace was impactful and consistent (hope he's ok), and Bigelow added some clutch shots and play to sit well on this list. Otherwise, not the best performance from our bench players. We're going to need more support if we want to win.
As said in the game thread, Nelson is going to be a streaky player, and last night was not one of his best. He has to clean up at the line and take more responsible shots. Some would say he should be above the Goose and I somewhat agree, however, if you take the second most shots on the team and don't produce, you will not be rewarded.
Liked the comeback, refs were reffing, but we can't get in that position. Mooney needs to figure out when to use a timeout properly to stop momentum, many times he calls them after long poor stretches, or when we score and have the momentum. Not gonna cut it
RPIM's from Loss to Wichita State
RPIM MVP: Isaiah Bigelow
Overall not a great team performance. Bigelow's Double Double puts him at the top, and, despite a season high in assists, JayNel once again shot poorly, he has to get some 3's to fall for him. Plus, 5 TO's didn't do him any favors. Burton is proving to be our most consistent option, but he has to shoot the ball better inside the arc, shots seem forced at times. 40% from 3 for Roche we'll take, just hope he continues to see more time.
Was disappointed again with the Goose, and disappointed that Mooney kept the bench short. This was a real opportunity to see Walz in action. Mooney showed last night he has no faith in his bench other than Roche, and that won't sit well with those players.
Overall, that loss sucks. Still time to turn it around, but a tough stretch of OOC upcoming will challenge us.
RPIM MVP: Isaiah Bigelow
| Player | RPIM |
| Isaiah Bigelow | 23.87 |
| Tyler Burton | 17.55 |
| Neal Quinn | 10.83 |
| Jason Roche | 9.83 |
| Jason Nelson | 7.70 |
| Andre Gustavson | 2.67 |
| Dji Bailey | 2.27 |
| Marcus Randolph | -0.50 |
Overall not a great team performance. Bigelow's Double Double puts him at the top, and, despite a season high in assists, JayNel once again shot poorly, he has to get some 3's to fall for him. Plus, 5 TO's didn't do him any favors. Burton is proving to be our most consistent option, but he has to shoot the ball better inside the arc, shots seem forced at times. 40% from 3 for Roche we'll take, just hope he continues to see more time.
Was disappointed again with the Goose, and disappointed that Mooney kept the bench short. This was a real opportunity to see Walz in action. Mooney showed last night he has no faith in his bench other than Roche, and that won't sit well with those players.
Overall, that loss sucks. Still time to turn it around, but a tough stretch of OOC upcoming will challenge us.
Richmond RPIM's for Loss to Syracuse
RPIM MVP: Jason Nelson
Burton had an uncharacteristically terrible game, particularly at the line. I've never seen Tyler like that at the line, I expect him to put in the work and not have that happen. I think he got in his head a bit, seeing as this was a televised game and he has a shot to make the NBA.
Nelson's clutch 3 point shooting and general playmaking put him at the top here. It was a consistent performance, but would've liked to have seen the ball move faster, when that happened, we got going. I blame Mooney for this more than Nelson, but still.
Finally, Roche showed he deserves to be starting in my opinion. Goose was not that impressive on defense (though it improved in the second half until that foul on the 3) and I've seen Roche improve in this area. Not sure what Mooney sees in Goose other than his speed to the basket and D, neither of which have been impactful.
It was absolutely criminal that Roche did not even see OT until the final 30 seconds, absolutely absurd. This is loss is on Mooney, plain and simple. I support coach, but I think he has to continue to rely less on himself and more on his assistants, or these late game blunders are only going to compound themselves.
Overall, this loss isn't the end of the world, but we really should be at least 3-2 right now, really 4-1, and that's tough to swallow.
RPIM MVP: Jason Nelson
| Player | RPIM |
| Jason Nelson | 25.89 |
| Jason Roche | 18.28 |
| Isaiah Bigelow | 16.78 |
| Neal Quinn | 15.44 |
| Tyler Burton | 9.49 |
| Dji Bailey | 8.84 |
| Andre Gustavson | 1.55 |
| Marcus Randolph | 0.20 |
| Michael Walz | -0.65 |
Burton had an uncharacteristically terrible game, particularly at the line. I've never seen Tyler like that at the line, I expect him to put in the work and not have that happen. I think he got in his head a bit, seeing as this was a televised game and he has a shot to make the NBA.
