Possible New Coaches
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7.5 mil needs to be raised for the new basketball facility. Mooney will not be going anywhere anytime soon.
Just playing around with the HOT coach of the tourney so far. Have to say, looked up UMBC record for 7 seasons before Odum took over, 41-162 bad. Includes 4-26 in 2015 while 7-25 in 2016. He takes over and goes 21-13 last year and now 25-10.
Of course UR won't get him, but if I was AD at some other mid-major lacking any success over the years, instant sight unseen hire for me on just what he has done in 2 years. Tonight's game made me look up his short but impressive resume.
Of course UR won't get him, but if I was AD at some other mid-major lacking any success over the years, instant sight unseen hire for me on just what he has done in 2 years. Tonight's game made me look up his short but impressive resume.
A hire like him is the perfect scenerio for a mid-major. He reminds me of Marshall when at Winthrop. Took over a nothing program and even beat ND in ncaa tourney. He was a cant miss because he proved what he could do. If he stays a umbc for a couple more years they will doninate their league and likely win a couple more tourney games.
All I can say is I am extremely glad this board has no input to the hiring process.
Yea ok... we will see in five years who is coaching at a higher level and leading their team to big wins. I will put my money on the son of the former Deacs coach.
Yes, my money is on that guy too. I have seen enough of Moon Dog not to put any $ on him, that is for sure.
Instead of possible new coaches. Old coaches...
Michigan with the freshman buzzer beater...
Michigan with the freshman buzzer beater...
Crazy end to the game. Feel bad for the Houston player who missed both those free throws with less than 4 seconds left.
I know you not specifically pointing in my direction ..... but you tell me, considering you are the most detailed stat person here, who would you choose from the pool of choices from lower rated conferences to replace CM? Staying pat isn't an option.
Well, staying pat is an option, and it's the most likely one Hardt is going to take.
Earl Grant has been my #1 all year and that hasn't changed. He had his team well positioned to pull off the upset and they failed to close the deal. Poor shot selection at the end, but it sounded like his guards went rogue and didn't run the play he wanted (based on the TV analyst's commentary).
Anyway, in 4 years he took the Cougars from worst to first. Conference regular season and tournament champions. (In year 3 they finished 2nd and 2nd). That's the kind of trajectory you want to see.
Earl Grant has been my #1 all year and that hasn't changed. He had his team well positioned to pull off the upset and they failed to close the deal. Poor shot selection at the end, but it sounded like his guards went rogue and didn't run the play he wanted (based on the TV analyst's commentary).
Anyway, in 4 years he took the Cougars from worst to first. Conference regular season and tournament champions. (In year 3 they finished 2nd and 2nd). That's the kind of trajectory you want to see.
Of course it is and 99% IMO will be, I just asked 2011 the question with wanting an answer that wasn't sticking with CM.
Love Grant and wish we could jump on him this year. He may end up getting the South Carolina job if Larranaga retires from UM and Frank Martin gets the UM job, as has been rumored in some circles. But he's very solid.
Excellent choice though I would consider the MW conference equal to the A10. Coaching in his genes for sure, prior NBA experience too. Though I see he got his pay increased to 1M a year and his future past Nevada would appear to be P5/6 and not mid major.
That is pretty much the exact trajectory of Mooney's first 4/5 years at Richmond, which is why it is extremely difficult to actually make a good hire. All the coaches people are ogling right now are basically Mooney in 2010/2011. He built a couple NCAA/top 25 teams with a couple very good classes, but as we have seen that is no guarantee of being able to do so consistently.
If you want to play with the big boys, make the tournament at the same rate as a P5 school, you need to pay for it. Musselman is going to be eyed by P5 schools this offseason, and that is the only type of coach Richmond should hire if they want better results than what Mooney has given us.
Like what I have looked up on him. Easier coach to get from a lower rated conference plus what UR could offer him in salary would be an be nice increase for him.
I'd settle for making the tournament at the same rate as most of our competitors in the A10.
LOL! What recent better results? No NCAA bids since 2011. You/me could accomplish that.
We already make the tournament at the same or higher rate than 9 of the 14 teams.
False.
The numbers in parentheses are tourneys made in 13 years, then tourneys made in past 7 years. Brackets are appearances/years in A10.
- URI (2,2)
- St. B (2,2)
- Davidson (7,4) [2/4 A10]
- St. Joes (3,2)
- VCU (9,6) [5/6 A10]
- St. Louis (3,3)
- GMU (3,0) [0/5 A10]
- UR (2,0)
- Dayton (5,4)
- Duquesne (0,0)
- GW (3,1)
- LaSalle (1,1)
- UMass (1,1)
- Fordham (0,0)
Since the new contract, only GMU, Duquesne and Fordham have sat out the dance with us.
And even that's being generous because we're excluding the teams who were our competitors in the A10 but have left:
- Temple (7, 3) [6/8 A10]
- Xavier (12, 6) [7/8 A10]
- Butler (10, 5) [1/1 A10]
Here is how many teams have made the tournament the same or fewer times than us in the past x years (including us):
1: 11
2: 9
3: 8
4: 7
5: 5
6: 4
7: 4
8: 8
9: 10
10: 10
11: 9
12: 9
13: 7
Since Mooney has been here half the current A10 teams have been to the NCAAs more than him. That is pretty much the definition of average A10 performance. If you consider his performance after rebuilding, the past 10 or 11 years, we have been more than most A10 teams. Out of the 13 possible ranges you can pick, only 3 of them generate a below average rate of NCAA appearances.
Yes, hopefully the FMM is motivating Mooney, just like the Fire Brownell guys motivated him. Hate that we have a guy that needs so much motivation and making 1 mil + but so be it. Keep hearing the noise baby Mooney and go get to the dance next year. Hope that helps motivate him since doesn't seem to have it on his own.
But many here have been talking about mooney needing to be canned for three years now.
Me too in that group but so much negativity here ..... so if next season ends bad don't want CNN to report that we had something to do with it. Rumor has it posters here have influence on the level of play on the court.
FIFY
There is already a three page thread on our expectations for next year. If we all expected the same thing, it wouldn't be that long.
Wait, so if we fire our coach, all of our players leave and we hire some middling coach and continue to be mediocre.
Whereas, if another program fires there coach, "poof", there back.
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