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[97spiderfan]

Random thought since folks keep talking about meeting with Hallock, which I know is facetious.

Would Hardt/Hallock take a meeting with season tickets holders, ex-season ticket holders, alumni about MBB? What if we banded together and presented him and Hallock with a factual look (from our vantage point) of the program. We discuss all of the facts on ad nasuem, what if they were put in a letter, requesting a meeting. Would they just ignore the letter, give us some type of form letter response, or might they hear us out?

Just asking.

 

[urfan1]

If there was a large enough group to have impact, and they respectfully requested an opportunity to explain why they have not given money, bought tickets, etc for extended period of time. They mat well get an audience, especially if agree will make gift for opportunity to be heard.

 

[spider23]

PQ says no. Take your piddling ticket contributions and get out of our face. You guys want to meet, how about give Moon half a mil each for NIL, then see what my boy could do.

 

[mojo-spider]

I think he was through 2027 when he got last year's extension which was reportedly 2 more years, so 2029?

Sigh! And I thought I could out last him. SMH…

Go Spiders!

 

[whampas]

Sigh! And I thought I could out last him. SMH…

Go Spiders!

Ha, HOPE, it does give you a reason to hang on, exercise, eat right and say your prayers at night. Thanks Mojo.

 

[97spiderfan]

If there was a large enough group to have impact, and they respectfully requested an opportunity to explain why they have not given money, bought tickets, etc for extended period of time. They mat well get an audience, especially if agree will make gift for opportunity to be heard.

Thanks Fan1, I'm a season ticket holder so I doubt they will miss that from me. Other's may have more clout/financial resources to make an impact. No offense, but I'm not giving them $$$ for a meeting.

 

[SpiderGuy]

Let's assume for a second that Hardt is not an entirely clueless maroon and that when he gave this extension, he also included a very favorable buyout clause and/or conditions that would cause the extension to fully vest only if performance standards are met, like say, winning more than eight D1 games a season.

Considering there was literally no reason to give an extension last year, I'd say this is a completely reasonable expectation. In that case, another bad season next year could be it.

I have no confidence in Hardt. Bad decision on last extension. Buyout clause or not, I’d be shocked if CM doesn’t last AT LEAST 4 more years. Not a good feel here. Odds of making another NCAA appearance in those 4 years. Maybe as in striking distance of the norm of 6 and 1/3.

 

[SpiderRick]

If there was a large enough group to have impact, and they respectfully requested an opportunity to explain why they have not given money, bought tickets, etc for extended period of time. They mat well get an audience, especially if agree will make gift for opportunity to be heard.

So you're saying that we have to pay to get an audience? What, are we seeing the King?

 

[MrTbone]

So you're saying that we have to pay to get an audience? What, are we seeing the King?

Do you know a lot of CEOs who have an open door policy to come in and complain about their product? That’s in essence what you’re suggesting…

 

[urfan1]

Go back and read the post i responded to.

 

[8legs1dream]

So you're saying that we have to pay to get an audience? What, are we seeing the King?

he's more than a simple king

 

[SpiderRick]

Do you know a lot of CEOs who have an open door policy to come in and complain about their product? That’s in essence what you’re suggesting…

Well I wasn't suggesting anything. I was just responding to "make gift for an opportunity to be heard".

A billboard is probably cheaper than that anyway...

 

[MrTbone]

Well I wasn't suggesting anything. I was just responding to "make gift for an opportunity to be heard".

A billboard is probably cheaper than that anyway...

Yeah, but also less effective. Perhaps even “anti-effective.”

 

[kneepadmckinney]

Well this is interesting... check out the name of the most likely replacement...

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-b...a-fires-coach-tobin-anderson-just-two-seasons

 

[urmite]

Well this is interesting... check out the name of the most likely replacement...

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-b...a-fires-coach-tobin-anderson-just-two-seasons

I thought we already saw that?
And I thought your link was going to be a real shocker…Mooney!

 

[kneepadmckinney]

I thought we already saw that?
And I thought your link was going to be a real shocker…Mooney!

Sorry -- I must have missed it posted elsewhere

 

[Gallipoli]

Four. His extension after the 2022 tourney was through 2027, and then they extended him again after last season. Term was not announced, but JOC said according to sources it was two more years, so 2029.

So he has 4 more seasons? Has UR ever dismissed a coach who is still under contract?

 

[Eight Legger]

Only one who got drunk and pulled over.

 

[Gallipoli]

Only one who got drunk and pulled over.

Latrelle Scott? I thought he resigned voluntarily. And there was no other?

 

[MrTbone]

Latrelle Scott? I thought he resigned voluntarily. And there was no other?

We are not in the habit of firing coaches under contract. There are limited examples and almost none in the revenue generating sports.

 

[8legs1dream]

We dont fire coaches under contract and we dont stop extending Mooney. This is the way.

#DecadesOfMooney

 

[SpiderGuy]

We dont fire coaches under contract and we dont stop extending Mooney. This is the way.

#DecadesOfMooney

Kind of funny in that at an institution of higher learning our “decision makers” don’t ever learn.

 

[Eight Legger]

Latrelle Scott? I thought he resigned voluntarily. And there was no other?

Sure, he "voluntarily" resigned. That's it. Also, he definitely didn't ever have a sidepiece attending other UR sporting events with him.

 

[SFspidur]

Ed DeChellis retiring after 29 years as a head coach, the last 14 at Navy.

 

[Gallipoli]

We dont fire coaches under contract.

#DecadesOfMooney

Good contracts make good relationships.

 

[SFspidur]

Mooney, Greenberg, and Enfield on Chu heading to Radford...

Mooney had recommended Chu get into coaching when Chu played for the Spiders.

“He’s very impressive and he’s very bright and a great communicator, so I thought he would have a chance to be successful in anything. … I thought he could really do very well in coaching,” Mooney said.

Mooney said Chu is ready to be a head coach.

“Because everything has evolved so fast and so dramatically (in college basketball) in the past three years, I think he is ready,” Mooney said. “When you’re in the NBA, while that is a different experience than college, it’s basketball 365.”

Mooney has discussed analytics with Chu.

“If somebody says, ‘Well, you guys made 31% of your shots from that area of the floor at this time in the game,’ that doesn’t mean anything. But he can give you the reasons why it does mean something … and how you can improve upon that,” Mooney said. “He takes the analytics and he can make things applicable and practical in the way he describes it.”

SMU coach Enfield says Chu 'home-run' hire for Radford

Andy Enfield, Seth Greenberg and Chris Mooney had high praise for the new Radford coach.

roanoke.com

 

[SpiderTrap]

I believe the years on the contract a few years ago and amount owed to Mooney if fired was a barrier to making that decision. And that barrier has probably only gotten larger as I don't expect the buyout to be any less. I think it is safe to assume his buyout or amount owed if fired would be the remainder of his contract. BUT - now also add in the 1, 2 or 3 million dollars the University must set aside for the NIL Payments/i.e payments straight to players.

SO - give that, I have a hard time believing even after next year, assuming we have another bad year - that the school would be willing to pay Mooney a couple million to NOT coach UR, and then also have to pay a new coach, likely at least 750K or more, and then continue to get 1,2,3 million (whatever the amount is because the school will not say)

One name to look out for on this carousel is Hovde at Florida. If Florida makes a run to the final four, like many experts think they will do - I wonder if his name comes up for jobs either this year or next year.

I like the Chu hire at Radford. Its a gamble for sure as he is mostly an analytics guy it seems, but I think that is something underutilized in college hoops at this point and maybe something Radford can exploit for some quick success.