Mens - FGCU @ RC - Sat 12/28 6pm ESPN
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Hallock goes to every game and stays for the whole thing. He goes to a ton of UR sporting events, id put his attendance up there against just about anyone’s.
I don’t think he’s oblivious to what’s going on, but we’ve never had a culture of “success at any cost”. I doubt he’s going to suddenly change that mindset on his own.
Hopefully we at least want to have a culture of success.
I’m far from a bball pro but was trying to dissect what we were doing on D and I guess we’re back to the switching man defense? There were a ton of handoffs I saw and there were many a gruesome matchup issues as a result.
It begs the question, why? If the coaches are trying to offset/hide some man to man defensive deficiency with this approach, I have news, it’s not working. I think it’s making us worse. And we’re not particularly good at it.
Maybe someone with more bball acumen can explain what’s happening. I don’t get it.
I think Hallock does, he’s definitely a strong supporter of athletics.
Being a supporter and being able to impact a change of culture are separate concepts. Not sure Hallock is empowered to change culture over the usual culprits that seem to run the university and athletics dept…especially our men’s basketball program. Is it not apparent that changes are needed, and it’s systemic? But next year and for years to come we’ll be saying the same things.
That's part of the problem, the idea that mooneyites think a coach more successful than Mooney has to be an "at all cost" type of guy. This is such a false narrative. We see plenty of successful coaches that also run clean programs. Just one of the excuses why we can't get rid of him.
Yep, it's crazy. It's another one of the ideas on mooniocrity. You can't be fluid and rebound and play defense, or do any other part of the game that has been proven to be advantageouover the years. Just like someone pointed out about catching the ball and ready to attack. We catch and look for next pass 30 feet from the hoop.
Yeah, totally agree, hence why I didn’t make any statement to the effect that his appreciation for athletics will translate to a change in direction. I think overall UR fares reasonably well in sports, so there’s probably not a ton of motivation to react to bball being a turd in a birdbath this year.
Oh I agree, but they aren’t willing to terminate a contract over it and they are willing to keep extending which continues the cycle.
Here's a quick story some of you (most of you) will find quite fitting. I don't get to watch the games live much anymore. Thrilled they're on ESPN+ so i can watch the replay. Unfortunately, caught the thumbnail from the YouTube postgame presser (check it out if you haven't seen it) and figured we put in a good performance and won.... since he was clearly pleased. Kept wondering when the comeback was gonna start.
The best part of the game tonight was the halftime show.
The best part of the game tonight was the halftime show.
I listen to these postgame clips and it sadly sounds like a guy who has no answers.
Asked the question “what things do you need to work on” his answer was “shooting” and then “team defense”. I have lost count of how many times the team needs to shoot better but that second answer strikes me as so nonspecific as to be comical. It suggests that guys are individually playing ok defense (wrong), or that they aren’t helping each other out (also wrong).
He also seemed to kind of double down on the notion that we just need to improve a bit on some flaws to be better. We are so bad that it’s not as if some incremental improvements are going to start winning us games. We just lost by 18 to a 4-8 ASUN team at home.
I guess that’s the plan though. Nothing can go wrong now.
I'm gonna double down on the notion of perhaps going zone at this point. I dont really understand the resistance. I specifically don't understand the lack of variety even for the sake of just trying something different. We finally did press tonight on a positive note. It had the same effectiveness as GWIII's minutes.
There was a sequence late in the second half where D-Lo was getting posted up and got beat and the help defense .... once the guy beat him.... was Tyne. There was no one else within twenty feet of either of them. Something's very wrong with that.
I think both Walz and AP are good shot blockers and rebounders. It does no good when they're extended out to the perimeter by good schemes isolating our small guards.
We also played Dusan and AP together tonight for what seemed like a fleeting two minutes. This should most certainly happen more, but I am SURE that within whatever fixed rotation exists where he plugs in a 2 for a 2 and a 3 for a 3 etc. they're on opposite sides... which would also explain why the notion of playing Beagle/Walz/Soulis etc. in some combination together at some point this year hasn't exactly materialized.
Soulis didn't look incapable in his two minutes. Stick him in there to be a rim protector if nothing else. He's the tallest guy we have.
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The claims about our recruits and transfers is they can really shoot. They get here and they not only can’t shoot they get worse the longer they are in the program. There is a hint there. I can remember watching Beilien working with players on their shot, it’s hard to believe Mooney ever does and in the portal world it really may not help.
Boarding the 6:30 Charlotte flight — the entire FGCU team is on the plane (and at the back of the bus). Maybe we should try flying commercial also — mix things up a little.
That should be a new Rothsteinism - losing a buy game to a team that few commercial - the epitome of brutality.
Hallock's only contribution to athletics so far has been to force the hasty and disastrous move to the Patriot League for football.
A few thoughts from the game:
- Beagle needs some training sessions from TJ on how to operate in the paint, I remember TJ with those quick decisive moves, often not even dribbling the ball at all, Beagle creates trouble for himself over and over with his slow developing array of moves and dribbles
- the 3 short guard thing - Mooney ran it for long stretches in the 2nd half and FGCU abused us for it
- Neskovic continues to be our clear #1 option on offense
- they beat us by more than they beat Florida Tech by last week...
