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Really? what was the date that became effective?

Or did I oversleep and it is 2023?
 
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Really? what was the date that became effective?

Or did I oversleep and it is 2023?

Exactly Buck don’t take Trap’s advice and sign with the car dealership. We want you to keep your eligibility & watch u play this year.

I do think Buck is one & done in Cali tho. My prediction is he’s a p6 hired gun grad transfer next offseason.
 
I don't see him helping a P6 much. At his size, he
can't handle or shoot well enough. He is a great athlete, and that should help him this year, like it helped him playing for us, but I would be shocked if he ends up helping a P6 team.
 
I don't see him helping a P6 much. At his size, he
can't handle or shoot well enough. He is a great athlete, and that should help him this year, like it helped him playing for us, but I would be shocked if he ends up helping a P6 team.
That sounds like the same claim that was made about Khwan and he ended up on an NCAA tournament P6 team. I expect a variety of programs will keep an eye on him, particularly if he keeps his off court problems clean.

He'd have to produce a solid season this year though to show potential suitors that he can contribute at that level.
 
That sounds like the same claim that was made about Khwan and he ended up on an NCAA tournament P6 team. I expect a variety of programs will keep an eye on him, particularly if he keeps his off court problems clean.

He'd have to produce a solid season this year though to show potential suitors that he can contribute at that level.

Yep. I guess it could happen. Difference in Khwan is he could handle the ball better. But, you are right. I should not count Buck out yet. Only takes 1 team out if 60 some to want him.
 
Technically - now that Buck is an NCAA Athlete is California - he can get money for his likeness. If Buck wants to do a commercial for the car dealer who is an alumni of the school or use his image for flyers, etc - Buck can get paid for that and by law the school can't punish him.
The court battles with the NCAA will be long and arduous before this really takes effect.
 
Technically - now that Buck is an NCAA Athlete is California - he can get money for his likeness. If Buck wants to do a commercial for the car dealer who is an alumni of the school or use his image for flyers, etc - Buck can get paid for that and by law the school can't punish him.
Weed's legal, too.
 
I don't see him helping a P6 much. At his size, he
can't handle or shoot well enough. He is a great athlete, and that should help him this year, like it helped him playing for us, but I would be shocked if he ends up helping a P6 team.
He is expected to transfer to Bama and replace their graduating tight end. Tight ends don't shoot or have to handle the ball all that much.
 
Yep. I guess it could happen. Difference in Khwan is he could handle the ball better. But, you are right. I should not count Buck out yet. Only takes 1 team out if 60 some to want him.
Buck was named preseason 1st team for a conference he has yet to even suit up for yet. He was A-10 rookie of the year.
 
Buck was named preseason 1st team for a conference he has yet to even suit up for yet. He was A-10 rookie of the year.
where did you see that?

2019-20 Preseason Men's Basketball Coaches' Poll

Rank Teams (1st-Place Votes) Points
1 NM State (8) 64
2 Grand Canyon (1) 57
3 Seattle U 43
4 UT Rio Grande Valley 39
5 California Baptist 34
T-6. CSU Bakersfield 30
T-6. Utah Valley 30
8 Kansas City 16
9 Chicago State 11


2019-20 Preseason Men's Basketball Coaches' All-WAC Teams
First Team
Milan Acquaah, California Baptist
Terrell Brown, NM State
Terrell Brown, Seattle U
Carlos Johnson, Grand Canyon
Alessandro Lever, Grand Canyon

Second Team
Ivan Aurrecoechea, NM State
Myles Carter, Seattle U
AJ Harris, NM State
Javon Levi, UT Rio Grande Valley
Trevelin Queen, NM State

https://wacsports.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/releases/20191008i5pci0
 
where did you see that?

