NCAA Coaching Carousel
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Reading how little tolerance some schools have for lower performance, not meeting expectations, not making NCAA tourney often enough, it makes me wonder how low UR's standards are. If a coach at schools with reasonable expectations don't perform then they are shown the door. Then it makes me wonder if we really have any standards or expectations other than one. And that one is extensions.
Xavier having a coach leave them twice...oof. Miller been succesful enough I guess minus the end at Zona but yeah idk about his fit at Texas.
Kinda surprised Hovde took the Columbia job. Florida has a great chance to make final four and possibly win it all. Hovde stays around for that and next year I think his name comes up even more with better jobs.
If Florida wins - is that the closest UR connection to a National Title in mens hoops? Hovde played and coached at UR, then wins a title at Florida. I know we have UCONN transfer on our team this year, but I don't count that since he didn't start with UR.
Also of note - Carllin Hartman, former UR assistant, also on the staff on Florida.
If Florida wins - is that the closest UR connection to a National Title in mens hoops? Hovde played and coached at UR, then wins a title at Florida. I know we have UCONN transfer on our team this year, but I don't count that since he didn't start with UR.
Also of note - Carllin Hartman, former UR assistant, also on the staff on Florida.
I know the Title 9 investigation into the HC was dropped at Florida. My understanding is that is just an investigation specific to Title 9. Just curious if any of these potential girls attorneys waiting to drop a bomb at final 4 week? Hoping this was all fabricated, and if so the girls get prosecuted. But if this really happened, seems like there could be civil suits or criminal investigations ongoing.
Odom to UVA - I know old news. But interesting tidbit from ESPN article, not sure if mentioned here already.
"VCU looms as perhaps the best basketball job outside the power conferences, as it projects to have, by far, the most money for NIL and revenue share in the Atlantic 10."
I can see VCU being the best job in the A10, but the best or one of the best outside the Power leagues - that is high high praise.
"VCU looms as perhaps the best basketball job outside the power conferences, as it projects to have, by far, the most money for NIL and revenue share in the Atlantic 10."
I can see VCU being the best job in the A10, but the best or one of the best outside the Power leagues - that is high high praise.
I read that as the best open job outside the power conferences. Not the best job period, which is of course crazy.
If they are getting Pitino and WVU and Villanova both want him too, I'll be impressed. And I will assume they have convinced him they have at least as much or more money to spend on NIL than those two schools, which would be surprising.
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I thought you guys turned down Pitino to get Few…
(Side note autocorrect tried to change Pitino to Putin)
Just have to think we’ll see some turnover in Richmond coaches with Geriot Chu & Hovde w new staffs. Guessing Smitty to Iona.
I’d like McGeehan back here myself as asst. but maybe fits better as vet asst to 1 of the new guys idk. Minimal success at Campbell but hard job. I like him. He has much better court & ppl personality than Mooney imo.
I’d like McGeehan back here myself as asst. but maybe fits better as vet asst to 1 of the new guys idk. Minimal success at Campbell but hard job. I like him. He has much better court & ppl personality than Mooney imo.
No thanks. Mooney does need to recycle his previous assistants. Bring someone in who has extensive recruiting chops, or knows a different offensive philosophy than we do, or hell a guy who knows how to coach rebounding. Not a recycle.
Oh believe me I’d prefer that. But I had already dismissed as an actual possibility.
Gotcha. Maybe this is the big change we are going to do to show we are serious about competing. General Manager McGeehan. Would be the perfect hire for Moon, as it would be one more person who has complete loyalty to him.
Agree. It’s the Mooney show, and it’ll stay as long as he’s here. His coaching philosophy and system regardless of liabilities and failures. Don’t think any new blood on staff would convince to change things up. Hey - if it ain’t working then just keep on doing the same.
Very true. Our program is like the Borg on Star Trek, once anyone gets here they too will be assimilated.
Boyden came in with some different defensive ideas and they worked pretty well in his first couple of seasons and then boom last year, we are back to Mooney's classic switching all of the time defense. Boyden has been assimilated, he is now Borg.
Assume the same works for our marketing department, if they start out spelling shit right all of the time, not making factual errors, just give them a couple years at UR athletics and bam they forget how to proofread and use spell check.
btw I expect Ali Farokhmanesh (big moment in NCAA for UNI) to get CSU job now that Medved to Minnesota. He was on my list. I do have some assistants on my list - tho majority are HCs - but he's very good imo. Probably not an East Coast guy tho so was always unlikely. But he's due.
So we schedule a home and home with Columbia and Hovde becomes 2027-28 Spider head coach. Going to Columbia appears to me not having ultimate desire to be a power whatever coach. If so could have an improvement with Spider's next for life coach? Hang in the @whampas like me, we will see someone beyond Mooney. 🙏
We could do worse than Hovde. He only spent 1 year under Mooney here and many more under Golden, hopefully Golden rubbed off on him more than Mooney did.
I fear Hovde took a coach killer job.
Compare Columbia to the High Point job Alan Huss took right after they built a new arena. That program was set up for success with an in-conference competitive advantage. He'll do well and have opportunities.
When it comes to the pool of players considering Ivies ... Princeton, Yale and Harvard get the pick of the litter. It'll be tough for Hovde to do well enough to move up. If he has one realy good year, he should should strike while the iron is hot. I think more likely he does well enought to stay there a long time.
Compare Columbia to the High Point job Alan Huss took right after they built a new arena. That program was set up for success with an in-conference competitive advantage. He'll do well and have opportunities.
When it comes to the pool of players considering Ivies ... Princeton, Yale and Harvard get the pick of the litter. It'll be tough for Hovde to do well enough to move up. If he has one realy good year, he should should strike while the iron is hot. I think more likely he does well enought to stay there a long time.
Well, the guy he assisted under at Columbia a decade ago is currently coaching at Stanford, so there's certainly a potential pathway to the big time from there.
I see Columbia and VMI as similar, the industry understands the restrictions and views the performance accordingly.
The only positive I see with Columbia and the Ivy league at this point is that their schools do not setup collectives and they have opted out of the NCAA settlement to pay athletes. So I see the Ivy league sticking strong to this and while they will allow their athletes to make money outside of the school through NIL, they will not pay them directly or have collectives do it for them. That could be a situation some coaches look for to escape the craziness of the NIL world. Not to mention - most kids going to Ivy league schools, even to play sports, are not going pro or looking to go pro.
I agree - this is not a job that I think allows him to climb the ladder quickly, but could be a job where you can coach there with limited success for a long time.
I agree - this is not a job that I think allows him to climb the ladder quickly, but could be a job where you can coach there with limited success for a long time.
good example. looking at Kyle Smith's coaching career, he spent 6 years at Columbia and was 37-47 in conference.
overall with weak OOC schedules he did finish 19 games over .500 ... but 15 of those games over .500 came in his final year there.
that was his shot and he took it. jumped into the San Fran job, then Washington State, now Stanford.
that's my advice to Hovde. he's got to catch lightning in a bottle once. parlay that into a job with more upside.
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