Nelson's clutch 3 point shooting and general playmaking put him at the top here. It was a consistent performance, but would've liked to have seen the ball move faster, when that happened, we got going. I blame Mooney for this more than Nelson, but still.
Finally, Roche showed he deserves to be starting in my opinion. Goose was not that impressive on defense (though it improved in the second half until that foul on the 3) and I've seen Roche improve in this area. Not sure what Mooney sees in Goose other than his speed to the basket and D, neither of which have been impactful.
It was absolutely criminal that Roche did not even see OT until the final 30 seconds, absolutely absurd. This is loss is on Mooney, plain and simple. I support coach, but I think he has to continue to rely less on himself and more on his assistants, or these late game blunders are only going to compound themselves.
Overall, this loss isn't the end of the world, but we really should be at least 3-2 right now, really 4-1, and that's tough to swallow.
Richmond RPIM's for Win over Temple
RPIM MVP: Tyler Burton
Overall a solid game for the Spiders! Burton wasn't at his true best, particularly from 3, but his efficiency inside the arc is rewarded here. I like his aggressive play, it opens up the floor but also allows him to show his athleticism for NBA scouts in and around the basket. A nice recovery game for him.
Goose shut me up last night. Defensively, he still has work to do (particularly late game fouls), but, similar to Burton, he was aggressive driving to the basket and made smart decisions with his shot selection. Efficient and effective.
Randolph surprised me the most last night, he seems plenty ready to go, and easily has won his spot in the rotation ahead of Bailey. Having Goose on their best player the whole game clearly tires him out and forces him into poor decisions. Adding Randolph into the mix loosened the Goose, while showing Mooney he's made a mistake not playing Randolph this season more. Excited to see more of him in the coming games as Mooney figures out his A10 lineup that he will absolutely not change under any circumstance.
Overall, we need to get out to better starts. Our second half performances overall have largely been commendable, but that's not going to cut it. Move the basketball, be active, make smart decisions, and shots will fall!
RPIM MVP: Tyler Burton
| Player | RPIM |
| Tyler Burton | 26.56 |
| Andre Gustavson | 21.31 |
| Jason Nelson | 17.29 |
| Marcus Randolph | 9.10 |
| Jason Roche | 8.88 |
| Neal Quinn | 7.33 |
| Dji Bailey | 0.35 |
| Michael Walz | 0.20 |
| Isaiah Bigelow | -0.51 |
Overall a solid game for the Spiders! Burton wasn't at his true best, particularly from 3, but his efficiency inside the arc is rewarded here. I like his aggressive play, it opens up the floor but also allows him to show his athleticism for NBA scouts in and around the basket. A nice recovery game for him.
Goose shut me up last night. Defensively, he still has work to do (particularly late game fouls), but, similar to Burton, he was aggressive driving to the basket and made smart decisions with his shot selection. Efficient and effective.
Randolph surprised me the most last night, he seems plenty ready to go, and easily has won his spot in the rotation ahead of Bailey. Having Goose on their best player the whole game clearly tires him out and forces him into poor decisions. Adding Randolph into the mix loosened the Goose, while showing Mooney he's made a mistake not playing Randolph this season more. Excited to see more of him in the coming games as Mooney figures out his A10 lineup that he will absolutely not change under any circumstance.
Overall, we need to get out to better starts. Our second half performances overall have largely been commendable, but that's not going to cut it. Move the basketball, be active, make smart decisions, and shots will fall!
Yep, Goose looked really good last night. Finished at the basket, and made some really nice decisive drives. And knocked down that corner 3. I am hoping he has been in ramp up mode and that is the Goose we get more often. He was away for part of the summer workouts if I recall, so maybe that set him back a bit. But thought he played a good game.
Richmond RPIM's for Loss at Toledo
RPIM MVP: Jason Roche
I'll say it once and I'll say it again. Roche should be starting every game, keeping him on our bench right now is absurd. He's a pure shooter who's shooting nearly 50% from 3 this season. Instead we let Bigelow shoot wild 3's and let Burton try to win games himself (and it's clearly not working for him). The players played terribly, but Mooney should be ashamed of himself at this point, and I'm not even a Mooney hater. He still does not have a handle on this lineup and this team, Gilly and Grant are gone, and his "replacements" (Quinn and Nelson) just aren't there yet (emphasis on yet) to fill the same role.
