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Its interesting that people believe in personal responsibility that much that they would (in theory) sacrifice their life to demonstrate that individuals must suffer for their bad decisions. Fact of the mater is that if someone collapsed right outside my door (god forbid) , it may not be up to them if they receive care. It might not be up to them if they get billed or if their family gets billed or if society gets billed, someone will get billed.Originally posted by Spiders05:
Wearing a seatbelt should be my choice. If I want to be a moron and not wear one, then I'm hurting myself. I don't need the government to protect me from hurting myself. If others choose not to, then so be it. They're not hurting me any.
You've convinced me.Originally posted by WebSpinner:
my roomie at UR, when health insurance was in its infancy, told me his dad, an MD, took apple butter and other products as payment. you would see the cost of our healthcare go down very quickly that way.
There are no death panels. Previous versions of the law allowed Medicare to reimburse physicians to voluntary discuss with patients about end-of-life planning. Those provisions were scrapped when people like Sarah Palin said this was the same as allowing the government to decide if patients lived or died. Try reading the law, or go to a source like the Henry J Kaiser Family Foundation for a synopsis. Honestly, I blame the current administration for not doing a better job selling the law. The amount of misinformation, speculation, and ignorance is regrettable considering this exists amongst the people who most benefit from the law.Originally posted by bscoper:
Death panels
Guaranteed Issue goes right along with the 2014 Health Insurance mandate. If insurers now have to write policies ,regardless of medical history, and healthy people are not required to purchase health insurance, then you have what is know as the insurance death spiral.Originally posted by MolivaManiac:
Back to the questions I posed above. See 'Guaranteed Issue' and 'Rate Restrictions' at the Kaiser link. Can someone explain to me how or why that will work? I'm willing to be convinced.
Mitt Romney realized this, and that is why he supported an insurance mandate when he passed universal health care with guaranteed issue in Massachusetts
Originally posted by Anachnoid:
And Rick, I have three in your age group, two grads.
Anach, you are obviously a good parent who hs raised his children the right way and showed them the way to a successful life. Maybe you have the means to get them through college, or maybe they did it on their own. Regardless, you and yours should be commended for a job well done. Not all of us are so fortunate, however. My ex took our four very young kids and ran away with her boyfriend. The courts are very biased towards the mother having custody, and even though I was a police officer I tried but couldn't get them. Finally, years later when their crack-addicted mother was locked up, I was finally given custody of four out of control drug using teenagers, the oldest a high school dropout, the other three not going to school. It was a very difficult time in my life, but fortunately things turned around. The high school dropout got his GED, became a highly decorated Iraq War veteran, and is now a police officer (and college student) in Louisiana. My oldest daughter (the 22 year old) put herself through 2 years of college and moved to Colorado to get away from her mother. She is an aspiring model who struggles financially but is taking care of herself. My two 20-year-olds graduated high school and are taking care of themselves (one is an asst manager at McDonalds and one has a small housekeeping business while raising a child on her own).
I don't know why I went so far off topic, but my point is, three of my kids can't afford healthcare right now, and certainly can't afford to pay a tax because they can't afford healthcare. Count your blessings, my friend (and take a bow for good parenting).
According to the non-partisan Massachusetts Taxpayers Foundation, Mitt Romney's health care reform achieved nearly universal health care with modest additional costs to tax payers.Originally posted by MolivaManiac:
The basic premise of Medicare and Medicaid is to prevent 'Insurance Death Spiral' for carriers. Those are managed by the Federal government. How are they doing?
How is job creation in Massachusetts?
What other private industries does the Federal Government force to serve all potential customers?