2019-20 Preseason Men's Basketball Coaches' Poll

Rank Teams (1st-Place Votes) Points
1 NM State (8) 64
2 Grand Canyon (1) 57
3 Seattle U 43
4 UT Rio Grande Valley 39
5 California Baptist 34
T-6. CSU Bakersfield 30
T-6. Utah Valley 30
8 Kansas City 16
9 Chicago State 11


2019-20 Preseason Men's Basketball Coaches' All-WAC Teams
First Team
Milan Acquaah, California Baptist
Terrell Brown, NM State
Terrell Brown, Seattle U
Carlos Johnson, Grand Canyon
Alessandro Lever, Grand Canyon

Second Team
Ivan Aurrecoechea, NM State
Myles Carter, Seattle U
AJ Harris, NM State
Javon Levi, UT Rio Grande Valley
Trevelin Queen, NM State

https://wacsports.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/releases/20191008i5pci0
Maybe he saw it on post #34;)
 
According to three-man-weave, he is. <shrug>

FWIW, 3MW picked UR 5th in the A-10 and has Gilyard and Golden on 2nd-Team.
 
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got it. didn't know 3MW was a website.
Coaches don't have Buck on a preseason team. it'll be interesting to see how he does. he very well might be better than ever. he was really good as a freshman. he's had a lot of time to work on his game.
 
Really? what was the date that became effective?

Or did I oversleep and it is 2023?
It is effective right now! It was passed into law in California Sept. 30th.
I believe 9 other states already have similar laws drafted and will looking to pass them as well in the coming months.
The main issue is the NCAA may get in the way, but not sure yet. They may say any school that allows kids to accept money can not compete in NCAA events (i.e. NCAA tournaments). Right now - they have that power because California is the only state. But as other states pass similar laws - the NCAA will lose this power, because they need the schools as much as the schools need them. Especially when it comes to Men's basketball and I have to believe the big name schools will be all in favor of these because it will eliminate the need for them to "illegally" pay these kids in shady back room deals. They can simply give the money to a donor with a local business and tell them to pay the kid for a promo deal and all of sudden - no need to worry about NCAA Sanctions anymore.
They key will be getting other states on board with the right schools. California is a good start cause you got big name schools like UCLA, USC, Stanford, Cal Berkeley. Now if they can get states like Florida, North Carolina, Texas, etc involved - the schools will have something to go against the NCAA with.
 
Maybe he saw it on post #34;)
Yes, that is where I saw that. Presumed that was the actual conference preseason teams. Apologies, I stand corrected. Still think Buck will end up on one the WAC all conference teams at the end of the year. Dude can play. He showed that in high school, he showed that here, he will show at Bakerfield.

Him getting dismissed from the team was one of my personal low points for the program. He had the potential to save Mooney's job by being a local kid, who played with heart and toughness and was a fan favorite. He was the heart and soul of our team (at least on the court). Could have really opened up in roads for Mooney being able to recruit his own backyard. I can't blame Mooney for him getting dismissed, that is on Buck, but just wish we would have put some more supports around Buck for him to remain here and be successful.
 
It is effective right now! It was passed into law in California Sept. 30th.
I believe 9 other states already have similar laws drafted and will looking to pass them as well in the coming months.
The main issue is the NCAA may get in the way, but not sure yet. They may say any school that allows kids to accept money can not compete in NCAA events (i.e. NCAA tournaments). Right now - they have that power because California is the only state. But as other states pass similar laws - the NCAA will lose this power, because they need the schools as much as the schools need them. Especially when it comes to Men's basketball and I have to believe the big name schools will be all in favor of these because it will eliminate the need for them to "illegally" pay these kids in shady back room deals. They can simply give the money to a donor with a local business and tell them to pay the kid for a promo deal and all of sudden - no need to worry about NCAA Sanctions anymore.
They key will be getting other states on board with the right schools. California is a good start cause you got big name schools like UCLA, USC, Stanford, Cal Berkeley. Now if they can get states like Florida, North Carolina, Texas, etc involved - the schools will have something to go against the NCAA with.
The California Governor signed the "Fair Play to Pay Act" on September 30th.

"California is the first state to pass such a law, which is to take effect on Jan. 1, 2023."
https://www.npr.org/2019/09/30/7657...wing-college-athletes-to-profit-from-endorsem

"These provisions would become operative on January 1, 2023."
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200SB206

Did you personally change that?;)

The delay was created to give the NCAA and the Federal Government time to create their own version before it starts.
 