Remember when Sherod was in his prime 3-4 years back? Roche is the equivalent, and yet Mooney can't get himself to give him the time he deserves on the court. Change it up coach!!
RPIM MVP: Jason Roche
| Player | RPIM |
| Jason Roche | 22.45 |
| Andre Gustavson | 17.77 |
| Tyler Burton | 16.14 |
| Isaiah Bigelow | 14.17 |
| Dji Bailey | 5.20 |
| Jason Nelson | 4.19 |
| Neal Quinn | 3.03 |
| Marcus Randolph | 0.82 |
| Michael Walz | 0.40 |
| Aidan Noyes | 0.10 |
| Connor Crabtree | 0.08 |
I'll say it once and I'll say it again. Roche should be starting every game, keeping him on our bench right now is absurd. He's a pure shooter who's shooting nearly 50% from 3 this season. Instead we let Bigelow shoot wild 3's and let Burton try to win games himself (and it's clearly not working for him). The players played terribly, but Mooney should be ashamed of himself at this point, and I'm not even a Mooney hater. He still does not have a handle on this lineup and this team, Gilly and Grant are gone, and his "replacements" (Quinn and Nelson) just aren't there yet (emphasis on yet) to fill the same role.
Remember when Sherod was in his prime 3-4 years back? Roche is the equivalent, and yet Mooney can't get himself to give him the time he deserves on the court. Change it up coach!!
RPIM from loss to William & Mary (Forgot to post this earlier because I was in pure shock of our performance)
RPIM MVP: Tyler Burton
Need more production from Bigelow and Nelson or we'll never win. Tough Roche didn't have a great game but he barely got any shot attempts. I don't understand Mooney blatantly misusing Roche, just because he has a couple misses, doesn't mean go elsewhere. We'll never establish ourselves and Roche himself as a 3 point threat with Mooney's current approach
RPIM MVP: Tyler Burton
| Player | RPIM |
| Tyler Burton | 35.05 |
| Neal Quinn | 17.30 |
| Andre Gustavson | 9.79 |
| Matt Grace | 9.48 |
| Marcus Randolph | 5.29 |
| Isaiah Bigelow | 5.17 |
| Jason Nelson | 3.45 |
| Dji Bailey | 1.57 |
| Jason Roche | -0.37 |
Need more production from Bigelow and Nelson or we'll never win. Tough Roche didn't have a great game but he barely got any shot attempts. I don't understand Mooney blatantly misusing Roche, just because he has a couple misses, doesn't mean go elsewhere. We'll never establish ourselves and Roche himself as a 3 point threat with Mooney's current approach
RPIM from Win over Drake
RPIM MVP: Neal Quinn
Now that's a balanced attack. 5 players with 10+ RPIM's and 3 with 20+ RPIM's, that's extremely rare to see! It's clear the team put in the extra work following the disappointing string of losses, particularly to W&M, especially JayNel! Quinn and JayNel's play picking up with not long to go before A-10 play is exactly what we want to see! Not too much to complain about in this game, we had it in control from the jump, which is rare for a Mooney coached team. Let's get out to leads like that again!
RPIM MVP: Neal Quinn
| Player | RPIM |
| Neal Quinn | 28.91 |
| Jason Nelson | 27.69 |
| Tyler Burton | 23.20 |
| Isaiah Bigelow | 11.94 |
| Jason Roche | 10.78 |
| Matt Grace | 7.47 |
| Connor Crabtree | 5.15 |
| Michael Walz | 5.03 |
| Andre Gustavson | 2.23 |
| Dji Bailey | 1.18 |
| Aidan Noyes | 0.65 |
| Marcus Randolph | -1.64 |
Now that's a balanced attack. 5 players with 10+ RPIM's and 3 with 20+ RPIM's, that's extremely rare to see! It's clear the team put in the extra work following the disappointing string of losses, particularly to W&M, especially JayNel! Quinn and JayNel's play picking up with not long to go before A-10 play is exactly what we want to see! Not too much to complain about in this game, we had it in control from the jump, which is rare for a Mooney coached team. Let's get out to leads like that again!
