No doubt Mooney bears the lion's share of the responsibility, and i'm plenty critical of him as well.
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I agree, but I am not gonna go too crazy about Tanner's comments. While I can agree that it sounded pretty bad, losing a lot will lead to a lot of comments like that heading into the new year. It is always convenient to say we need to be more focused or more committed, or more serious and all that instead of what was obviously a bad roster with not a lot of athleticism and talent.
There’s still so much talk about it taking guys who have been here a year “time to learn the system”.
We are literally dinosaurs if we can’t modify how we play to take advantage of guys in their first year here.
We are literally dinosaurs if we can’t modify how we play to take advantage of guys in their first year here.
Yep the ingrained mind set is very hard to overcome. Regime change seems to be the only option for a full reboot.
I wonder if it's more "time to hopefully improve a lot" than just "learn the system". We have played plenty of freshmen good minutes. Tyler, Jacob, Goose, Nick, and Buck being the most recent. They did not need to wait to "learn the system". Which is probably the main issue. Since Tyler, we have recruited poorly, so it could be more a lack of talent issue than a learn the system issue.
You whiners, like 23 and Gospidersgo , don’t even even know the AD’s name is not Hunt.
I’ll be sure to follow you.
I’ll be sure to follow you.
You make valid points, but some guys are still learning as they play. OK, but cannot have many of those on floor at once and it also works best if you have that "floor general".
Uh, they were talking about DeLonnie Hunt, not John Hardt.
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Unfortunately I'm up 8 pounds from roster weight last year too.
Really hoping Robinson can be that physical freak that impacts the game in many ways. Just looking at his highlights from 2 years ago - he seems to be a Kevin Smith, Burton, Darrius Garret type of athlete. Really would have loved for him to get minutes last year to get up to speed. If the extra 15 pounds is good weight - and I'm assuming it is - he could be a real impact player possibly. Still can't believe we couldn't find him 10 minutes a game last year. Took a look at the thread from last season on the secret scrimmage (yes the one where I was attacked for questioning the product - and again ding ding ding ding - I was right
. But back to Robinson, two different posters watching him in preseason provided very positive feedback. But of course Mooney liked his one dimensional shooters that actually struggled to shoot in game settings.
I decided to stare at our roster again today.
we have 9 upper classmen who are all good and who all will play. you really don't need to go more than 9 deep, but we'll have to find time for Robinson and McGlothin who already sat a year. so that's 11.
barring injuries ... and I know we hate the redshirt concept ... I just don't see how Argabright, Harper, Richardson and Homenick see the floor this year. and that's going to happen to freshmen every year when you constantly bring in 4 upperclass transfers.
I want to do what's best for the team AND for the players. but I want to be smart about it too. freshmen ... it's an open competition. best guys play. but if you're not in the rotation on day one we're going to hold you out. we're not going to give you a couple of garbage time minutes. and if we get through the bulk of the season without using you, we'll offer a redshirt to save a year of your eligibility. but if someone above you gets hurt or underperforms and we think you can help, we're buring that shirt.
we have 9 upper classmen who are all good and who all will play. you really don't need to go more than 9 deep, but we'll have to find time for Robinson and McGlothin who already sat a year. so that's 11.
barring injuries ... and I know we hate the redshirt concept ... I just don't see how Argabright, Harper, Richardson and Homenick see the floor this year. and that's going to happen to freshmen every year when you constantly bring in 4 upperclass transfers.
I want to do what's best for the team AND for the players. but I want to be smart about it too. freshmen ... it's an open competition. best guys play. but if you're not in the rotation on day one we're going to hold you out. we're not going to give you a couple of garbage time minutes. and if we get through the bulk of the season without using you, we'll offer a redshirt to save a year of your eligibility. but if someone above you gets hurt or underperforms and we think you can help, we're buring that shirt.
9 upper classmen who are all good? Well, 5 of them played for our 8 D1 wins team last year, so my question would be how good would you call them? We should be able to get some freshmen in here who are good enough to beat out guys who "led" us to 8 wins last year instead of just assuming they will likely redshirt.
I can't give our staff a recruiting pass about freshmen not playing because of the transfer portal. Especially after last year's 8 win team. Bigs are harder to recruit and land based on numbers, so I won't get on the staff for not finding one to beat out Walz and Beagle. So, it certainly look like they will share 40 minutes. But the other 3 guys returning? Why should they be penciled into the rotation? Tyne, AP, and Tanner averaged 31.5, 26.6, and 17.2 mpg last year, and the result for all those minutes was only 9.3, 5.4, and 3.6 ppg. And they only shot 27.1%, 25.9%, and 29.8% from 3. We brought 4 freshmen in this year. Seems like asking for at least one to maybe beat out one of these guys and give us better production there should not be too much to ask. It's been since Tyler in 2020 since we have had a solid looking freshman out there. We have to recruit better, and if none of the freshmen get minutes, expect to hear the same frustration this year that I showed with Robinson and McGlothin not playing last year.
times have changed with how the portal is used. Tyler got 14 mpg and scored 4.6 ppg freshman year. that's something to build on. but we didn't bring in any transfers when he was a freshman. if he was a freshman today and we brought in 4 upper class transfers his 1st year ... plus we carry 15 on scholarship? I'm betting he doesn't play much if at all.
we don't have a top 100 type freshman joining the team. Robinson and McGlothin have a year in the program and will get a shot. but expecting our true freshmen to beat out the upperclassmen is a longshot.
we don't have a top 100 type freshman joining the team. Robinson and McGlothin have a year in the program and will get a shot. but expecting our true freshmen to beat out the upperclassmen is a longshot.
i can't imagine watching Moon for 20 years & thinking we'll go 11 deep
If we’re getting into the habit of redshirting freshmen every year that does not bode well for the program long term. It’s not good for recruiting with trying to get great players to come here who see that we are redshirting all the freshmen their first year. It’s not good for program consistency if we have to get 3-4 upper class transfers every year and hope they’re good, and now looks like we will be scheduling poorly to artificially boost wins.