Painful to watch, more of the same, no hope for soul searching or drastic changes to come by those in charge....
- Beagle needs some training sessions from TJ on how to operate in the paint, I remember TJ with those quick decisive moves, often not even dribbling the ball at all, Beagle creates trouble for himself over and over with his slow developing array of moves and dribbles
- the 3 short guard thing - Mooney ran it for long stretches in the 2nd half and FGCU abused us for it
- Neskovic continues to be our clear #1 option on offense
- they beat us by more than they beat Florida Tech by last week...
Painful to watch, more of the same, no hope for soul searching or drastic changes to come by those in charge....
You can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. This years players are not very good.
What D-1 , A10 team shoots 30%.
Mooney’s fault- I think not. But we are all sad what this season is going to be like.
What D-1 , A10 team shoots 30%.
Mooney’s fault- I think not. But we are all sad what this season is going to be like.
He recruited the players, he evaluated them publicly as the best shooting team he has ever had.
Currently at 29% from 3 as a team.
If his statement is true, why are the results so poor? If he's so wildly off in his judgment of players and his own team as a whole, it's just sad.
Currently at 29% from 3 as a team.
If his statement is true, why are the results so poor? If he's so wildly off in his judgment of players and his own team as a whole, it's just sad.
This is also not a new problem. We have not been a consistently good 3pt team, for much of CMs history. Over the past 8 seasons including this year, we are all over the place between 29% and 37%. We had two years where we were top50, but have had just as many seasons over 200 and this season we are one of the worst in the country at 336.
I don’t know how you build much continuity as a 3pt oriented team when you aren’t consistently at least average to good from 3.
It’s befuddling.
Hallock and Hardt (along with wives) were at the Women’s game today sitting safely ensconced among red sweater Mooneyites. No disgruntled fan would approach him there.
8legs1dream
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New basketball program official motto? Or is this going to be placed on a banner to be raised at some point this season?
Like a bright light shining on a garbage dump, so are the days of our Spiders.
1. Agree.
2. Agree.
3. Richmond and UMASS are the only A-10 teams below 30% from 3.
4. This roster is 100% Mooney's fault. He brought the transfers in, he missed on recruits the past few years, and he brought in no freshmen this year who could help right away.
5. This could be the 1st year ever, as in my 50 some years of following us, that I go into the conference tourney with no hope of us winning it.
6. Let's see how we do in the portal next year and also see if any of our recruits can make an impact right away. You can make a quick turnaround from bad to good these days, so I still have hope we can fix this next year.
For me, there was very little hope in the Dooley years, and maybe Mooney’s first two.
have u looked at Mooney's A10 tourney record....he's often out very early. how many semifinals has he even made? 3 or 4 I think. SF would probably know. I remember 3. back to back years in AC, 2 finals 1 win, then 2022. Maybe there was 1 more semi in there.
Anyone is entitled to their hope it's just not very justified. u have to separate from ability of team.
8legs1dream
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2006 -- first round loss
2007 -- first round loss
2008 -- first round bye, second round loss
2009 -- first round win, second round loss
2010 -- first round bye, won second round and semifinals, lost in the final
2011 -- first round bye, won second round, semifinals, and finals
2012 -- first round loss
2013 -- first round loss
2014 -- weird tournament year with a one game "first round" that we technically had a bye for, second round win, quarterfinal loss
2015 -- first and second round bye, lost in quarterfinals
2016 -- first round bye, second round win, quarterfinals loss
2017 -- first and second round bye, quarterfinals win, semifinals loss
2018 -- first round bye, second round win, quarterfinals loss
2019 -- first round win, second round loss
2020 -- NCAA Division I National Championship, Men's Basketball
2021 -- first round bye, second round loss
2022 -- first round bye, won second round, quarterfinals, semifinals, and finals
2023 -- first round win, second round loss
2024 -- first and second round bye, lost in quarterfinals
2025 -- the future is unwritten
thanks. so 4 semifinals total. I thought 4 but I forgot 2017 to VCU. I don't know how because I was there too. Painful. Same as the quarterfinal loss in 2015 at Barclays. when VCU went on to win it. at least at PPG we had some fans there, at Barclays it was basically none.
Anyway we could never expect a different coach to exceed these results. Not at little ol' Richmond.
4 semifinals or better appearances in 19 years, wow. I mean, wow. Between yearly flame outs in the OOC and this A10 tourney snapshot of sadness, shows why so few NCAA bids. Never positioned well going into the league, never make a run to force the way into the conversation late. I'm unsure who can defend the systems in place (especially on offense), they're not designed to consistently win big-time. This is a 20 year sample!!!
I was also at PPG and had forgotten about that being a semis. Khwan Fore's steal to seal the GW game the prior game was what got UR there. Guy drilled a really tough 3 to put VCU ahead, though the final look UR got with SDJ was not ideal IMO, Cline has to get the ball somehow (but didn't.)
I was also at PPG and had forgotten about that being a semis. Khwan Fore's steal to seal the GW game the prior game was what got UR there. Guy drilled a really tough 3 to put VCU ahead, though the final look UR got with SDJ was not ideal IMO, Cline has to get the ball somehow (but didn't.)
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