Good stuff. I enjoy checking these out. I am not a big stats guy, but they do seem to be pretty well aligned with the eye test now. Thought Dji played well too, even if not showing up here.
@PASpider My plan was to post the cumulative RPIM's at after tomorrow's game, through the first 10 games, along with some other intel! Let's just say Tyler is running away with it
RPIM's from Win over FDU
RPIM MVP: Isaiah Bigelow
Great game all around here. Bigelow was efficient, with 17 points in 16 minutes, a real nice game from him! Love to see Noyes perform well getting some more time, might make Mooney want to think some more about giving him some minutes. Not much to complain about here, but no matter the time, you have to protect the basketball!
RPIM MVP: Isaiah Bigelow
| Player | RPIM |
| Isaiah Bigelow | 27.14 |
| Tyler Burton | 20.83 |
| Neal Quinn | 20.13 |
| Jason Nelson | 15.41 |
| Jason Roche | 13.23 |
| Aidan Noyes | 9.31 |
| Matt Grace | 7.29 |
| Andre Gustavson | 5.54 |
| Marcus Randolph | 4.34 |
| Dji Bailey | 3.89 |
| Michael Walz | 2.09 |
| Connor Crabtree | 1.03 |
| Malcolm Dread | 0.70 |
| Gabe Arizin | 0.20 |
| Liam Weaver | -0.03 |
| Quentin Southall | -1.16 |
Great game all around here. Bigelow was efficient, with 17 points in 16 minutes, a real nice game from him! Love to see Noyes perform well getting some more time, might make Mooney want to think some more about giving him some minutes. Not much to complain about here, but no matter the time, you have to protect the basketball!
RPIM's from Loss to Clemson
RPIM MVP: Tyler Burton
Burton looked like he belonged in ACC play, everyone else looked like they belonged at FDU. Brutal loss across the board. But, this game proved one thing once again: Mooney has no idea who his team is, at all. Matt Grace shooting as many 3's as Jason Roche, are you kidding? That's a joke, a complete and utter joke. 3 of our starters in the negative for RPIM's is beyond bad, just unbelievable. I'm worried about our chemistry headed into A-10 play, hope these last couple games prove me wrong.
RPIM MVP: Tyler Burton
| Player | RPIM |
| Tyler Burton | 28.62 |
| Neal Quinn | 10.58 |
| Marcus Randolph | 9.03 |
| Jason Roche | 8.99 |
| Aidan Noyes | 8.30 |
| Isaiah Bigelow | 5.61 |
| Michael Walz | 1.55 |
| Connor Crabtree | 0.26 |
| Andre Gustavson | -0.19 |
| Jason Nelson | -2.41 |
| Matt Grace | -3.31 |
Burton looked like he belonged in ACC play, everyone else looked like they belonged at FDU. Brutal loss across the board. But, this game proved one thing once again: Mooney has no idea who his team is, at all. Matt Grace shooting as many 3's as Jason Roche, are you kidding? That's a joke, a complete and utter joke. 3 of our starters in the negative for RPIM's is beyond bad, just unbelievable. I'm worried about our chemistry headed into A-10 play, hope these last couple games prove me wrong.
I'm worried more about History than I am Chemistry.
Negative RPIM from 3 starters is not a recipe for success. Love me some MFG, but as sman has pointed out, the YOY trend is that he is not a very successful 3 pt shooter. I don't mind him jacking one now or then ( or even when it's winning time), but does not seem like he should be volume shooting them. Reed looks like a guy that can shoot them, I know 47 thinks we recruit great 3pt shooting bigs, but not for awhile, not for awhile.
I couldn't agree more with these statements Flyder. The "starting five" simply to do not play together that well. Sure they can crush an under-manned team like FDU, but otherwise they are shaky at best. The problem with the next 2 games is once again the opponents are low quality, so the Spiders are going to "suddenly" look much better without any changes. What should happen is Mooney should mix it up and try to find something that works better, but he won't.
Sidebar: I don't know what MFG was thinking in the Clemson game and was disappointed that Mooney didn't have any "pointers" for him. But we all know that he doesn't criticize the starters (at least in-game). Mooney seems to think the "big lineup" from last year should be duplicated as the "standard", but Matt and Neal do not complement each other like Matt and Grant.