I completely understand that this era now will involve transfers coming in and out. But the transfers should be plugging in specific needs. Look at our women’s team. We have 2 senior starters in Ullstrom and Doogan, a junior starter in Sweeney. Sophomore in Newell who will get significant playing time, and every year there is at least 1 freshmen who plays. There is balance every year and then in the off season we find 2-3 transfers to complement the team and fit the roles we need. Like this year getting players with more height and offensive rebound ability. Mooney talks about wanting players to stay all 4 years but the last few years, he has not brought in enough talented players from high school to fit that model.
It starts with freshmen and we just can’t be missing as much as we have with bringing in talented players who contribute as freshmen. We have 6 freshmen/redshirt freshmen now. If we don’t have at least 2 contributing meaningfully in some way this year after a 8 D1 win season last year, that is a problem.
Feels like Tyne needs to take a big step forward this year or else we are toast. He and Argabright are the only true point guards on the roster. We have no shortage of SGs/wings, and I think a few of them will be good, but we know that a Mooney team without a true alpha PG is no good.
Me either. But with the stellar OOC schedule for the second year, the Spiders will likely be in everybody plays mode again before A10 play starts. Last year, most OOC games had 10 in the box score. There were 3 games with 9 and the last game versus FGCU with 12.
Wash, rinse, repeat. /s
I agree with both sman and 4700 here. It is tougher for true freshman to play since portal and NIL proliferation. Heck, Rutgers had two TOP FIVE NBA draft picks and was mediocre. But also, we are not returning great players. I am hopeful both the Redshirts are good enough to beat out returning players. Maybe one of the freshman can be a contributor. Really think that has to be the case for us to be much better.
I think Johnston is going to be a lead guard. Really looks the part, and I think good assist numbers at LMU? I think he will be on the ball a lot.
We had a very talented roster when Tyler was a freshman. U don't think a freshman Tyler could beat out Tanner or AP??
I'm not asking for a top 100 guy. I'm asking for at least one of four freshman to beat out Tyne, Tanner, or AP. And, hopefully, McGlothin and/or Robinson are already ahead of them, although I have no clue what to think after they couldn't beat them out last year. Do I expect a true freshmen will beat them out? Based on our recent recruiting and freshmen playing time history, no, and If they don't, to me that is a continuing recruiting issue, not a transfer portal/numbers issue.
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Hate to be negative, but I don't think Tyne just magically becomes a good shooter. I see no step forward from him and think we are toast if he gets close to the 31+ mpg he got last year. It's not like he is a 3rd year guy who has steadily improved and is a ready for bigger minutes type of guy. He has played a lot of minutes and shot (and missed) a lot of 3s here. We kind of know who he is by now.
Can't Johnston play the point?
Here is what our rotation should look like if we want to be one of the top A-10 teams:
PG Johnston
G Lopez
W McGlothin
F Daughtry
BIG Walz
G Thomas
G one of the freshman
F Robinson
Back up BIG Beagle
* I am not saying this will happen. Far from it. My point is with 6 guys in here out of the last 2 recruiting years, we should have landed 3 who can beat out Tyne, Tanner, and AP, who each played good minutes on an 8 win team last year. If this happens, and McGlothin, Robinson, and a freshman are all legit, we look like a team that can be A-10 champs. If it doesn't, well, we kind of saw this movie last year. I just don't see Tyne, Tanner, or AP being key pieces on a top A-10 team. Would these guys make VCU's or Dayton's rotation? I don't think so.
PG Johnston
G Lopez
W McGlothin
F Daughtry
BIG Walz
G Thomas
G one of the freshman
F Robinson
Back up BIG Beagle
* I am not saying this will happen. Far from it. My point is with 6 guys in here out of the last 2 recruiting years, we should have landed 3 who can beat out Tyne, Tanner, and AP, who each played good minutes on an 8 win team last year. If this happens, and McGlothin, Robinson, and a freshman are all legit, we look like a team that can be A-10 champs. If it doesn't, well, we kind of saw this movie last year. I just don't see Tyne, Tanner, or AP being key pieces on a top A-10 team. Would these guys make VCU's or Dayton's rotation? I don't think so.
plugging in 4 upperclass transfers isn't good long term for the program, but it sure helps in the short term. it's just tough on the freshmen who would normally get early time.
I'd love to bring in freshmen so good that they're better than juniors and seniors. but if you do, it suggests you missed when recruiting the guys who are now juniors and seniors. maybe we did, maybe not. maybe AP and Tanner will make the jump.
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