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Oddo looks good during TV timeout. Go Cards!
Yes, our resident board genius was down on Chris Mack just as he is irrationally high on Mooney. Go figure. Oddo may get some pt tonight. Mr. casual fan Johhny Newman era, but can condescendingly point out the difference in teaching man to man to sman expert. Must be a member of our staff with the low bbal IQ displayed. Going to be a fun season for Hardt, will be hiding under his desk.
 
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Watching the CSU Bakersfield game, keeping an eye on Buck. He has 7 rebounds, 7 assists, 7 points and 2 steals at the half.
 
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Vs non D1?

Yeah, DII. he didn't get much playing time in the 2nd half since CSUB has had like a 40 point lead for most of the half. Looks like Buck will end up with 12 points, 8 assists, 7 rebounds, and 3 steals in 24 minutes. It will be interesting to see how the team does against D1 competition.
 
Yeah, DII. he didn't get much playing time in the 2nd half since CSUB has had like a 40 point lead for most of the half. Looks like Buck will end up with 12 points, 8 assists, 7 rebounds, and 3 steals in 24 minutes. It will be interesting to see how the team does against D1 competition.
We can definitely use his toughness and rebounding, something lacking on our team.
 
We can definitely use his toughness and rebounding, something lacking on our team.

He made his own bed. Enjoy bakersfield. I still find it ironic, that unlike when Kwan left, there were no heartfelt Social media good byes by his teammates. They know he F'd them.

Loved him as a player, he could have/should have/would have been one of the great legends in School history.
 
He's not sticking around Bakersfield any longer than he needs to. This year is a showcase season for him. He'll be playing P5 next year.
 
I stand corrected - the bill in California does not take effect until 2023 - but in recent news - the NCAA has come out and said they support this law and will be working on a way to implement this fairly across the board- so get ready for it - in 2023, college athletes will be getting paid by the local car dealership.
 
I still find it ironic, that unlike when Kwan left, there were no heartfelt Social media good byes by his teammates.
Why is that ironic? I wouldn't expect heartfelt goodbyes when someone gets kicked off the team.
It's not ironic when you throw one coworker a retirement party but not a party for the guy who got fired.

Last time I checked, his former Spider teammates were still following/liking/friends with him.
 
Why is that ironic? I wouldn't expect heartfelt goodbyes when someone gets kicked off the team.
It's not ironic when you throw one coworker a retirement party but not a party for the guy who got fired.

Last time I checked, his former Spider teammates were still following/liking/friends with him.

whether we liked it or not, Kwan earned his right to GT. Buck was made a center piece of this team from the moment he arrived on campus and he squandered it and in the process let his teammates down.
 
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whether we liked it or not, Kwan earned his right to GT. Buck was made a center piece of this team from the moment he arrived on campus and he squandered it and in the process let his teammates down.
I agree with all of this. I pushed back against those who called Khwan a traitor. I just didn't find it "ironic" that they didn't give Buck a big sendoff on social media. That seems like normal behavior. Why would a current Spider post something publicly that could put him in Mooney's doghouse? It's not as if they all blackballed him.

Anyway, this was a year and a half ago. Spider fans who wish to follow Buck are welcome to; same for those who choose to ignore him. The local media is certainly going to update us on how he's doing.
 
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Because he wants to come home?
Any ....reason you think that?

Come home. Bro was athlete at vcu. Recruited by vcu out of hs. They go to ncaa’s & see them going hard after Buck. He might want to stick it to UR too.

Think p6 more likely but vcu would not surprise me.
 
If not P5 then VCU
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Come home. Bro was athlete at vcu. Recruited by vcu out of hs. They go to ncaa’s & see them going hard after Buck. He might want to stick it to UR too.

Think p6 more likely but vcu would not surprise me.

Just remember, he will be able to out athlete guys this year, and should get some good stats and be a be a good player for Bakersfield as a result, but you can't just out athlete guys as much at the P6 level.
 
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