RPIM's from Win over Bucknell
RPIM MVP: Tyler Burton
A solid game overall from everyone. Burton was on fire, and, in particular, Grace and the Goose are showing their worth, finally. I still do not understand Roche's minimal use, he's our best shooter other than Burton, Mooney has to get him more time and shots or we'll be in trouble in A-10 Play
RPIM MVP: Tyler Burton
| Player | RPIM |
| Tyler Burton | 43.57 |
| Matt Grace | 27.41 |
| Andre Gustavson | 17.09 |
| Jason Nelson | 15.47 |
| Jason Roche | 12.32 |
| Neal Quinn | 6.63 |
| Isaiah Bigelow | 3.59 |
| Marcus Randolph | -1.05 |
A solid game overall from everyone. Burton was on fire, and, in particular, Grace and the Goose are showing their worth, finally. I still do not understand Roche's minimal use, he's our best shooter other than Burton, Mooney has to get him more time and shots or we'll be in trouble in A-10 Play
RPIM's for Win over Coppin State
RPIM MVP: Neal Quinn
One of our better RPIM performances as a team this year. Our top performers are starting to show through, and great to see Tyler have a decent enough game but have others do even better. Quinn played phenomenal in the second half and Roche gave us some needed 3's in the first half. Players stepping up when we need it are exactly what we want to see headed into A-10 play.
RPIM MVP: Neal Quinn
| Player | RPIM |
| Neal Quinn | 30.28 |
| Jason Roche | 24.86 |
| Tyler Burton | 20.88 |
| Andre Gustavson | 19.10 |
| Matt Grace | 12.74 |
| Marcus Randolph | 7.88 |
| Jason Nelson | 6.29 |
| Isaiah Bigelow | 5.51 |
| Connor Crabtree | 0.28 |
| Aidan Noyes | 0.20 |
| Michael Walz | -0.05 |
One of our better RPIM performances as a team this year. Our top performers are starting to show through, and great to see Tyler have a decent enough game but have others do even better. Quinn played phenomenal in the second half and Roche gave us some needed 3's in the first half. Players stepping up when we need it are exactly what we want to see headed into A-10 play.
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RPIM's for Loss to George Mason
RPIM MVP: Matt Grace
Overall, it was a pretty lousy game, and it shows here in the RPIM's. Burton went 20+ but at a cost, Grace went 15+ but at a cost, both are under 20 for RPIM's which should not happen with those point totals. Burton's worse efficiency inside the arc and at the line were damaging, and Grace's poor 3 point shooting almost did him in. Grace should never be putting that many up and this time, that's on him. He has to know that's not his shot and really should be taking 2-3 a game only. Poor shooting night from Roche, but on 3 attempts. I'll stand by this until I die, but he needs more minutes, it's absolutely absurd at this point. Shame on Mooney
RPIM MVP: Matt Grace
| Player | RPIM |
| Matt Grace | 17.30 |
| Tyler Burton | 16.28 |
| Jason Nelson | 12.36 |
| Marcus Randolph | 11.05 |
| Neal Quinn | 4.70 |
| Andre Gustavson | 2.53 |
| Jason Roche | 1.44 |
| Connor Crabtree | 0.60 |
| Isaiah Bigelow | 0.01 |
Overall, it was a pretty lousy game, and it shows here in the RPIM's. Burton went 20+ but at a cost, Grace went 15+ but at a cost, both are under 20 for RPIM's which should not happen with those point totals. Burton's worse efficiency inside the arc and at the line were damaging, and Grace's poor 3 point shooting almost did him in. Grace should never be putting that many up and this time, that's on him. He has to know that's not his shot and really should be taking 2-3 a game only. Poor shooting night from Roche, but on 3 attempts. I'll stand by this until I die, but he needs more minutes, it's absolutely absurd at this point. Shame on Mooney
Agreed to all - on a side note, had Bigelow hit the 3 when we had a chance to tie the game we would all be talking about his major contribution with the 11 boards
Just a shame he's been unable to match that level of contribution with his shot making. He has the NBA body, just needs to see some drop. Hopefully he'll be able to pick that up throughout A-10 play
I think whatever formula is being used needs a lot of tweaking. Bigelow had 12 rebounds, including 4 offensive, and 0 turnovers in 19 minutes. If you are talking about impacting a game, that can't possibly equal 0.01 in any formula, anywhere, anytime.
